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| dh wrote: | | lostpomme wrote: | no problem Paul.
All seven seats available as yet. Keep you posted.
Hope the meeting went well. |
The meeting went very well, lostpomme.
Can't say I've sold any of your seats, but we shall see
Suggest you try to stay down there for Sunday at least - the prospects for the conference are very promising. Stuff your work - this is far more important |
Well the seats will be going, occupied or not! Shame to wast the space.
Looks like i'll be ok to stay the full weekend, just got to get confirmation next week. Technically it could be important to be at work if no one can cover me (I'm in the fire service), although in the big picture/fate of mankind type context i guess you have a point. 
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Hello all!
Im new here and was just sniffing around for more details on this night which i will proudly be attending, came across these boards and thought i would join up.
I first saw loose change about 8 months ago and have been following the truth trail ever since.
Nice to find a uk based site and i hope to be talking to you all some more soon, and finding out about how to get my arse in gear to MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
i look forward to saturday
godspeed!
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ian neal
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Welcome tumbongo
There is an all day event on Sunday in Brixton which will be a chance to link up with campaigners and hear how others do things
In terms of 'getting your arse in gear' the easiest way is to link up with people near you or arrange a film screening in a local pub/student's union/where ever |
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The Watcher
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:39 am Post subject: London v Lewes |
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Can anyone tell me if there have been any 9/11 events organised by the London 9/11 Truth Group?
I have wasted a couple of evenings at London Socials, where nothing happened except a few people sitting around complaining about the mainstream media.
I took a trip down to Lewes last night to see the Chairman of the 9/11 Truth Campaign give a talk. The Lewes group put on a great show; something like 200 people, most looking absolutely gob-smacked at what Ian Crane was presenting. The slide show he has put together is f*"%ing amazing. I can't believe how much he got through in an hour and a half. Perhaps a bit too much for one or two in the audience who definitely had their world rocked. His handling of the Q&A was brilliant; although he almost got into a bit of hot water when he mentioned freemasonry in the US but he came back well, demonstrating a real depth of knowledge. I got back home and checked out a few things that Ian talked about and everything checked out.
Why isn't this bloke giving this talk in every town in the country?
I, for one, won't be wasting any more time with the London group. I'll be on the train down to Lewes.
My ticket for David Ray Griffin came from Totnes so would I be correct in assuming that the Totnes group are running this event? I know it can't be anything to do with the London group, even though its on their turf.
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Watcher,
Glad you enjoyed last night. Ian will be doing an talk on Sunday at the gathering.
Credit for the DRG event is national. We had a planning meeting in Bristol in July, where people from all the groups came together to plan this event. The london group has had a failry large part to play in the DRG event so don't be too harsh. Likewise with the gathering, the gig on the Sunday night and the demo. Other groups have chipped in extremely well and it has been a really good effort by all involved.
The gig is hopefully going to be the first of a monthly nigth raising awareness amongst the youth and we are also planning to have talkers/film screenings on a monthly basis as the social event. The thing is it is all very all asking for these events but help is needed as no-one does this full time so if you are keen to get involved please do come and speak to me over the weekend at some point.
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Mark Gobell
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Watcher
I've just emailed Ian Crane about how we go about organising similar events in each of our areas.
We could all put our minds and effort into this.
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| Quote: | | Why isn't this bloke giving this talk in every town in the country? |
Delighted that you enjoyed Ian's presentation. He did a marvellously professional and polished performance at Lytham in Lancashire last year the main subject of the talk "is there a connection between 7/7 and 9/11". I was fortunate to be amongst the audience.
The global 911 truth campaign is about people like you Watcher taking the red pill and anlysing the information that is left out by the mainstream media.
The 911 truth network is now becoming a formidable force to succeed in its objective to secure that full professional independent investigation in revealing the whole truth of the events of 911, not just the day but events before and after also.. Have you signed the petition on the front page Watcher, I hope that you have?
I am sure that Ian Crane would love to do what you suggest, but dont forget at present the campaign in the UK is limited by the amount of funding, resources and assets it has, that includes Ian Crane and everyone who supports the petition on the front page of this website.
Hopefully when adequate funds become a reality that professional 911 roadshow with top quality speakers like Ian, Annie & David, and maybe even David Ray Griffin in not too far ahead of us now.
IMO its up to the strength of the network at grassroots level and awakening the silent majority to TRUTH.
