Reply To A 9/11 Skeptic

[Wokeman]

Nila Sagadevan tells of a hardcore skeptic who absolutely refuses to believe that 9/11 was a hoax despite his reading books on the subject and watching DVDs. According to Nila this skeptic wrote:

Please do a simple mind calculation and estimate how many people would be involved with all aspects of the 9/11 scheme as you describe it. Now calculate what percentage of those people are NOT in the Federal Gov't (a wild assumption that the Feds CAN keep a secret). Then do something that you can't learn in a physics class. Be honest with yourself in regard to whether all of those people could live in silence about what they (or those that they know) had done?
In reply we can say, firstly, if this person thinks of himself as a skeptic, why does he accept the official story with all its holes and total lack of supporting evidence?

Secondly we can question his request for "a simple mind calculation". There is almost no calculation involving 9/11 that is simple, so our skeptic asks for what is impossible, and is merely urging agreement with his own (unsupported) view.

Thirdly we can reply that the higher-ups in the conspiracy (such as Cheney and Rumsfeld), and some at a lower level, certainly have a motive to keep silent, since they are well-known to the public, and have their careers, their reputations and their necks at stake.

So the skeptic is really positing a number of unknown auxilliary figures, perhaps hundreds, all potential whistle-blowers like Sibel Edmonds. But (fourthly) this is mere supposition, and the number of operatives involved may well have been much less than a hundred. Professor A. K. Dewdney gives an estimate for the minimum as 36 — see http://www.serendipity.li/wot/operation_pearl.htm.

And the Finnish military expert who published the report providing evidence that small H-bombs were used in the WTC demolitions, estimates that thirty men were needed to install the cutting charges in the twin towers — see http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/soldier1.htm. Of these thirty at least half would not have known what was really going on and could easily be disposed of immediately after (or even before) 9/11, along with other low-level operatives. Those who planned on killing several thousand people in the collapse of the twin towers would certainly think nothing of killing as many low-level operatives as was needed to avoid exposure.

So, apart from the public figures who knew in advance that 9/11 would occur (even if they were not involved in the detailed planning), there may be only 20-30 operatives who remain alive. They are not likely to talk of what could bring them a death sentence if they were ever tried and convicted. And if they are the products of many years of (military or otherwise) training (or mental conditioning, or even mind-control) then it is not surprising that they do not talk.

Also it is erroneous to think of these operatives as, in our skeptic's words, "in the Federal Gov't (a wild assumption that the Feds CAN keep a secret)." Since the 9/11 hoax was crucial to the NWO plan to dominate the world, it is likely that the best and most committed operatives from the secret government were involved, not your ordinary federal employees.

Moreover, perhaps we are mistaken if we think of these operatives as people, capable of feeling guilt or shame as ordinary people are. If they are the products of twenty years of mind-control (their training beginning in the Reagan years) then they are more like zombies.

Or if not zombies then perhaps they are like cult followers, believing in a higher mission, perhaps to save their bloodline or secret society from the catastrophes that are predicted (or are planned) to befall most of the human population of the planet in the coming years.


As David Ray Griffin has remarked recently, we are dealing with demonic evil. Its instruments keep silent because it is in their interest to do so; unless they decide to say something designed to mislead, confuse or deceive.

[brian]

There is also the very real possibility/probability that those lower level operatives involved would not have allegiance to the US. It would be no problem for them to "live in silence". Some think that Cheney etc were not even aware that the WTC would be demolished in the manner it was. That to my mind would not be difficult to believe.

[Garcon Warrior]

Well its reported that there are 600,000 freemasons in the U.k. In America that could be at least four times that number, and also they have there college fraternitys which imo is engaging the young to think secret societys are normal thing to join. So I think looking at the figures it would be very easy to cover up having got the right people in the right places.

[Mark Gobell]

My standard reply to the stock retort from Coincidence Theorists is this:

You have asked me to speculate how many people would have to be involved in a conspiracy of 9/11 ?

OK let's speculate.

Let's pick a known conspiracy from history. A conspiracy that was unknown at the time but one that has since been proved to have been a conspiracy.

I choose the Iran Contra Affair.

How many people do you think were involved in that little conspiracy and how did they manage to keep that quiet for so long ?

You go away and find the answer to that one and you will have answered your own question.

If that doesn't work, I try this:

The Official Conspiracy Theory states that there were 19 hijackers and a couple of foreign money men. Let's say 30 in total for example.

If 30 terrorists armed with nothing more than their faith, willingness to die, some flight training, 767 operator manuals and videos could pull off something like 9/11 without anyone in the entire US Federal Government, the CIA, the Intelligence Agencies, the FBI, or anyone else in the world knowing:

Do you not think it likely that 30 extremely powerful, senior figures in said agencies could have pulled this off ?

[scar]

The expected reply to Iran Contra would be 'yeah but that all came out in the end, there were whistleblowers' etc to which one can of course say "And so will 9/11. Cant ya hear the sounds of the dam breaking? Listen closer"



The Manhatten Project is another good example to use.

[Guthead]

Has anyone else heard about this? I just saw a video yesterday about a women talking about her husband and other people who would join a fraternity but they would have to do homosexual favours or whatnot in order to join, im sure we all know of rumors to some extent of what fraternity's will make you do. Anyways this women said they would get people to do these acts, and then once they do, they join with them because now they have stuff on him, I dont think those people are going to want others finding out they did some pretty gay stuff. I cant recall the video, and I dont fully believe it, but how she said it it did make some sense as to why maybe they would keep secret, her husband was part of it apparently has told her about it. Anyone else heard of this?
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[Mark Gobell]

The Skull and Bones initiation ceremony invloves, well you read it . . .

...the most pervasive rumors about Bones are that initiates must masturbate in a coffin while recounting their sexual exploits, and that their candor is ultimately rewarded with a no-strings-attached gift of $15,000

http://www.prisonplanet.com/george_w_knight_of_eulogia_1.htm