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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject: Galloway on Celebrity Big Brother |
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I was going to put this on my previous media thread but it seemed to risk conflating yet more threads and ideas so here goes
The tabloids are having their go at Galloway as expected, but the 'serious' press appears keen to join in
http://news.independent.co.uk/media/article337780.ece
Curses on you George for drawing me into something I've studiously avoided since watching the first BB ever
Still with regards to George, I've got to admit these Tavistock Institute-style psychologists advising CBB are quite good.
What role have they got Gorgeous George in? white-coated 'lab technician' overseeing and technically in charge on the ground of various 'psychological experiments' on behalf of BB
Now Faria seems a nice enough person, albeit a celebrity mostly for fellating a couple of FA grandees, but there she is crying after being encouraged by George to take another little bite of spinach from the cartload of spinach she has been forced to eat every quarter of an hour for two hours. "Take your cart with you- you've got to have your cart with you at all times" advises George, as she dashes to the toilet feeling sick and *
And then there's the rather innocuous young bloke Preston, who had to eat 50 something chocolate liqueuers in a given time, and was intermittently puking whist being encouraged by George to keep at it
And then there was George spokespersoning for the group against the scapegoated and isolated boobs-out lady Jodie
Am I making too much fuss on this?
Do I find it mad that genuine if mild torture is being carried out on British TV presided over by Galloway on behalf of a showtime Big Brother
Is this not something a little worse than the fictional justification of torture on '24' and 'Spooks'?
And George Galloway is white-coated and in control of all these little 'experiments', and going along with it in the style redolent of those Stamford University (?) torture experiments of yore, only he can see the suffering is real? This big antiwar anti-establishment rebel?
And then we've got that keynoting Lycopodium (for homeopathy fans) Michael Barrymore, playing it large for the crowd and booing in private and in confessional with BB, and he's got a weird history where that body that ended in his swimming pool was apparently violently sodomised after it arrived in the hospital mortuary
Apologies if I'm promoting the trivial here, but this dark surreal mind-* is being promulgated to quite a number of the ignorant, and from passing discussions with some of these people they have no idea what is going on
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who murdered di ? Minor Poster
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:17 pm Post subject: Tavistock |
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You write, "Still with regards to George, I've got to admit these Tavistock Institute-style psychologists advising CBB are quite good. " But `dh` these Tavistock Institute-style psychologosts must submit to if you see dead people then you are delusional and/or hallucinating ! ! ! Hence why Sigmund Freud changed his belief from paranormal beliefs to delusions of the belief of the paranormal as tavistock ("government") paid him large grants to change his "opnions" ! |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:24 am Post subject: |
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I haven't watched CBB but given that any political content is being editted out, the Gorgeous one seems to have scored an own goal on this one. I see v little benefit and a lot of risk from him appearing on the show |
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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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ian neal wrote: | I haven't watched CBB but given that any political content is being editted out, the Gorgeous one seems to have scored an own goal on this one. I see v little benefit and a lot of risk from him appearing on the show |
I'd never have done this before now, but I commend you to watch CBB just to watch George's acquiescence in the freakshow. He seems to be becoming best mates with the abhorrent Barrymore.
As Germaine Greer says "The worst bully - so vain that he doesn't realise how savagely he is being cut down to size by Big Brother - is George Galloway"
I always suspected George because of his eulogising to his face at least of Saddam and that he lingered so long in an essentially fascist party till he got booted
Still, I admired many things about him, like his stance over Iraq of course, and his standing up to the Senate committee and so on
Now, having witnessed his connivance with Endemol, and utter commitment to playing their cruel cruel games, I regard him as nothing more than a self-aggrandising prick
I suspect we shall see many replays of his role play as a kitten purring up to Rula Lenska, every time he tries to say something serious in future
Well, I relish the cringeworthiness of it. He's been bought and sold |
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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hi wmd, I've pondered your comment a number of times and still dont quite get it
Still I ponder my little vial of salvia and hope to join you on that plane soon |
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spockpanda New Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with what you said about CBB dh.
What you described (what went on) was utterly abhorrent. The Media's complete failure to condemn this speaks volumes. _________________ always yrying to find out what the media dont want us to hear |
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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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spockpanda wrote: | I agree with what you said about CBB dh.
What you described (what went on) was utterly abhorrent. The Media's complete failure to condemn this speaks volumes. |
Welcome spockpanda. I note you start where the subject matter is becoming more diverse, unfortunately in one particular case, though I might not help matters
Still this thread does have ramifications for the general credulity of the antiwar side of this as tokenised by George.
