What do you think happened? Our own accounts....

[optimus79]

I've taken a keen interest in the 9/11 truth movement for about 6 months now. I had always been interested in the event, and last year when visiting NY, Ground Zero was literally my first place that I visited. I cant explain it, I was just drawn there. I must have stood there for about an hour until Charles and Camilla turned up and it got all busy, so i pissed off round the corner to go see the Ghostbusters HQ.

Anyway, my point is that there are so many theories and arguments but not many suggestions at giving an account of how it all comes together.

So, what do we believe to be a rough idea of the whole story

Here is what I think...



The U.S and the Saudi's have been bedfellows for a very long time now. To me it is no coincidence that 15 or so of the supposed hijackers were of Saudi origin, yet when have we ever been told to point a finger of suspicion at Saudi Arabia. Even Bin Laden himself is a Saudi.

America was using Bin Laden well up in to the late 90's in Bosnia, and there are numerous reports that the CIA visited him in a hospital in Pakistan or Dubai as recent as July 2001.

I believe that there could well have been terrorists used that day, although "used" is the operative word here.

It is fact that America funded and trained Al Quaeda.

Many of the supposed hijackers of that day were free to come and go from the States in the years running up to 9/11. Infact there numrous attampts from within the FBI to apprehend these men, but it was refused time and time again.

It is fact that George Bush signed a warning telling certain members of the FBI to STOP investigating Bin Laden or they would face arrest.


NOW WHAT IF.....


The American top brass who are involved with the Saudi's who have these huge links to oil companies who will profit from such attacks engineered 9/11 along with the top SAUDI members of Al Quaeda.

Is it not possible that while those in power in the States are duping their people over 9/11, the very same people who were working alongside the U.S to fight Russia and helping them in Bosnia are also using their people to fight a false enemy.

Perhaps the terrorists thought they really were on a mission to destroy certain buildings, perhaps they did take training, perhaps they were all ready to commit suicide. But America had the technology to make it happen. As long as the terrorists boarded those flights, there was the technology to control where they went.

Now when it comes to the Twin Towers, I believe that within the weeks running up to 9/11 they were fitted with cutter charges at various places within the structure. The same goes for WTC7. Silverstein could have been informed that there was to be a possible attack and thats why he took out the insurance policy. Why did he not say anything? Well, depends on what he was told and who told him. And anyway the liklihood of making Billions of dollars would have been enough for him I imagine.

I believe these cutter charges were placed because they knew that planes would be hitting the towers. 2 direct hits that would create astonishing images in one of the most awesome spectacles in history. Surely they wouldnt have the audacity to stage an event like this.

As for the Pentagon, I am still unsure that a Passenger plane was used, in my opinion it is much more likely that a smaller military jet was used, and that the real Flight 77 could well be at the bottom of the mid Atlantic.

Flight 93? I believe was probably taken over by terrorists, and after they had made the move it was shot down from the skies, only for there to have been a heroic tale for which America can take solace.

One of the interesting pionts I mentioned, is that THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE MAYDAY CALL from any pilot that day, strange considering all pilots were supposedly removed by force from their positions and that the last two pilots were already aware of two earlier hijckings.

In my opinion, the terrorists were told by their superiors that they were to take some planes that day for a simple hijacking. I dont belive they knew that there was a bigger picture involving high ranking people within the U.S that knew the planes they hijcked would be flown in to the Twin Towers.

Once the planes hit the towers, bombs started going off within the structure. This is also a fact, many many firemen and survivors from the towers reported numerous explosions going off from lower floors. There was also a report that the entire basement was blown to pieces, in my mind this was the explosives weakening the infrastructure of the buildings.

Eventually they took out the main columns and the towers fell in free fall with no resistance in 8 seconds. All you need to do is look in to this, and you will find all the reports of explosions going off up and down the towers in between impact and collapse.

Later that day when the focus was on the terrible events, WTC7 was brought down, quietly and without fuss and eventually with out investigation

Given the fact that America and Al Quaeda have been tenuously linked for over 20 years, given the fact that so many Saudi's were supposedly involved in that day, given the fact America has followed the plans of PNAC set out in 1997, that we were lied to over our reasons to go over there, that they still keep lying to us over the reasons for being there, that they are making TRILLIONS of dollars for being in the middle east, that they are making TRILLIONS of dollars for turning the western world in to a police state of scared and frightened people who will agree and go along with anything they suggest, even if it means taking away our rights.

Could this be what happened, maintaining the relations between U.S and Saudi Arabia?


I appreciate your time, and who knows I may end up unwittingly chatting to some of you at David R Griffins talk this saturday.

[Wokeman]

Optimus79
I can give you my version of what happened that day, but I emphasise it is only my version.
The "hijackers" were used as "patsies". They were already on the CIA payroll quite some time before 2001, and being used in the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan. After the Soviet collapse in 1989, they moved to the US and prior to 9/11, they took up posts, allegedly in "flight schools" in Florida, which incidentally had 200 of these "schools". My belief is that they were engaged in running the drug trade, and flying aircraft carrying the cargo. The global trade in that precious substance is worth billions of dollars per year, (and someone has to do it). Mohammad Atta wasn't a fanatical Muslim terrorist, he used drugs, enjoyed pork chops and the high life with women. He certainly wasn't the kind of man to fly aircraft into buildings. In any case, the aircraft were probably remotely controlled, and the buildings were brought down by controlled explosions using pre-set high explosives. What happened on 9/11 and the murder of 2,800 innocent people was carried out by elements high up in the US administration and intelligence services.

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[optimus79]

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What happened according to the NIST investigation was this :-

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/sund-flash.html

from http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/sunder.html

I can almost hear the narrator inwardly laughing, as he recites this government-approved tripe! But, there is some interesting graphical stuff, some of which can be disputed by evidence presented in other threads on this forum, and some of which I had never seen before. Enjoy!