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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:20 am    Post subject: Reptilian Eyes. Reply with quote


Phillip Zelikow

See what I mean?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes! Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I'm sure he was such a lovely baby and it's just the stress of managing such a difficult investigation deciding who the research staff were, what subjects they should research and over seeing what the final text should say that have taken there toll and make his eyes look a little tired and wringled. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This "man" certainly deserves our attention.

Read as much about him as you can stomach.

A question:

At the DRG / DS presentation on Saturday, toward the end DRG quoted Zelikow something like this, if I heard it correctly:

Zelikow is on record saying that "if the WTC was attacked it would be so significant an event it would herald a new before and after era. We would be able to increase surveillance..."

Can anyone else verify that I heard that correctly ?

Does anyone have a link to these rather prescient comments ?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most lizard -like human I can think of is probably Pullerstein himself.

Mind you, I can look a bit reptilian after a rough night.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

["quote =andrewwatson=quote"]The most lizard -like human I can think of is probably Pullerstein himself.

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I concur, I have said that myself. He does though.doesnt he, big head small body, that rasping gurgling sound. The one thing I detest in this world is pictures of neocons, smiling. Weirdos.

Why did he say that? Why did he say "Pull it"?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They pull off this this demonic masterplan and he puts up his hand and says, "It was us, we did it, we decided to blow them up with high explosives" or words of that effect. Bizarre.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Gobell wrote:
This "man" certainly deserves our attention.

Read as much about him as you can stomach.

A question:

At the DRG / DS presentation on Saturday, toward the end DRG quoted Zelikow something like this, if I heard it correctly:

Zelikow is on record saying that "if the WTC was attacked it would be so significant an event it would herald a new before and after era. We would be able to increase surveillance..."

Can anyone else verify that I heard that correctly ?

Does anyone have a link to these rather prescient comments ?


He did, I heard him say that. Did he say Zelikow said it in 1998 or something?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This from Wikipedia on Zelikow's 1998 article:

Philip Zelikow wrote:
In the November-December 1998 issue of Foreign Affairs, he co-authored an article entitled “Catastrophic Terrorism,” in which he speculated that if the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center had succeeded, “the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of catastrophic terrorism would be a watershed event in American history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America’s fundamental sense of security, as did the Soviet atomic bomb test in 1949. Like Pearl Harbor, the event would divide our past and future into a before and after. The United States might respond with draconian measures scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force. More violence could follow, either future terrorist attacks or U.S. counterattacks. Belatedly, Americans would judge their leaders negligent for not addressing terrorism more urgently.”


Note the teminology:

...allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force.

rather than requiring for example.

The article in question is titled: Catastrophic Terrorism: Elements of a National Policy, co-authored by Zelikow and two other members of yet another forebodingly named think tank "Visions of Governance for the 21st Century". http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/visions

Ring any bells ?

http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/visions/publication/terrorism.htm

This document looks very much like the blueprint for the entire Bush Doctrine.

Zelikow and his cohorts call here for a return to their version of the Marshall plan of post war Europe, not as Marshall envisaged through "assisting the devastated nations of Europe, friends and foes alike, to rebuild" but to what Zelikow calls Preventative Defense, which we now know as preventative, pre-emptive war.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have been doing some research , and though not going all the way into lizard land, I am hovering on the edge of buying the Illuminati/Masonic/Satanic thing.

Here I will make a personal observation. I have long found American (and some British-made) mass entertainment of the Hollywood variety to be deeply unhealthy in its obsession with violence and cruelty. I am beginning to find a common thread of nihilism running through much that spews from that poisonous dream-factory. I remember once corresponding with the novelist John Fowles ( The Collector, The French Lieutenant's Woman, The Magus) about a film I was interested in writing the music for. He advised me to have nothng to do with Hollywood."You have attempted to invite yourself into the web of a particularly venomous spider'' were his words.

Now I understand why no Hollywood actors have backed up Charlie Sheen.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting subject Andrew.

When you start to consider the methods of control, movies are a very powerful medium.

The violence and pornography in films gradually normalises the viewer over time.