Lets give George the possibility of credit, since he's being hammered from all sides of the media. He may have a longer-term game plan and yet turn out to be a finalist and a darling of the British public. This is unlikely to happen without many false ploys and manipulations of fellow contestants, which may be necessary to defeat BB
We saw the start of this by his summoning up of the Spartacus rebellion in order to defeat one BB game, and eventually being successful
He was also described by Pete, who had earlier nominated him for eviction, and who can be forgiven much for his straight stereotypical acting out of his deeply assumed role, as the "backbone of the group"
God, this is bloody madness discussing this stuff at this depth on this forum
Still I believe it's relevant. After all we did see George in his Dracula fancy dress with a fake blood drool descending from his lips, commending the British public for throwing out some Page Three tart whilst allowing a left-wing antiwar MP stay in
Hey George, surely drooling vampires are a better symbol of those in actual charge of the staged events and resultant mass death and mayhem, that seems to keep them so vibrant
I'm sure the irony isn't lost on you
Also worthy of consideration is Georges role in the cigars-for-fags bartering - redolent somehow of IranContra dealings of yesteryear
This is getting long and I'm sure to those who resolutely refuse to indulge in this media mentalfest as confusing as one of those Solvent and Calligula submissions
To sum up briefly:
David Icke was invited to join last years CBB, but managed to suss out from his talks with the producers,that his ideas about 911 and the real organisation of the world and the reality constructs and so on would be censored, and also that he would be edited to appear in the worst possible light. He turned down the invitation
Germaine Greer accepted the invitation but took the walk when she realised what she was being drawn into.
Let's hope George is using some vestige of political nous and will surprise everyone
Anyway, cheers, spockpanda, I really feel we ought to get away from this ephemeral frivolity back to some core issues, but I fear it mightn't happen for a few days yet |
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conspiracy analyst Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:37 am Post subject: Isn't Endemol partly funded by the Guardian? |
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Taking into account his stalinist past to volunteer to go into Big Brother is no big leap. Which work environment has George ever worked in apart from Parliament? Toying the line and following the rules were part of his 35 year career in the Labour Party. He was booted out, he didn't create a split. As such Big Brother is his right place, following rules. The only one so far with any inkling of undermining the house is Pete. George may have got frightened since his appearance at the US Senate. They may have threatened him if they aren't planning worse as two Labour MP's have died recently. |
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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:01 am Post subject: Re: Isn't Endemol partly funded by the Guardian? |
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conspirator wrote: | They may have threatened him if they aren't planning worse as two Labour MP's have died recently. |
So George is hiding in the house in full view to avoid or delay visitation of the fate of Cook and Banks? I like it
I'd agree that with his own false image created in cut up 3D, that Pete is the most real person
How trashy can this get? |
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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I hate to go on about this trivial *, and I'm lagging way behind having had more interesting things to do, still I'm trying to keep up with George's case because he does or did have some kind of meaningful position in the antiwar movement, and drawn by Alex Jones in interview, did appear to concede that the Bush regime could initiate further 'terror attacks' to further their agenda and so on
So why did George in the last nominations finger former Baywatch babe Traci?
Because of her "extreme vegetarianism". Not only meat, but milk, eggs, cheese are excluded. wtf she's virtually a vegan . And this at a time of manipulated shortage of food supply.
How disloyal to the group!
These 'extremists' must be dealt with
I look forward to George's vision of the collective society coming to fruition
Not so different to the current manifestation
And this before the twisted racism conundrum which was even more beautiful to behold
Perhaps I'll pester you with that in due course |
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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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I thought to let this absurd thread die a natural death so ignore it by all means
But there is some meaning within the BB household
The scenario revealed on tonights show was almost magical in its subtext hype
The two youngest members of the household, representing those to whom George most hoped to appeal, were serendiptously picked out to play 'Banking Executives' in a Bankers game. These had a 'secret club' which they werent allowed to reveal to the other housemates
On the other hand the other housemates had video knowledge of the 'secret club' which they weren't allowed to acknnowledge to those two
The two instantly created sides were instructed to play games, the rewards of which created absolute conflict as to the results
You'd have to have watched it to understand this
Anyway the subtext is
Chief Bankers presented as manipulating lying b******
Executive Bankers as Jews
Bankers having an exclusive secret club (Bohemians) and lying to defer knowledge of its existence
Multi-sexual level sharp-witted Pete (Illuminati in this context - even the tongue does the snake thing over those ruby red accidental lips with the constant protrusion) winds the common bankers up against the brazen hard-faced lying executives = Jews especially to his good mate George
In the eventual exposure, George (equals Arab-loving thus Jew-hating) condemns Preston and Chantelle as shifty-eyed lying manipulative scum of the worst kind, and then George feels compelled also to turn on the somewhat offensive Barrymore in a way that leaves one feeling Barrymore is almost saintlike
George has proved himself so easily manipulated within this microcosmic environment, that he seems most easily transferable to the fascist context, which lets Blair off the hook amongst those bleakly accepting the subliminal message
This is important because guilt by association
The conspiracists must build away from the left-wing war movement because it is so open to the game
We must thank Endemol for demonstrating this |
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Justin 9/11 Truth Organiser
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: |
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I have watched BB very occasionally just on the off chance of seeing Galloway in action - and the other night I did by chance, wearing his blue, skin-tight all-in-one leotard. Oh God what a fool! Personally I can't stand 'celebrities' and I certainly can't stomach voyeurism reality shows where the producers go out of their way to set people against other people just for our entertainment. As far as I am concerned Gorgeous George has burnt his bridges with the 9/11 Truth Movement. I sent him a copy of In Plane Site back in September 2004 with a detailed covering letter and his response, after badgering him for one for over six weeks with e-mails, was that he didn't have a DVD player and that I was wasting my time. I don't like being rude about someone, but he is nothing but a self seeking, bullying individual with whom we should have absolutely nothing to do with. _________________ Connect to Infinite Consciousness - enjoy the ride! |
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Ally Moderate Poster
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Anyone see Icke on Wogan last night? Now that's what I call a solid performance.
