DNA and the pentagon

[PatrickBatemen]

basic question about the flight that hit the pentagon, i thought nearly all the passenger bodies of Flight 77 were found and matched by DNA to who boarded the flight? so doesn't that prove flight 77 went into the pentagon?

[THETRUTHWILLSETU3]

They were lying - if the official story was that the plane vaporised - there would be no dna left

[PatrickBatemen]

[Bufordt06]

The same team "identified" DNA at Shanksville, Its a fabrication. Two 6 ton engines vapourise but they still manage to identify 184 of the passengers.

[ishaar]

was listening to the popular mechanics guy being hammered on the radio, a link posted by 'Me'

http://www.911podcasts.com/files/audio/A003I060823-am-c3.MP3

the presenter points out that you need a sample of someones dna in the first place or how could you verify the id of dna on the scene, wher'd they get the original sample to do the match?

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[blackcat]

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[marky 54]

therefore the question needs answering , how did they identify the dna from the hijackers?

[marky 54]

and how did tissue survive but the huge engines didnt?

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[blackcat]

[marky 54]

anyone that can answer it this guy is so annoying, is he here just to be stupid or something. its a very reasonable question. we were told dna was found, how did they find the tissue,but there was no plane ,luggage or seats. and how can they identify dna from the hijackers unless they already had samples to match it with? sensible answers please.

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[marky 54]

[marky 54]

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[marky 54]

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[marky 54]

this guy is a total muppet. listen very carefully so you can see that the offical version is a load of nonsense. they identified almost all passengers on board. how did they do that when there was no plane left? are we suggesting flesh survives but the plane vapourises? and how did they match dna from the hijackers? this would be impossible as they would of needed samples to match them with. so why dont you just accept that they are lieing or hiding facts. there is numerous contridictions through out the whole story. planes vapourise but tissue survives, tissue survives in the wtc,but the rest of the building was destroyed to dust. i get the feeling your only here to be annoying telecastrastion. you offer nothing to a debate nothing to explain anything. your full of asumptions and critism without offering any kind of explaination to debunk or support the offical. you just telling me to except it with no reason why. give me reasons to accept the offical version, because all i can see is reasons not to. even you who believes the offical version cannot explain certain questions can you.

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[marky 54]

ok now you explained fully i can what you are saying. i agree we carnt answer it now you explained. but that is why i mention it. because if we can see it as a suspious point or a point that needs to explianed by those that told us this stroy. then we have a reason to doubt we are being told the truth and therefore needs ferther investigastion by the apprioate people to get answers. we havnt alsways got he answers but then that dosnt mean we have to. if we see something that needs answering it is not our duty to do so. the only reason we try to is because the media and goverments fail to. and again we have to ask why this is the case.

[PatrickBatemen]

i got this reply from someone whos been investigating the pentagon:

They did a mitochondrial DNA analysis because of the fire damage to the bodies. That required antecedent samples from the families. They claim to have identified all but one passenger from the aircraft that was an infant.

They claim to have identified all but 4 Pentagon workers.

The problem is there are unusual circumstances with the bodies, the transport of the bodies and the autopsy. The FBI took control of even the bodies and transported them by armed guard to Dover where the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology did the autopsies.

They had assistance from the 'bone doctors" out of the Smithsonian team. Some of the people involved also assisted in both Waco and OKC. In Waco they were busted later being deceptive about the cause of death for some of the children.

The Virginia medical examiner was so upset about her jurisdiction being overridden that she actually requested John Ashcroft write a letter authorizing it which he did.

They have the remains of the 5 "hijackers" but have never positively identified them. Those 5 remains did not match any of the family member samples. So they said those must be the hijackers. It was done through a process of exclusion. The truth is we have no idea who those 5 bodies belonged to. That is why they didn't put any names on the autopsy report to represent the "hijackers".

There is no evidence from the bodies to prove a plane hit the building. Most families never even got remains. Some personal effects were returned.

Here are some of the details on that. Read a couple of the links on the details of the autopsies and you will find it was pretty shaky.
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/093.html

[marky 54]

thanks for that information patrick.

[ishaar]

listen to the show, the shill from PM states the highjackers were id'd from DNA discovered at the site. Maybe thier toothbrushes were with the passport they found, I guess that would explain it. Or perhaps at the airport before they boarded, I mean u'd want to brush ur teeth and comb your hair before flying a plane into a building wouldn't you, hence plenty of DNA.