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New Pentagon Data on YOU-TUBE

 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:06 am    Post subject: New Pentagon Data on YOU-TUBE Reply with quote

All,
I`ve posted the last 4 mins if flight77 as supplied to me as computer animation by the NTSB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F3TvRwh1x0

This is black box & Radar data sourced.
Note the altitude when over the motorway AND note the angle of attack as the plane comes in.
It does NOT approach like the object visable in the CCTV footage, (ie it dives in from 180 feet not skiming along at 10 feet).

ONE of them is faked ladies and gentlemen.

I have the entire flight but only posed the last bit.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent work sir!

Perhaps it ties in with this... :
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=3404

"revealed that he ordered one of his jets to fly down low over the Pentagon shortly after the attack there that morning, and that this pilot reported back that there was no evidence that a plane had hit the building. NORAD Gen. Larry Arnold said this fighterjet—not Flight 77—is almost certainly the plane seen on the Dulles airport Air Traffic Controller's screen making a steep, high-speed 270-degree descent before disappearing from the radar."

It ties in with all sorts in fact...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brilliant! good work indeed

surely this is conclusive evidence that cannot be ignored by the government and media!

you should send your finding to alex jones to get it more public

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and 911blogger.com
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is super work.

I will forward this to Nila Sagadevan, so see what comments he has.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confused, did a 757 hit the Pentagon 9/11 according to this data? am I missing something? Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:50 pm    Post subject: Pent Vid, Reply with quote

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Ah! I airmailed copies of the whole lot to 9/11 Blogger a week ago!

Alex jones was one I didnt consider. Will try that too.

Sheriton Hotel: Well it doesnt actually show it hitting the building BUT looking at the trajectory its fairly obvious it would have a second later.

The point is that the approach and altitude over the poles DOES NOT MATCH THE CCTV FOOTAGE.

All I`m saying is its fairly solid indication that ONE of them is faked or tampered with. Which one....I dont know and for our immidiate purposes it doesnt matter which one.

Its also with the specialist "Flight Data Recorder" team at Loose Change forum. Alot of those chaps are ex pilots and aircraft industry people and are going over the data gleefully as we speak. Razz

I think we have friends at the NTSB, the animation was a bonus disc I didnt ask for.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHERITON HOTEL wrote:
I'm confused, did a 757 hit the Pentagon 9/11 according to this data? am I missing something? Confused



...and I'm confused as I thought only US citizens could make FOI requests...? Obviously not.

Which has got my head ticking.

Thx for images.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: FOIA requests Reply with quote

Utopiated,
Nah there is nothing stopping UK citizens making such requests!

Either that or you can join the small number of people who now suspect me of working for the security services because I "just happened" to "find" this animation from no-where that guys living 20minuited from the NTSB offices in Washington couldnt get in 2 years of trying.

Honestly you just can`t win!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snowy.
did you give any reason why you wanted the info? or did you just say 'can I have this info?'

I think we should all be flexing our minds and using our imaginations a bit, and asking for official inofrmation on things like you have done

i goes to show how beuractratic the whole government/agency/official science bodies structure is. They are compartmentalized and have protocols to follow. so it makes sense that some things will 'come out' if we just ask for it i guess!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:39 pm    Post subject: Tim Reply with quote

here is a copy of the email I sent the NTSB: It isnt hard!

To: FOIA
> Subject: FOIA request
>
> Dear Sir/Madam,
> I have been directed to yourselves by Ms **** ********of the NTSB.
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> I am making a Freedom of Information Act request to obtain copies of the
> flightpath studies done on the hijacked flights on 09/11/01 (DD/MM/YY).
>
> The official titles I request are:
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> 1: NTSB report "Flight path study-American Airlines Flight 11" Feb 19th
> 2002
>
> 2: NTSB report "Flight path study-United Airlines 175" Feb 19th 2002
>
> 3: NTSB report "Flight path study-American Airlines flight 77" Feb 19th
> 2002
>
> Many thanks for your assistance, I look forward to your reply.
>

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to find out who authorised Colin powells trip to S amaerica over 9/11. This left Richard Armitage in charge, another PNAC signatory. Possibly another coincidence but may be worth investigating.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does the "EDT" time refer to?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: EDT Reply with quote

To be honest Scuba I dont know for certain.

However my best eduated guess is Eastern Daylight Time, which is a North American timezone term.

http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/edt.html

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I realise it refers to Eastern Daylight Time but it is 13:37 - lunchtime?

I am not trying to rubbish that effort in getting all that information. It reminds me of the incorrect timestamp on the original Pentagon frames, thats all.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres my upload with commentary. Same video pretty much.. but shows what is strange via the comments... enjoy and be sure to rate...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzR-q0ijbV0


Also my blog based on the end data...
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=110 92

Hijacker timeline based on the FDR...
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=113 82

Pilots For Truth
http://pilotsfor911truth.bravehost.com/index.html

Feel free to sign up for the forum...

cheers!
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