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DeFecToR Moderate Poster
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DeFecToR Moderate Poster
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:10 am Post subject: |
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Lol
He even mentions the Larry Silverstein clip. _________________ "A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
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Ignatz Moderate Poster
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: |
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J: "I see smoke"
"Does the top go first? No the bottom"
wrong - the E Penthouse goes first. He hasn't seen that. Most of the videos don't show it as they're filmed from low down
J: "Then they worked hard.... very rigorously, very quickly placed charges ... They had the piece of luck that since there was already very much destroyed ... you have to plan your weakenings very carefully ... maybe they used packet charges instead of all the cutting torch work plus applying a linear cutter charge .... it was not very clean .. there were walls 13-14 floors high still standing "
Other guy: "No it was very clean"
J: "I can show you that on the internet.."
(correct)
Guy: "It was so clean you could walk round it"
Yep - clean as a whistle
(from http://mceer.buffalo.edu/publications/wtc vol 1)
J: (points out bit still standing)
Guy: "That's from a different building"
J: (totally mystified .... loooong pause)
Guy:" Only building 7 collapsed cleanly with all the walls inside"
this is an outright lie The Verizon building next door also got hit by #7 - photos available on the link above. Note these are not parts of WTC 1+2
J: "A charge in an H beam, you only have to drill 2 holes, in the middle a cutter charge, 2 skew and you do that again below, a pressure charge against it.."
Guy "How long would it take.."
J: ".. cutting torch guys have to do something .. place all pipes and all wires .. 30 or 40 men ... "
Jowenko avoids answering the question
note: all this work would be done in burning building, which initiallyhad firefighters inside
<next film, discussing possible damage>
Guy: " ... it (#7) was slightly damaged on the outside.."
Really? How would he know that? The firemen say otherwise
Need we go on with this charade Def ??
Jowenko was ruthlessly led at every stage, and blatantly lied to many times.
Even so, his reluctance to agree with the guy's position was crystal clear. _________________ So remember - next time you can't find a parking spot, go to plan B: blow up your car |
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Bicnarok Moderate Poster
Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Posts: 334 Location: Cydonia
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Ignatz, some good points made there.
I found him unconvincing. _________________ "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our mind..." Bod Marley |
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DeFecToR Moderate Poster
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Could spend ages going through this, but comments made on other topics have reinforced the pointless nature of trying to coax blood from a stone (truth from a critic). _________________ "A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
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Jay Ref Moderate Poster
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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DeFecToR wrote: | Could spend ages going through this, but comments made on other topics have reinforced the pointless nature of trying to coax blood from a stone (truth from a critic). |
So DeFicaToR, since Jowenko is also 100% that the twin towers were not CD'd are you finally going to accept that they were not CD'd?
If not...why not?
-z _________________ "Knowledge is good"
-Emil Faber
"God in heaven. Here's the hard-headed, evidence-only freak who will not, like we CTers, indulge himself in self-inflating, utterly misconceived fantasies." -kbo234 (who is NOT a nazi) briefly makes sense |
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DeFecToR Moderate Poster
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Jay Ref wrote: | DeFecToR wrote: | Could spend ages going through this, but comments made on other topics have reinforced the pointless nature of trying to coax blood from a stone (truth from a critic). |
So DeFicaToR, since Jowenko is also 100% that the twin towers were not CD'd are you finally going to accept that they were not CD'd?
If not...why not?
-z |
Because Jay Lord, i'm far too busy emptying my bowelssssssssseeerrrgghh. _________________ "A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
-William James |
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