Peace & Truth
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Has the idea been discussed of creating sub sections to this or another UK-based site for regional activity?
I know there is a 911-WestYorks site and a few others but in reality is there enough reason/resources/point to creating individual websites for regions when a seperate topic area here would suffice.
Make the chair of each region an admin for that section or something so they could post and mod their own topic areas and interact with local activists.
I'd rather click to and from local/reagional/national issues on one site. This isn't negating the organic nature of collectives or the way the net operates - simply seems obvious compared to having a load of local/regional sites which aren't used enough to make them worthwhile.
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ian neal
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:44 am Post subject: Re: London v Lewes |
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| The Watcher wrote: | Can anyone tell me if there have been any 9/11 events organised by the London 9/11 Truth Group?
I have wasted a couple of evenings at London Socials, where nothing happened except a few people sitting around complaining about the mainstream media.
I took a trip down to Lewes last night to see the Chairman of the 9/11 Truth Campaign give a talk. The Lewes group put on a great show; something like 200 people, most looking absolutely gob-smacked at what Ian Crane was presenting. The slide show he has put together is f*"%ing amazing. I can't believe how much he got through in an hour and a half. Perhaps a bit too much for one or two in the audience who definitely had their world rocked. His handling of the Q&A was brilliant; although he almost got into a bit of hot water when he mentioned freemasonry in the US but he came back well, demonstrating a real depth of knowledge. I got back home and checked out a few things that Ian talked about and everything checked out.
Why isn't this bloke giving this talk in every town in the country?
I, for one, won't be wasting any more time with the London group. I'll be on the train down to Lewes.
My ticket for David Ray Griffin came from Totnes so would I be correct in assuming that the Totnes group are running this event? I know it can't be anything to do with the London group, even though its on their turf.
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Hi Watcher
Firstly I agree Ian is an inspiration and I recommend his talks to any one who hasn't had the chance.
He has done many talks over the past year(s) around the country. the limiting factor is his time and money.
Individuals in London area have arranged talks and film screenings. I have done several and David and Annie are very active. There was the 9/11 eyewitness screening recently, plus Nafeez has been busy and then there was 'our' support for Jimmy Walters' tour. Plus a presentation at the European Social Forum back on 2004 and the last national get together a year a go at the Circle Centre to mention a few.
The DRG talk/visit is being arranged with input from many people including several London based campaigners, not least Annie, Andy B and Tim S but thankfully Ian C and other Totnes campaigners have been very busy as well with tickets, leaflets and so on.
At the end of the day different groups are not in any sort of competition and we should try to learn from each other. The London socials serve a function in that they allow people to get together, meet other campaigners, share ideas, etc, but presentations of information they are not. I share your view that there may be better ways of organising them but you are not comparing like with like.
If you do come to another London meeting why not speak up at the meeting suggesting they should be run differently and for a different purpose. You may find others agree and no one would shoot you down for saying so. The organisation and chairing of any meetings is open to rotation around the group and no one is precious about it
Alternatively set up a smaller local meeting (London is a big place after all) borrow from what you found inspiring in Lewes and run those differently. There has been talk of setting up N, S, E and W London groups
Another option: run your own talks/presentations/film screenings or whatever and link up with like minded people to do your own thing, etc. There is a LOndon email list, why not propose an idea and see if others want to join you in making it happen
Last option, don't bother going to social meetings. Campaign in other ways. You are not alone in finding the London social meetings not to their taste and that's completely fine. I don't go to every one and often disappear to play football half way through because I don't always find them the best use of my time in a very busy life. Each to their own.
In much the same way as discussion forums aren't everyone's idea of effective campaigning or a good use of their time, there are many campaigners who are busy campaigning and choose not to bother with meetings or the internet.
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| scar wrote: | | I suggested a regional sub section forum before but dont think others agree. Thats definately the impression i got. Could be hard to manage maybe? |
If there is wide spread support (and I believe there probably would be) for regional sub sections, I will try and push it. I certainly reckon it's a good idea. At the same time I don't want to piss off those who have put a lot time building their own regional/local websites |
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Roger the Horse
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Does anyone know if it is still OK to turn up and pay on the door?
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There will be a limited supply of tix on the door, please show up early for these. £12.50
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Thanks Andy!
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| Roger the Horse wrote: | | Does anyone know if it is still OK to turn up and pay on the door? |
You'll probably get a ticket if you arrive early, but they are selling fast.
