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prole art threat
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| prole art threat wrote: | | iro wrote: | | prole are you capable of intelligent thought? |
Yes. And Proud! |
Iro, I actually thought you had asked If I was 'incapable' of intelligent thought. So, I will attempt to answer your question again.
No. And Proud!
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| prole art threat wrote: | | Chomsky was a Zionist activist in his youth. Come on Iro, this so called intellectual cant grasp the Kennedy assassination or 9/11 has being 'inside jobs'. So, he is either incredibly stupid or he's a shill. Which is it? |
Chomsky stupid? Never!
Chomsky a Zionist in his youth? Very possibly. I don't hold that against him. I have Jewish friends who were Zionist in their youths but are very anti-Zionist now.
Chomsky a brilliant innovative analytical linguist? Undoubtedly.
Chomsky human, and like many humans has a blind spot? Possibly.
Chomsky a shill? Possibly.
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IronSnot
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| But very, very unlikely. |
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iro
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thats the bog standard and endlessly reproduced 'article' that everyone references about chomsky being a shill just because it was put up on rense.com and alex jones loved it.
its absolutely 100% conjecture and assumption and opinion presented as fact...
the first and only place you should go if you want to say something about chomsky is to his own books / articles. |
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brian
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| iro wrote: |
thats the bog standard and endlessly reproduced 'article' that everyone references about chomsky being a shill just because it was put up on rense.com and alex jones loved it.
its absolutely 100% conjecture and assumption and opinion presented as fact...
the first and only place you should go if you want to say something about chomsky is to his own books / articles. |
iro, your reasoning is suspect here.
Chomsky is in denial re Sept 11, that is fact.
Are you saying the quotes attributed to Chomsky in the article are - "..absolutely 100% conjecture and assumption and opinion..."
Why not criticise the articles content rather than make sweeping statements that have nothing backing them up? To say the article is endlessly reproduced - "because it was put up on rense.com and alex jones loved it." - seems petty and pointless.
I do not accept all the criticisms in the article but consider many of the quotes and claims worthy of consideration. I also think the contention that many of the so called leftists are nothing more than window dressing is worthy of consideration.
As for the first and only place to go being Chomsky's books - that is largely what the article is about - what Chomsky does not say in his books/articles. Often the biggest lie is what is left unsaid. |
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iro
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oh dont get me wrong i accept 100% chomsky is the premier left gatekeeper.. but that article is awful journalism and i detest it on that premise.
i have seen it far too many times - i was more aiming at a kind of 'oh change the record' tone |
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Rabbie McM
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I had reserved judgement with Chomsky, but after reading your link Brian here is a paragraph that damns Chomsky:
Chomsky is one of the many re-direct agents who use the real environmental pollution problems to push for a fascist takeover by a world government. Much like the ideas discussed in the Report From Iron Mountain, he uses the threat of global warming to justify totalitarian control:
"Suppose it was discovered tomorrow that the greenhouse effects has been way understimated, and that the catastrophic effects are actually going to set in 10 years from now, and not 100 years from now or something. Well, given the state of the popular movements we have today, we’d probably have a fascist takeover-with everybody agreeing to it, because that would be the only method for survival that anyone could think of. I’d even agree to it, because there’s just no other alternatives right now." (Understanding Power, 388)
Here is Noam Chomsky, openly advocating a fascist takeover because the ends justify the means. This is classic problem-reaction-solution programming, as he points to the real threat of pollution and then offers the solution of tyranny
That is a terrible statement to make. I'm afraid it also goes along way to show Mr Chomsky as a shillaber.
This is no dry matter, as in debating 9-11 with those even more neophyte than myself: several have brought up Chomsky. He is a gatekeeper and a half! |
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| Quote: | | Well, given the state of the popular movements we have today, |
Perhaps indicating this may have been presented a teensy bit out of context?
I don't have that book - perhaps someone who does should maybe look at the whole page before denouncing him as a nazi?
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| That article on Chomsky is fairly nonsense. He isnt perfect but who is? Just look at the infomation on peak oil in the article - utter garbage. |
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