CHOMSKY IS A FRAUD

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1009

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Rabbie McM · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:39 am Post subject:

I've never really got it with Chomsky. Often quoted in mainstream press - that in itself should raise suspicions. Heavily quoted in academia, as some kind of leftist linguistic guru. I've seen some evidence that he is a paid shill. On the other side, is he now just an old man who finds it too difficult and painful to change his world view?

Hisham Tillawi - the interviewer - don't know much about him. Why did he just question him about the Pentagon? Then go onto "safe" questions like Iraq? 9-11 is the key to understanding the neo con war machine. I couldn't be bothered watching it beyond 10 mins, anything on 9-11 further on?

Nevertheless I found it interesting what Chomsky said about "9-11 conspiracy theories" being allowed to flourish as it suits the government. Of course in some aspects this is correct, when it is disinfo. Shades of the Matrix and 1984, cultivated resistance. The powers that be know who the dissidents are then can discredit them all (or worse) at the appointed time.

In short, this goes to show that no man or woman should be hero worshipped and that all should strive for the truth not on anothers say so but on hard facts and evidence. Most of us on this site I daresay have moved way beyond the level of analysis Chomsky offers.

prole art threat · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:48 am Post subject:

I reckon he is totally overrated anyway, nothing special at all but is it his him who is playing a significant role in keeping this underwraps. Im sorry, but if he cant see through this 9/11 issue I feel he is either a fraud or has been winging it all along. His is a prime example of how we dont need 'political heroes.'

He's the nursemaid for the chronically deluded Socialist Worker's Party.

Forget him, he's useless.

sr4470 · Moderate Poster Joined: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 168

A gatekeeper that helps reinforce the left-right paradigm.

Forget Chomsky, we have more serious issues to discuss. The same league involved in things like secret eugenics programs (one of these just come out in the Chicago Tribune - a 60 year mass sterilisation of 400,000 American females involving Anderson Cooper happened between about 1920 and 1980 - single parent family, less than B+ on your report card? Then the medical students get to remove...you get the idea) would have no hesitation in carrying out 9\11. Once we crack this nut, everything else will follow.

coconut · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject:

sr4470 · Moderate Poster Joined: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 168

utopiated · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject:

For a guy that virtually deconstructed linguistics to their DNA source [if you like that sort of thing] AND someone who has, in his own way, done nothing but highlight the role of imperialist actions globally - you would tend to think that Chomsky would find this one a doddle.

Which sort of makes you wonder...

chek · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject:

I would also defend Chomsky, even if only because of his past work.
Manaufacture of Consent was ground breaking in exposing the use of language as a weapon of control, and that alone is a major lifetime achievement in anybody's book.

As for the reasons for his post 911 silence, I don't like to speculate.

But having seen the list of 'professional experts' who all attested to how easy it is for kerosene fires to topple steel skyscrapers, I don't think it's entirely voluntary.

Salacid · Minor Poster Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 15

chek · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:42 pm Post subject:

uselesseater · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject:

Wow. Look at all those wing nuts caliming a hydrocarbon fire can reach temperatures hot enough to melt steel.

Re Chomsky. I've read a couple of his books and they are a good info resource but according to some sources he receives funding from rockefeller, ford, shcumann et al.

Makes perfect sense, too. Maybe he'll write a book about himself called 'managing desent' one day?

MiniMauve · Moderate Poster Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 220

The sense I get of Chomsky is that he is an old crusader that spends so much energy on what has been his life's work that he has nothing to spare for 911. If it had happened when he was a young man, I suspect he would be involved in 911 research. On the other hand, maybe he wouldn't. He has always taken a very wide view in tracking capitalist imperialism. In that sense, 911 is a small blip in a long record of greed-nurtured genocide. 911 is not a significant crime when compared with other genocides in terms of a body count. Heck, the results of 911 (hundreds of thousands of innocents slaughtered in Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon) are far more serious crimes than 911. The difference is that it happened on capitalist soil, so much more attention is paid to it and of course, it was the catalyst for those genocides.