Alternatively, to be sure, you could book one by e-mailing Annie anniemachon@yahoo.co.uk
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: London v Lewes |
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| The Watcher wrote: | Can anyone tell me if there have been any 9/11 events organised by the London 9/11 Truth Group?
I have wasted a couple of evenings at London Socials, where nothing happened except a few people sitting around complaining about the mainstream media.
I took a trip down to Lewes last night to see the Chairman of the 9/11 Truth Campaign give a talk. The Lewes group put on a great show; something like 200 people, most looking absolutely gob-smacked at what Ian Crane was presenting. The slide show he has put together is f*"%ing amazing. I can't believe how much he got through in an hour and a half. Perhaps a bit too much for one or two in the audience who definitely had their world rocked. His handling of the Q&A was brilliant; although he almost got into a bit of hot water when he mentioned freemasonry in the US but he came back well, demonstrating a real depth of knowledge. I got back home and checked out a few things that Ian talked about and everything checked out.
Why isn't this bloke giving this talk in every town in the country?
I, for one, won't be wasting any more time with the London group. I'll be on the train down to Lewes.
My ticket for David Ray Griffin came from Totnes so would I be correct in assuming that the Totnes group are running this event? I know it can't be anything to do with the London group, even though its on their turf.
The Watcher |
I agree the London Group should be putting on more public meetings and am prepared to push for this. Perhaps you would like to join in that push, Watcher. I also think Ian Crane would be an excellent speaker for one of them.
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I believe Mick Meaney of http://www.rinf.com/ has compiled a comprehensive list of UK 9/11 sites. Try contacting him.
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andyb
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Watchr and Noel,
No need to push, i've already started to tentatively organise this. The london group should use this weekends events as a platform. The socials should be events like these and the campaign meetings should be disacussions about organising these events IMO. I'm also looking to build on the gig and hopefully that can become another monthly social event to bring in the youngsters.
Ian Henshall has agreed to do a talk for the London group in October, as has Nafeez Ahmed. I have also put out the feelers regarding a cinema screening of LC: Final Edition. Ian C will certainly do one at some point too.
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| xmasdale wrote: | | Roger the Horse wrote: | | Does anyone know if it is still OK to turn up and pay on the door? |
You'll probably get a ticket if you arrive early, but they are selling fast.
Alternatively, to be sure, you could book one by e-mailing Annie anniemachon@yahoo.co.uk
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Ian Crane told me that they are keeping 30 back for the door. Arrive early.
As an extra, is this talk going to be put on you-tube or google video?
Edit: I have designed a Reading website but there is no forum board. Im not that sophisticated! |
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Hey all I'll be getting a lift down, I'm a beardy with an FBI T-shirt. Hope to meet as many of you as I can.
peace & love
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| I am very sad not to be able to come to the events in London, but would like to wish all concerned with them the very best of British for what should be a truly terrific weekend of Truth! |
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hey guys - coming all the way down from cardiff for this one
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ianrcrane
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: Extremely Belated Thanks |
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Having returned to Devon at the end of last week, I have finally managed to sit down, draw breath and reflect on the events over the fifth anniversary of 9/11. To those who were actively involved, I extend my heartfelt thanks for making the occasion such an unqualified success.
Although it was ostensibly a team effort, I am sure that there won’t be too many objections if I acknowledge the tremendous contributions of Andy Baker and Annie Machon in pulling the events of the weekend together; Andrew Johnson, Calum, Chris & Becca for their respective efforts to ensure that the events were publicised in various mediums, thus ensuring an absolute sell-out on Saturday night; Steve and Kenny for copying beaucoup de DVD’s; Noel for organising the book stall; Belinda for her amazing hospitality; to all those who ran workshops at the Sunday Gathering and to Tim Spark of Mercury Media for arranging DRG’s visit to the UK...as well as getting Loose Change II shown on TV channels in over 50 Countries!
From my perspective, it is an honour and a privilege to be associated with the 9/11 Truth Campaign at this significant juncture and I very much look forward to seeing the movement grow as more local groups become established.
So going forward, let’s not get bogged down in keyboard activism or fuelling circular Email debate on minutiae …let’s focus instead on making things happen!
On that note, now please go directly to my post titled Place Your Bets: www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=24792#24792
Thanks & regards,
Ian R. Crane
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