Are you a tool of the US government?

[Johnny Pixels]

Just wanted to get the facts, because internet polls are widely accepted to be the most reliable indicators of the truth.

[stateofgrace]

I am an ordinary person, with a loving family.

[judge_mental]

I am an ordinary shrill person

[IronSnot]

So two of us arn't shills and two of us are.

But which two?

[MiniMauve]

I'm a shill...

... but an unwitting one like the rest of us. It's the biggest reason why, after 5 years, there is no official cure for SBCS*.
























* Sudden Building Collapse Syndrome

[aggle-rithm]

[aggle-rithm]

Did I say I'm a shill? I meant I'm NOT a shill. Yes, that's it. That'll do nicely.

[SHERITON HOTEL]

Surely we could have closure to all this if the US Government came out and faced their critics openly, their response to the 9/11 truth has been very suspicious to say the least, no one can say their response has been open and transparent. What have they to loose from a independent judicial public enquiry where witnesses are supenared and have to give their evidence under oath if there is no truth in what they are being accused of?

[aggle-rithm]

[MiniMauve]

[Johnny Pixels]

[quote="MiniMauve"]
So, there is nothing suspicious at all about the official story of 911? Not even worth an independent investigation, eh? Not even a niggling of doubt? Please, there are legitimate questions here, which even if you believe the official story so far, you have to admit need to be addressed.

From my point of view, there are no niggling questions, not anything that would falsify the official story. And nothing on this or any other fourm has managed to convince me otherwise, because there has been nothing solid to argue against the official account. Everything is "looks like" "sounds like" "could be". Nothing definite. If there were to be an independent inquiry, would the "truth movement" accept its findings if it came to conclusions which proved they were wrong?

[SHERITON HOTEL]

[Johnny Pixels]

[SHERITON HOTEL]

[stateofgrace]

[MiniMauve]

[SHERITON HOTEL]

http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=6300

I thought this was old news (hope I've typed it right)enough hard evidence to start WW3 but not enough to get a conviction, funny old world innit?

[stateofgrace]

I'm not being funny here but you do know the alleged mastermind behind 911 in actually in custody don't you?

You do know the plan was put to UBL in 1996 but rejected and finally authorised in 1999?

[SHERITON HOTEL]

[stateofgrace]

Listen mate, I am not trying to provoke an argument with you and nobody is trying to rewrite history to suit.

I assure you the alleged mastermind behind 911 is in US custody; his testimony was declassified at the trial and is now in the public domain.

It took five years to build a case against the one person that has been convinced.

There is a very real difference between knowing and proving, these guys will not walk, they will go down.

I have said to you UBL didn’t mastermind 911, he authorised it. There is plenty of evidence to support this here.

http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/index.php

Please take some time to read what is here, it is well worth it and will hopefully show you exactly what is happening re UBL.

BTW I am not a Bush supporter, and I know he lies, this information is not from him, it is from the US Justice Dept.

[SHERITON HOTEL]

I can't find it among all those never ending wedding pics and whotnot you'll have to direct me to it. What I really want to see is the FBI confiscated Hotel, petrol station and freeway CCTV security video footage of whatever hit the pentagon, their failure to release it is fueling the CT's you must agree.

So Bin Ladin wasn't behind 9/11 it was a completely different character, then you get 911 inside job denyers saying the "Idunnit"home video he left out for his old pals in the CIA to find and the other shrekish vid shown on Al Jaz that won Bush the election prove he WAS behind 9/11, you people really should co-oberate your stories!

outa here, back tomorrow

[stateofgrace]

Please read the sworn statements from

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (aka Mukhtar) is a high ranking member of Al Quada who master minded the attacks.
Other name “Sheikh Mohammed”
Bin Laden appointed him this role.
Captured 2003.

And
Ramzi Bin al-Shibh captured 2002 was a would be hijacker who applied for but failed four times to get a visa.

And

Mustafa Ahmed al-Hawasawi, captured March 2003.

And

Ammar al-Baluchi (“ Baluchi”),capture April 2003.

And

Walid Muhammad Salih al-Attash, captured April 2003

And

Mohammed Manea Ahmad al-Qahtani ( “Qahtani”), captured December 2001.

This is sworn testimony presented before a US court in the most important case this century.

UBL authorised 911, he did not mastermind it. There really is no story to get right. If you really want the truth at least, do as I have done and read fully what is here.

The rest is up to you.

The failure to release video footage proves nothing unless you believe it for a sinister motive.
My understanding is there was a call for the release of all footage showing the aircrafts impact, this, under the freedom of information act as been done.
There is other footage which does not show the aircraft hit the Pentagon which is still being held by the US Government, but like I said unless you think it is to hide a conspiracy that something else hit the Pentagon, it is irrelevant.
There is plenty of evidence released already to suggest Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, as such this footage is not relevant.

BTW the never ending wedding photographs and whatnot are pictures of the victims, a bit of respect, maybe?

[aggle-rithm]

[IronSnot]

Silverstein's insurance looks to me like it could have been better. But he remains suspicious in my mind because he didn't turn up for work on time that day, nor did his daughter, nor did his son. Normally the three of them would have had breakfast at Windows on the World that morning.

[Mooter]

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4373

Interesting bit about Silversteins insurance policy and his "obligation" to rebuild in the event of collapse.

[MiniMauve]

[Johnny Pixels]

[MiniMauve]

I never said that the fact he took insurance out on the building made him a suspect, I said that because he had insurance on the building when it collapsed and therfore was paid a very large insurance reward, he becomes an automatic suspect, or should. As I said, if a full investigation was conducted, he may be found completely innocent and it is just a coincidence. I believe in innocent til proven guilty (unlike say... Bush) but I do believe also in proper police work and full, transparent investigations, particularly in high profile cases such as this. Let me be 100% clear - if Vornado had won the bidding and 911 occurred, THEY would be an automatic suspect and should be investigated. If it was insured by the Dalai Lama, HE should be investigated! Capiche? Surely, this is Criminal Investigations 101? How can you even argue against it?

[Johnny Pixels]

[Ronin]