This causes one of the numerous "blocks" that many have when asked to look at these subjects, objectively. It's normal after all.

Have you noticed how the term "new normal" is being used frequently these days.

I watched Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime last night for the first time and the scene shown from the movie The Network says it all. Excellent.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Reptilian Eyes. Reply with quote

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Phillip Zelikow

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No!

Neither do I see the king's new clothes.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New on this site, I agree with you Andrew - that the more you learn about how those in control operate, the only seeming way to make sense of it is that there is a very dark secretive agenda, with terrorist bombings only one of their more visible activities. As great a crime is the control of the media and educational institutions. To warp learning and hamper it, and hold back the human spirit is a terrible crime. To be frank, nothing should be taken at face value.

The coverage by the BBC this week on 9-11 has been nothing short of infantile. I gave my TV up in July (so I only occasionally watch it at family or friends) - and it just amazed me at how pathetic it has become. My own view is that after the Kelly affair, whatever independence there may have been left at the BBC finally went. When they announced the new al qaeda video from 5 years ago without a jot of real critical analysis, I heartily laughed. I'm not sure my laughter was totally healthy though. What I'm saying is, my anger at 9-11 is magnified 10 times by the lies and control of the mainstream media - particularly that which claims to be a public sector broadcaster.

I think you were probably given good advice about not touching Hollywood. (I assume you didn't?)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Watson said:

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Here I will make a personal observation. I have long found American (and some British-made) mass entertainment of the Hollywood variety to be deeply unhealthy in its obsession with violence and cruelty. I am beginning to find a common thread of nihilism running through much that spews from that poisonous dream-factory. I remember once corresponding with the novelist John Fowles ( The Collector, The French Lieutenant's Woman, The Magus) about a film I was interested in writing the music for. He advised me to have nothng to do with Hollywood."You have attempted to invite yourself into the web of a particularly venomous spider'' were his words.


Totally correct, in my opinion Andrew and I think this is a topic we need to explore and consider. I have just been talking to Keith (from Perth- who gave me a lift home and is having a few hours kip before setting off to drive back - not helped by my coming up stairs and suddenly turning DRG on "Talk Sport" full blast on my computer - I'm too used to living alone!!) - we were saying how our 9/11 group needs to discuss how to deal with people "in denial" and how to get the message over to them - how to deal with them in the right way - (maybe we could have workshops on this in the future?).

The other day I saw a poster advertising the new film by (in my opinion sicko) Quentin Tarantino – “Hostel” described on the poster as something like “This is the nastiest, sickest, most disgusting film you will ever see!”

No thanks, I’d rather see “The Sound of Music” for the hundredth time in my life…. if it came to it. …Well, “The Wizard of Oz” anyway!!!

There is something wrong, something very wrong and it has been wrong for a very long time – people have become conditioned to accept and even enjoy violence – thus they accept war, the brutality measured out to “terrorists” in Camp X Ray etc (people with a brown skin who look foreign) without being horrified and outraged!

Bit tired now, but would like to continue with this discussion…hope others do.

Quite who or what is in control, Andrew, I would not like to say….I have heard a fair deal about the Masons and the Illuminati this weekend…..!!! For me it’s all down to “The Equipment” that’s “taken over” (that’s the only hint I’ve been given to work on!). I don’t really want to get into all the other stuff really. It’s “the equipment” and we’re going to sort it out…!

But in doing so I think we need to explore how people have been damaged and how we can help them to wake up and be made whole…

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good people.

Bare in mind that the discussion of all things lizardy is hugely controversial and could put off new comers and antagonise those posters who do not want the campaign to be associated with non 9/11 subjects that they are uncomfortable with. See guidance

Personally I reckon we should discuss these issues just not here. My suggestion is to cut and paste this into a thread on the excellent www.illusionsforum.com and continue there.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I can remember Lizards have sideways blinking or slit eyes.

Just wondering why I can´t view images on this forum, (have to paste the properties of the image in new window) do i have to click something somewhere toa ctivate this advanced feature? Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bic

Which bit of my last post didn't you understand? Challenge it if you like, but don't ignore it

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