Wake the f*** up!

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They will probably end up sleeping through World War Three, anyways.

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nah they wont be sleeping. they will be debunking the fact that it was a nuclear bomb. they will think it was jet fuel that burnt so intense it vapourised the city. and they will pass of the huge boom as nothing more than a piece of debris hitting a gas pipe. and if they live through it then we will have to listen to there new laws of gravity and phsyics. then a nuketruth movement will be set up. and we will be mere conspiracy theorists.

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The sad truth is that if/when the next world war starts, there is absolutely nothing whatsoever we can do to stop it.

We will all end up sleeping for a very very long time.

[marky 54]

of course theres no way to stop it, because to many think like you.

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I've read that cities are useful ways of herding the cattle into, for mass slaughter. Basically, they need about one tenth of the human population that is extant. To get rid if 9/10 of 6 billion people takes a lot of ammo. It is much less ammo if you group them into large cities. Most of this ground work has already been done. Back to my idea of everyone living in small communes of about 100 to 1000 people all over the world and with no country borders. We would be much more evenly spread over the globe, and a much harder target to hit, consequently.

Or are we too addicted to our cosy lifestyles (even 3rd world countries emulate us, but not very successfully, thankfully) that we will all blindly follow each other into the valley of death?

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I am sorry Telecaster, but it seems your attitude is that these "power puppets" are so mighty and unassailable that we are doomed to experience their form of "justice" whatever we do, and however we vote.

What I am proposing is much simpler :-

1) Do not vote
2) Brew your own beer
3) Avoid using petrol
4) Only smoke marijuana
5) Live in small, self-sufficient communes

Without any money, these "power puppets" will not be able to pay police and military persons to hassle you. They will also not be able to form a government (no mandate) and so a "fairer" coalition will have to be invoked, while the last vestiges of "demoncrazy" are phased out. It is that simple.

[marky 54]

yes see we are dommed because to many people think like you, and to think people would be more bothered if it was a tax they were raising is mind boggling. there would be protests then. dont raise our taxes! ah but you can kill us all thats fine. i take it with your stupid answers to ww3 you dont have kids, maybe you'd be thinking differantly if you did, you would at least care about the future. this guy would shake hands with the guy that pushed the button. telecasteration you are a sheep, your mind has been melted into a lemming. i suppose if the goverment told us we had to jump from a cliff you'd do it because you carnt stop it?

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Ok, I can see you guys have thought through the whole commune angle, I bow to your logic.

It seems quite reasonable – 6.5 billion people all divided up into 1000 strong groups, each group needing fresh water, sanitation, arable land to grow crops and make clothes, trees to build with, medical care and the only global communication is smoke signals and Kevin Costner on a horse.

All this and no boundaries or borders = 'That's mine.' 'No it's not.'

Sounds like a recipe for ten thousand mini-wars raging at any given moment within twelve months.

Let’s just hope that the people we do this to avoid don’t use chemical weapons, thus negating the need to locate anyone.

Where do I sign up? Bagsy I’m in marky 54’s group.

p.s. I actually have 5 daughters ranging 8 - 17 (the 8 year olds are twins).

[marky 54]

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[uselesseater]

The 'What can we change' mantra is the foundation of enemy propaganda.

It is fundamental to the maintenance of the power structures which control you.

If you buy it it will create your reality.

If even 10% of the population could get out of that particular fake paradigm, the systems of control would dissintegrate, literaly overnight.

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Telecaster, you sound like a stern headmaster who does not give credit for "partial answers"!

There is little point in presenting a case to you since you are "deaf ears" AFAIAC. Any hard work I put into drawing up a new constitution or framework for a new society, is simply waste. My website is full of ideas as to how our taxpayers money should have been spent in the past, and "defence" in the form of an arsenal of deadly weapons, is not my idea of "good spending". If you disagree with that, and you have the same old arguments for manufacturing weapons using taxpayers' money, making profit from them by selling them abroad to nefarious dictatorships like Iraq, then we can take this discussion no further.

Society is really stupid. That is obvious from things like :-

1) The planet is full of Cannabis but humans frantically try to spray chemicals to prevent its growth, stigmatise its recreational use, and devise "laws" that threaten users with punishment. Did God make a mistake when the botanical list for Earth was drawn up? No. So, it is humans who are wrong. I have already argued that if the plant is so dangerous as to be made illegal globally (and some countries are very strict about this), then why aren't more dangerous plants like Deadly Nightshade illegal too? You can easily prove that Deadly Nightshade is harmful to man, but it is not so easy to prove that Cannabis is. And this global ban is so recent. What is going on here? See http://jacobsm.com/hicks.htm

2) God made us in the form we are, so why is nudity such an affront to people's sensibilities globally? Apart from sexual obsession to the point of insanity, human nudity should be considered in exactly the same light as animal nudity - totally natural. Choose any country and work out what would happen to you if you walked naked in a busy area. UK - arrest for indecent exposure, unless it's a streak, but you'll still be "restrained". US - Death Row immediately under the Patriot Act with no trial .

These 2 examples show "crimes" with no victim apart from the poor, conditioned wretch who cannot think for himself, and thinks instead in cliches, learnt from a mass media source. There is no evidence that either cause harm. In the "nudity" case, only sexual obsession (see a naked body implies sexual titillation, when it really implies nothing at all) can cause the offence/distraction/accident or whatever that may befall someone from seeing someone else in the nude. In the "pot" case, despite tobacco having a much worse and provable health risk, they still allow cigs globally, and there is no penalty for smoking them apart from the harm done to yourself. Why is it not the same for good old Mary Jane?

Answering these questions for yourself (mass media will not do so, ever) will open many doors and cause a lot of speculation on your behalf. Sensible imagination is the best guide. My own conclusions (unfounded with concrete evidence) point to a global "mash up human consciousness" conspiracy. Keeping us pliant and inert, means we are easy to control.

When you get stoned, you go beyond these bounds spiritually, and you quite often see what's wrong with society, and ways of improving it. This is not "allowed" and hence the global ban.

Being naked does not imply that you want sex, so why do the majority of conditioned morons always jump to the same conclusion? Why is it constantly shown as "normal" to start pointless attempts at covering yourself with your hands, if you find yourself naked in a social context? By keeping nudity illegal, they maintain the obsession with the human body, that blinds us to the truth about us - hairless peaceful apes. Sex may be a pleasant recreational activity, but its main function is procreation, so why all the conditioned obsession with it? To keep people distracted and distractable.

Malleable sheeple will not shake off these evil profiteers from controlling our lives for their benefit. We need people who are willing to stand up for their rights as intelligent apes on a ball of rock in space. We currently have tedious, repetitive wimps : see http://jacobsm.com/anarchy.htm

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[marky 54]

nothing can be done to stop ww3, but if people are aware of whats happening or about to happen who knows... however my only point to you all along is that it WILL happen if everyone has your attitude.

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[Jane]

Hi lospomme, You wrote:

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