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andrewwatson Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: New member asks: why the newsmedia silence? |
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It is astonishing that a Google search of the terms ''911'' and ''cover-up'' yields 241,000 hits. whereas the same search on Google News produces just 3 results. None are from mass news media.
Is the entire press and broadcast media in the control of the Bush govt.? |
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sonic Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:36 am Post subject: Is the whole media in control of the US Govt? |
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You need to ask Rupert!!!
Best wishes,
Sonic |
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1919 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Hi Andrew,
It's amazing isn't it? My answer would be that it's a question of censorship and self censorship and a kind of smugness. (I think Jeremy Paxman is a good example - he is very intelligent and will be quite stiff in questioning people - he did quite well with Colin Powell recently). However, for him to face up to the fact that WTC 7 was demolished with explosives will be quite tricky ("How could I have missed this?" he will think - even if only subconciously). This prevents people from accepting the evidence and therefore from it being covered.
There is almost certainly masonic control or some version of this as well, if you ask me (others may disagree). _________________ Andrew
Ask the Tough Questions, Folks! |
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andrewwatson Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:39 am Post subject: |
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I had a small success this morning. Sent email to a Nevada radio talk show
called Wake Up America and got a detailed reply from the main producer. Her main concern was cross-border immigration but she admitted that there were lots of questions about 911. She knew about the Pentagon 'crash' and also about the Silverstein quote. I basically sent her the whole of David Ray Griffin 's latest piece on the oral histories of 911. Her line was that it was too shocking to handle.
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1959 Location: South London
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: Re: Is the whole media in control of the US Govt? |
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sonic wrote: | You need to ask Rupert!!!
Best wishes,
Sonic |
Who is this Rupert that we need to ask? Michael Ruppert, Rupert Bear, or someone less cuddly?
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Ally Moderate Poster
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 909 Location: banned
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:50 am Post subject: |
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andrewwatson wrote: | Her main concern was cross-border immigration but she admitted that there were lots of questions about 911.... Her line was that it was too shocking to handle.
Andrew W |
Gosh, another spineless media shill, can't face the real world so takes out her insecurities on foreigners from the third world. Wake up fool! Your government is the enemy!
Noel wrote: | Who is this Rupert that we need to ask? Michael Ruppert, Rupert Bear, or someone less cuddly? |
Murdoch I pressume. |
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1959 Location: South London
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: New member asks: why the newsmedia silence? |
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andrewwatson wrote: | It is astonishing that a Google search of the terms ''911'' and ''cover-up'' yields 241,000 hits. whereas the same search on Google News produces just 3 results. None are from mass news media.
Is the entire press and broadcast media in the control of the Bush govt.? |
Strikes me that the Bush government and the broadcast media are in the control of the same unseen powerful forces. Why do they comply?
Fear?
Fear of losing their jobs?
Fear of damaging their reputations?
Fear of ridicule?
Fear of damaging reprisals which may include death threats? We have anecdotal accounts of 911 campaigners experiencing death threats or possible attempts on their lives or on their loved ones.
Then there are bribes. A salary from news organisations is a kind of bribe.
It stands to reason that anyone who would perpetrate such a brutal crime as 911 would be prepared to use brutal methods to cover it up. There seems to be plenty evidence of networks of the rich and powerful (including upper echelons of the Freemasons and other societies which indulge in secret rituals and blood-curdling oaths) through which threats could be delivered. Moreover, the rich can afford to hire clever assassins when necessary.
But we need to remember that behind the scenes, as well as people working for evil (for power over the world) there are also behind the scenes powerful people acting for good (for empowerment of ordinary people, for understanding, for selflessness, for justice, for sharing, for co-operation, for peace, for truth, for love).
The current tactic of the powers that be, seems to be to allow people to discuss this crime on the web where it can be dismissed as crazy internet chatter, but to keep it out of the mainstream media. Though current discussion about the need to censor the web in order to protect us from child molesters and *Muslim fanatics/terrorists*, suggests the PTB are beginning to realise the Internet is being taken more and more seriously as a source of news and therefore must be controlled.
But we will not give in to fear.
Noel
"Take heed, dear Friends, to the promptings of love and truth in your hearts." - Quaker Advices and Queries |
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sonic Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: Who is this Rupert? |
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You got it right Ally - Rupert Murdoch.
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Ally Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Check out this from Graham, outlines endemic corruption at the highest level of society. Gives a good picture of they sickos who pulled of 9/11(at a pathological level). Everyone must check this out if not seen. Anyone got the full 8hour interview?
Too much talk is spent on how it was done and not who IMO.
I will start with suspect number 1 - the US military under the auspices of Rockefeller. |
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andrewwatson Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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What is interesting is that this radio producer believed that the govt. could well be behind the wtc attacks , but had not dared to say so. Strange that she was prepared to tell me, a total stranger. She did say that it was a former FBI man who had told her that he thought the Pentagon was hit by a missile, and that all the security videos were missing including one across the street. |
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andrewwatson Moderate Poster
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yesterday I sent emails to the Guardian Analysis Editor and the Independent Foreign News desk, each containing a list of leading sites such as the Steven E. Jones lecture and Griffin. I also wrote to Robert Fisk. I have had no response as yet from the first two. |
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D E A N New Poster
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:02 am Post subject: |
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What did Robert Fisk say? |
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andrewwatson Moderate Poster
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: |
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He hasn't replied yet - maybe he is out of the country.
