New WTC Complex Photos Highlight Bizarre Building 7 Collapse

[scar]

New WTC Complex Photos Highlight Bizarre Building 7 Collapse
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/230806wtccomplex.htm

Buildings 5 and 6, closer to towers burned throughout but did not collapse

Previously unseen photos provided to us by an anonymous rescue worker who was at ground zero on 9/11 highlight the implausible implosion of WTC Building 7 in comparison with buildings closer to the towers that sustained significantly more fire and debris damage yet did not collapse.


Above is a map showing the relative position of the buildings in the WTC complex. Though Building 7 was hit by flying aircraft parts, it was not significantly effected by the collapse of the towers due to it being shielded by buildings 5 and 6 - which despite being closer to the towers and suffering far more extreme fires - did not collapse.


Building 7 to the right of the picture as Building 5 burns in the left background. From this image, which building seems the more likely to collapse? The 47 story behemoth with limited fire in a few floors - or a nine story shell completely engulfed by fire and flames from top to bottom? Yet it was Building 7 and not 5 that collapsed on the afternoon of September 11.


The burned out husk of Building 5 two days after 9/11. Building 5 sustained massive damage from flaming aircraft parts which ignited fires that burned for hours. In addition, the collapse of the north tower scraped down the side of 5 but its modest nine floors did not structurally collapse.


Here is a separate image revealing the extent of the fires in WTC 5. Despite raging infernos and debris gouging huge holes in the building, and in comparative size significantly more severe fires than the twin towers or Building 7 - the building stood while the other three all collapsed.


In addition, Building 6, which was even closer to the north tower (seen here moments before its subsequent planned demolition months later), suffered even more extreme fire and debris damage, but the building did not fall down implosion style like the towers and Building 7.


A wider perspective shot of the rubble of Building 7. The Fiterman Hall
building and the U.S. Post Office building across the street show little damage. Building 5 in the background is completely charred but still stands.



The rubble of WTC Building 7 lies in front of the Fiterman Hall building. The building has fallen in its own footprint - another sign of controlled demolition.



Here are a couple of shots for the no planers and 'blue screen' advocates - aircraft engine parts and a truck designated to store them. Claiming that no planes hit the WTC towers is damaging to the movement's credibility and it is one of the first things that debunkers like Popular Mechanics seize upon when building straw man hit pieces.



zip file of images here:
http://www.infowarsmedia.com/images/sept11/sept_11.zip

[scubadiver]

Interesting that this is relatively worse than the WTC towers. The damage was nowhere near as great as this.



Also, I would like to iterate once again that the "no-planes" idea is a complete load of rubbish IMO.

[Johnny Pixels]

I know I'm not allowed to post here, but this isn't really me being critical. I'm just here to show a picture. Those buildings didn't collapse in the same way WTC 7 did, but they were in no way standing in any meaningful sense of the word. Looking at aerial photos of the two, they are little more than shells with cratered insides.

Here's WTC 6. It's not completely collapsed, as in there's some walls standing, but then it's a shorter, squatter building than WTC 7:

[Andrew Johnson]

But the photo illustrates a key point.

How can such total destruction have been caused by fire alone?

If you argue against the laws of physics, JP, your posts WILL be moved. The debate has run 50 loops on the Physics forum thread to which I repeatedly refer, and will do so again.

Get used to it.

[Pikey]

One of the Trolls/shills, Johnny Pixels states:-

[doctorjaclblack]

Well done to the person who sent these pictures in. My only hope is if there are any more pictures people have, don't be intimadated by the powers that be in this world. With images like these we can all build a portfolio of evidence which can be used over time to change people's minds about what really happened, and court those people who are really responsible for this mess.