Anyway, while I find Chomsky's point of view to often be too remotely academic for me, he should be commended for a life's work of telling the truth about imperial capitalism while most of the rest of us slept. He should not be maligned b/c he hasn't joined our little pet conspiracy.

prole art threat · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject:

chek · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject:

waking life · Minor Poster Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 32

Chomsky is controlled opposition, who probably does more to protect the 9/11 myth than anybody else on the planet, due to his perceived dissent.

Noam Chomsky on 911 conspiracy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzGd0t8v-d4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM&mode=related&search=

"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum." - Noam Chomsky

chek · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject:

prole art threat · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject:

chek · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject:

paul wright · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject:

Chomsky has exactly the key to the media's mass mind manipulation but doesnt follow it through to its logical conclusion
This is a commonplace amongst the idealogues of the left and anarchism both. They haven't been able to make that paradigm switch quite, though the menace is burgeoning in on them
If you could see the heart-rending and worry and doubt amongst the uk indymedia mods as they struggle to produce a feature article on 9/11 Truth for the central column, it'd make you laugh as they try to produce a format which won't turn off the gatekeepers of the Left by appearing to support 'conspiracy theory' Woe unto them, I fear they might find their topic dead in the water by the time they can agree on something
But please support our allies there by always responding positively to Truth posts which are frequently appearing in the Newswire
As a main activist news place they need the boost we can give
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/

uselesseater · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject:

Yeah dh. I'll get on there. I love how 9/11 truth shatters the fake left/right paradigm and most other false consructs of control.

paul wright · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject:

Absolutely useless eater
It's an endless lesson in letting go
If you cant find it for yourself, Ill turn it up, but the Indy list is an endless source of fascination
Our best comrade Chris from Sheffield who did all the photos and is most on our side as long as it excludes AJ and Rense, you know he's a lovely guy who has done most to turn Indy around, but the process is slow and painful

John White · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:58 pm Post subject:

Just a thought:

Whats the % change that chomsky made a decision not to touch 911 truth becuase the public wouldnt believe it and by going into that area he would undermine all the areas he has been campaigning on for most of his adult life?

easy enough 5 years on to call that a mistake, not so easy to say that 5 years ago

Yes, one can raise questions about Chomsky but calling him a "shill" with no evidance to back it up is somewhat stupid, and only re-inforces the gatekeeper mindset that has seen the "left" resist 911 truth to date

Im am realist of course, I'd hardly expect this post to make a difference even if my supposition was correct

its just a thought

If an analogy is needed its not too hard:

how many posters here privately have doubts about the accuracy of the official account of the Holocaust?

If that was the case, and you were well known publically as a speaker and author for 911 truth: would you say anything?

prole art threat · Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:07 am Post subject:

Oh John, youre equating 9/11 Truth with Holocaust denial. They are completely different things. Why are you saying that?

John White · Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:14 am Post subject:

No, Im showing the mental leap required to go from chalk to cheese, even though cheese fanciers might want one too

Try the post again

The very fact that the words "holocaust denial" (which i didnt use) are so emotive shows the value of the analogy when considering Chomsky's willingness or otherwise to alledge the US government murdered its own citizens instead of those from other countries (for a change)

prole art threat · Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:22 am Post subject:

paul wright · Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:25 am Post subject:

John White · Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:31 am Post subject:

I'd just like to state that I've got absolutely no proof whatsoever my little supposition about Chomsky is correct: its just that its equally as valid as declaring the reason why chomsky wont go near 911 is becuase hes in bed with the intelligence services, and based on equal amounts of evidance

Its not even important: unless we are interested in reaching out to "Chomskites"?

waking life · Minor Poster Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 32

coconut · Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:27 am Post subject:

chek · Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:27 am Post subject:

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