Made Terry look like an utter doil.
Rock on David. |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
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insidejob Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: Galloway is not the target |
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There is a media campaign against Galloway but the target isn’t Galloway.
You can tell this because Labour Chief Whip, Hilary Armstrong, put a motion against Galloway in the Commons. She complained that he couldn’t do his job because he was in the Big Brother House. The motion was thrown out. But she must have known it would be. That is, the motion was a public relations exercise. This is evidence of a planned media campaign against Galloway rather than spontaneous anger.
What is the likely outcome of the media attacks? People who don’t like him will continue not to like him. People, who support him, despite reservations, will continue to support him. But his appearance will raise his profile among ‘non-political’ young people. This is what they fear. But also the attacks may have an effect on other MPs, political leaders and the public. The campaign tells political leaders that this is what will happen to you if you oppose our agenda. It keeps them in line. The campaign also promotes fear among the general public so that they don’t support people like Galloway.
The media will become an important tactic for the elite to control future party politics. Their political agenda is to create a ‘centre’ party that promotes neo-liberal policies. That is, a reconfiguration of party politics with Labour, Tories and Lib Deems splitting and creating a new party. David Cameron is the first step in that agenda. The elite wants the rest of us to have no choice other than voting for this party. They the party to stay in power for a generation.
But nonetheless, there is likely to be a Left party with union support that could win significant support from the public. Therefore, the elite have to create means to stop people from backing the Left party. The media is one tactic and hence the attack on Galloway.
The other is the attacks on civil liberties and the growth of a surveillance society. The elite has to demonstrate to the public that authoritarian means will be used against out-groups. These out-groups are campaigners, the Left, dissidents, union activists, poor people, black people and people who occasionally campaign against the Government on issues such as airport runways or fathers’ rights. The elite wants to get rid of liberal means of dealing with such groups and use authoritarian means. But the point is to have the public see that they can get away with authoritarian means. Thus, people who protest against the arms trade get an Asbo. People who read the names of the Iraq dead near Parliament (without a licence) are arrested. If the Left group does public campaigning the elite uses police state tactics to stop them. The elite then tells the public that they are being watched. This instils fear among the public who then will seek to distance themselves from such groups.
The elite have given up on Galloway. They tried smearing him once and it backfired spectacularly. It only made him popular in the US and won others over in the UK. We see that The Daily Telegraph lost their attempt to reverse the £150,000 libel award. The Guardian (The Guardian is a * awful paper) comes up with this phoney front page about Serious Fraud Squad investigation. If they had serious evidence against him, the senator Galloway humiliated would be shouting about it from the rooftops. That is, they know they are fighting a losing battle against Galloway. But, it’s other political leaders and the rest of us that they want to whip into shape.
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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That's a super analysis - thanks!
Do you have any idea or thoughts as to how he was cajoled or encouraged to go on BB? Or was it simply for that money stuff again? _________________ Andrew
Ask the Tough Questions, Folks! |
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insidejob Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: Galloway |
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I heard Galloway's media adviser late last night on Radio 5 Live. She gave a position view of Galloway's BB effort. She said he was reaching young people, although she didn't give much evidence for this. She said a series of public meetings was being organised for GG.
I think his media adviser suggest he go on it. I remember Clinton sought to avoid the bias, editoiralising and mediation of the US national press and their commentators by going to local newspapers, who'd be less critical of him. I think this is the strategy.
I saw a blog of an Oxford Labour Party member. She was scathing of GG. But half the comments were supportive and half attacked him.
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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:10 am Post subject: |
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Ally wrote: | Anyone see Icke on Wogan last night? Now that's what I call a solid performance.
Made Terry look like an utter doil.
Rock on David. |
Yeah, well a bravado performance within the curtailment of the Wogan format
There is the sense that you would have to have a grasp of the background to know what he was on about, though the audience reaction indicates otherwise
Certainly a mark in Davids favour way above George
Thank god he's out |
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