[paul wright]

These photos are off prisonplanet.com
But the main point is why are these jref guys allowed to post here anymore
It's been shown they have an aversive agenda to anything that challenges the official line on anything
That they have back connections to paedophile promotion artists and CIA MKUltra torturers
That Johnny has a Department of Defense website in his personal profile
What on earth are they doing here?
Never mind coralling them - they are purely malicious and should have been bounced long ago as Andrew said they would be well over a week ago
What's the delay? these scum are so obvious and in your face and have nothing worthwhile to offer
Let the brave face them down on their own territory by all means
They don't belong here

[blackcat]

[Johnny Pixels]

Ok I get the message, last post in this thread.

WTC 5 was a mere 9 stories high, WTC 6 a tiny 7, and both suffered partial collapse. WTC 7 had a hole in the side 20 stories high. Wonder why it collapsed?

Low rise buildings are sturdier than high rise, because they don't have the same weight above them. Imagine if WTC 6 were higher. That collapsed section in the middle there would be supporting the upper floors. Now that it is gone, what would be holding the floors up?

How am I supposed to be critical of your posts, if you never post them in the critics corner? You afraid of being shown to be wrong?

I'll just leave you with the fact that some CTists claim WTC 5 & 6 were demolished too. They claim those holes in the tops were caused by explosives. How do you go about weeding out the crazy claims from the not so crazy if you are not critical of them?

[paul wright]

Nope they didnt suffer partial collapse Johnny
That's just another lie of yours evident from the above photos
You really need to be out of here
Your assertions are nonsense
Go away - we are stronger than you and you are on the point of defeat
Last word from me
Get rid

[gordon]

Low rise buildings are sturdier than high rise, because they don't have the same weight above them.

A fact that is unlikely to have escaped the designers, who would then presumably specify that the size and shape of the support structures should reflect this?

If you want to criticise something, head back to Clueless Corner where you now have a whole website to be going on with.

Gordon.

[Pikey]

dh states:-

[Johnny Pixels]

Come and discuss this topic in the Critics Corner:

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=3419

[blackcat]

There's that pong again.

[Johnny Pixels]

[chipmunk stew]

[Johnny Pixels]

I didn't actually read this post in full before, but I see it has nothing to do with 9/11, so I too claim my right to reply.

[Pikey]

Containment of the Trolls/shills in Critics Corner was a top quality professional fair and reasonable, and innovative idea for trying to apply damage limitation to this fabulous website, without replicating the mainstream medias practice of censorship/stonewalling.

The idea was obviously based on the assumption that these Trolls/shills have respect for others. Clearly they dont as they are antagonists and have no consideration or care for fellow human beings.

Johnny Pixels has changed his photo image today. For the record it was previously a disguised combat soldier, which on an earlier thread JP advises is a actually a picture of him. He/she/they were obviously not happy with the reaction from others on this website of that image. I wonder why?

The Trolls/shills are here for the wrong reasons, their intent is to destroy the credibility of the website and to do this they use the usual establishment tactic of playing the man and not the ball.

Please moderators just ban them they have had enough chances, enough is enough.

In the absence of this IMO necessary action to protect the website, just ignore them..............DONT FEED THE TROLLS/SHILLS

I always remember the most effective tactic for dealing with the attention seeking school playground bully, just ignore them!

Peace & truth

[Pikey]

Johnny Pixels Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:24 am on this thread.

Bump

[blackcat]

The moderators should give out free clothespegs for this thread - it * stinks around here.

[stateofgrace]

As this is nothing whatsoever to do with 911 I exercise my right to reply.

This is the most appalling example of self centred, self righteous labelling of individuals I have ever seen on any forum.

It serves no purpose whatsoever other than to feed the deranged minds of those who seek to promote lies and insanity.

The truth movement will stand or fall on your ability to debate, rationalise and reason with those that don't see it your way.

This thread is a monumental failure of this cause and serves no purpose other than to stand testimony to your failure.

[blackcat]

I'm gonna need a snorkel at this rate. What a niff!

[Johnny Pixels]

[paul wright]

[chipmunk stew]

[blackcat]

For Christ's sake somebody open a window!!!