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| this is very confusing. i saw a plane body with no wings at all, and it was grey. its driving me crazy. how were the plane shapes made. or are the videos delibrate misinfo, made to support the npt to make us all seem stupid. i dont know what to think. but i saw what you were talking about. either way it dosnt look like a 747. |
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| marky 54 wrote: | | this is very confusing. i saw a plane body with no wings at all, and it was grey. its driving me crazy. how were the plane shapes made. or are the videos delibrate misinfo, made to support the npt to make us all seem stupid. i dont know what to think. but i saw what you were talking about. either way it dosnt look like a 747. |
Firstly, I hope it doesn't look like a 747 - as these never featured in 9/11.
Secondly, freeze the image at 43 secs and the plane is clearly angled with the nearest wing, the left one, pointing down towards the ground. This gives the illusion of 'no wings' - the speed of the plane and angle, coupled with a fairly poor image quality all combine to create the 'illusion' of no wings.
The same is true for the colour - the rendering of the image is not conducive to vibrant accurate colours.
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marky 54
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| watch the clip that starts at 7.07 the plane aproaches from distance towards the towers. and then another flying object rushes across the sky. yet i though no airforce was on the scene at that point? ive studied it loads its not a bird. what do you think. |
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| telecasterisation wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | | this is very confusing. i saw a plane body with no wings at all, and it was grey. its driving me crazy. how were the plane shapes made. or are the videos delibrate misinfo, made to support the npt to make us all seem stupid. i dont know what to think. but i saw what you were talking about. either way it dosnt look like a 747. |
Firstly, I hope it doesn't look like a 747 - as these never featured in 9/11.
Secondly, freeze the image at 43 secs and the plane is clearly angled with the nearest wing, the left one, pointing down towards the ground. This gives the illusion of 'no wings' - the speed of the plane and angle, coupled with a fairly poor image quality all combine to create the 'illusion' of no wings.
The same is true for the colour - the rendering of the image is not conducive to vibrant accurate colours. |
listen twat face i didnt say there was no plane i just agreed at 43 seconds it dosnt look like a plane. hence the words i dont know what to think. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| if you pause most of the clips as the planes aproach or impact, the wings either disapear briefly or fade and there all differant angles. what ever causes this on most videos needs to be explained in the numerous npt threads. however from watching them it was defintly the clip at 7.07 that got my attention. something moving from right to left at very high speed it even seems to leave a very slight trail, was there something in the sky we wasnt aware of? anyone know how far into the wtc attacks it took for the first airforce plane to arrive? |
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| marky 54 wrote: | | if you pause most of the clips as the planes aproach or impact, the wings either disapear briefly or fade and there all differant angles. what ever causes this on most videos needs to be explained in the numerous npt threads. however from watching them it was defintly the clip at 7.07 that got my attention. something moving from right to left at very high speed it even seems to leave a very slight trail, was there something in the sky we wasnt aware of? anyone know how far into the wtc attacks it took for the first airforce plane to arrive? |
Hi Marky,
I can't help but feel if you were to take a short break from watching crash videos and instead used the power of the internet to look up 'video field interlacing' and 'video compression - do's and don'ts' you'd save many many miles of future repetetive threads. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| marky 54 wrote: | | if you pause most of the clips as the planes aproach or impact, the wings either disapear briefly or fade and there all differant angles. what ever causes this on most videos needs to be explained in the numerous npt threads. however from watching them it was defintly the clip at 7.07 that got my attention. something moving from right to left at very high speed it even seems to leave a very slight trail, was there something in the sky we wasnt aware of? anyone know how far into the wtc attacks it took for the first airforce plane to arrive? |
It was 7:15 that I spotted traffic to the right of the short fat building. Your eye is naturally drawn to the towers but watch to the right at that point. |
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| chek wrote: | Hi Marky,
I can't help but feel if you were to take a short break from watching crash videos and instead used the power of the internet to look up 'video field interlacing' and 'video compression - do's and don'ts' you'd save many many miles of future repetetive threads. |
Would interlacing or compression really remove just the wings the wings though?
There is clearly a central blur with two blurs either side. Surely if you got it on the wrong scan there should be something where the wings should be? |
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| And what is the fast moving right to left anomally at 7:42/3? |
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| busker wrote: | | chek wrote: | Hi Marky,
I can't help but feel if you were to take a short break from watching crash videos and instead used the power of the internet to look up 'video field interlacing' and 'video compression - do's and don'ts' you'd save many many miles of future repetetive threads. |
Would interlacing or compression really remove just the wings the wings though?
There is clearly a central blur with two blurs either side. Surely if you got it on the wrong scan there should be something where the wings should be? |
The wings at that angle would be extremely thin and may have been compressed out - without knowing what camera and the threshold of the processing software, you can't be more definite.
But to me, on balance of probability, it seems more likely. |
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marky 54
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| busker wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | | if you pause most of the clips as the planes aproach or impact, the wings either disapear briefly or fade and there all differant angles. what ever causes this on most videos needs to be explained in the numerous npt threads. however from watching them it was defintly the clip at 7.07 that got my attention. something moving from right to left at very high speed it even seems to leave a very slight trail, was there something in the sky we wasnt aware of? anyone know how far into the wtc attacks it took for the first airforce plane to arrive? |
It was 7:15 that I spotted traffic to the right of the short fat building. Your eye is naturally drawn to the towers but watch to the right at that point. |
the clip starts at 7.07 and if you look carefully as the plane is just about to hit the tower a plane or something flys really fast across the middle of the video from right to left. it wasnt traffic but nice try. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| and the only reason i point it out is because i thought there was a slow air response? if it is a plane other than the ones that hit the buildings that would make it roughly 15mins into the attack. |
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Both fast moving anomalies are birds. Marky54, you can see the wings flap, just as it leaves the frame. Busker, you have to be quick to spot it, but it is a bird flying in front of the building the camera is on.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| ok if you both think its a bird then ill except the same. its to far away to be 100% though thats why i asked for an opinon. |
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| chek wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | | if you pause most of the clips as the planes aproach or impact, the wings either disapear briefly or fade and there all differant angles. what ever causes this on most videos needs to be explained in the numerous npt threads. however from watching them it was defintly the clip at 7.07 that got my attention. something moving from right to left at very high speed it even seems to leave a very slight trail, was there something in the sky we wasnt aware of? anyone know how far into the wtc attacks it took for the first airforce plane to arrive? |
Hi Marky,
I can't help but feel if you were to take a short break from watching crash videos and instead used the power of the internet to look up 'video field interlacing' and 'video compression - do's and don'ts' you'd save many many miles of future repetetive threads. |
i wasnt doubting there were planes  im just saying the clips show fading wings ect. explain what you told me to the NPT's. i was just wanting to know what the object was at 7.07 was which i will pass of as a bird. jesus christ, ruling things out im thinking or mistaking for other things is just as important than facts. howelse do i rule stuff out if i carnt ask an opinon or put my mind to rest on certain things. |
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I'd think an easy way to solve the mystery of the 'dissappearing wings' would be to compare several clips from different angles and see if the wings dissappear on all the clips at roughly the same time. If they don't we can safely assume this particular clip has had unintended (hopefully) compression occuring. Or I suppose you could also take the view that this clip is the one clip of hundreds that the Illumanti's agents didn't quite get to.
I'd do it myself but I'm currently on a work laptop and don't dare start downloading vids.
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| busker wrote: | | And what is the fast moving right to left anomally at 7:42/3? |
A bird flying nearby past the camera for fooks sake, open your eyes.
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