Yesterday on a trip to London I stopped off at Houseman's bookshop in King' Cross, where I expected to find some stuff about 911. It is well-known for its links with the Peace movement. Amid all the posters about Iraq there was nothing at all on 911. Can anyone explain why the Socialist Left and the Stop the War Coalition are ignoring - or ignorant of - this crucial issue? I have emailed the latter for a clarification of their stance on 911. |
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Pikey Banned
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1491 Location: North Lancashire
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Ty New Poster
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 3 Location: London
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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I dont think its to do with fear of work loss, or the opinion to accept an idea of conspiracy.
It is about control and the race to get to the top. The corporate world controls the Gov. Its called globalization. They will make money off of this. _________________ WWW.OSIRISUK.COM - "The truth shall be shown through knowledge" - Osiris
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andrewwatson Moderate Poster
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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There is a line between healthy scepticism and paranoia. I try to stay well within that line. Believing that there are double agents within the protest movement and the political left is sensible and sane. Believing that there is not one person in the peace movement who is not a neocon plant is in the same category as talk of secret societies and devil worship , and ultimately makes us all look ridiculous.
Sorry to be so blunt . I will accept that I could of course be wrong. |
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Ty New Poster
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 3 Location: London
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Thats what i think, that secret societies make us look ridicuous. BUTTT!!!!! (Then again, maybe they want everyone to think that) It's no secret at all.
This is a society of people who are after money, and it is not a secret. They have left enough evidence behind to pick up the breadcrums back to their criminal intentions. Just remember, that everything is money orientated. Whatever you do, it is powered by money. And they made alot of it after Sept 11th. Dont forget that, there are societies out there, one of them makes no secret of it. It is the Bush Administration. _________________ WWW.OSIRISUK.COM - "The truth shall be shown through knowledge" - Osiris |
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freddie Moderate Poster
Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 202 Location: London
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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TY,
I agree that money plays a huge part in all this, the insurance scam, the insider trading, the madate for expanded military and secret service expenditure, oil and construction grabs etc.., but I also think 'power' is often seperate from money.
The fear created by the 'terror threat' enables these people to tighten control in so many areas, control that all the money in the world couldn't buy. That's the trick, they get us to accept it and ultimately because of our representational democracy, we mandate these people and their actions.
I suppose my point here is that they couldn't 'pay-off' all of us, so they gain power, manipulate our minds and ultimately get away with murder because of our political systems. |
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andrewwatson Moderate Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:27 am Post subject: |
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I had a reply from Robert Fisk today. Rather than publish his views , I would be happy to tell bona fide members in an email. |
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Annie 9/11 Truth Organiser
Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 830 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Andrew
Have a look in the Articles section of the forum at a piece called "More attacks on press freedom". It's rather relevent to this discussion.
Also could you send me Fisk's reply? I can be found at anniemachon@yahoo.co.uk.
Thanks
Annie _________________ All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing - Edmund Burke.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem Americanam appellant - Tacitus Redactus. |
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Ian Editor
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 68 Location: Oxford
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: BBC and Charlie Sheen censorship |
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One way of broaching the 9/11 censorship issue with people is to consider the case of Charlie Sheen. Even the most ardent believer in the official story might have their eyebrows raised by the following.
If you search the BBC for 'Charlie Sheen', you get plenty of articles about his turbulent private life, but none whatsoever about his views on 9/11.
These articles are the ones I could find after his March 2006 interview on the Alex Jones Radio Show.
Sheen 'must stay away from wife'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4936388.stm
Sunday, 23 April 2006
Actor Sheen denies abusing wife
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4937850.stm
Monday, 24 April 2006
Sheen restraining order extended
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4770759.stm
Sunday, 14 May 2006
So, after mentioning this to people, ask them if they think it odd that Charlie Sheen's turbulent private life is deemed newsworthy by the BBC, but that his outspoken comments on 9/11 are not?
If they should have any doubts, refer them to these two articles, which amply show that the BBC does deem Hollywood celebrities and their political views / actions newsworthy, so long as they're 'supporting the troops'.
Actor Willis' $1m Saddam bounty
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3141942.stm
Friday, 26 September, 2003
Williams entertains Iraq troops
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3326751.stm
Wednesday, 17 December, 2003
I like to think of ways in which we can 'preach' to the 'unconverted'. Perhaps one of the first steps for people who are adamantly opposed to even the lowest dosage of 9/11 Truth is to get them to question that most sacred of institutions... the mainstream media generally, and specifically the BBC.
After the Hutton Inquiry especially, I have friends who swear that the BBC is at loggerheads with the government. Perhaps these few links might help make them think, at least in terms of what the BBC does and does not report.
One problem is however, that they probably won't even be aware that Charlie Sheen even expressed views doubting the offfical conspiracy theory of 9/11.
Like the 9/11 Commision Report, the BBC largely omits what it can get away with omitting, and often distorts what it is forced to report. _________________ "The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, 'just to keep people frightened'."
1984, George Orwell. |
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paul wright Moderator
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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I like your idea Ian, very effective method.
Do we have any channels of redress with the BBC - I know we can register complaints based on content but can we complain about ommissions ?
I was reading their editorial policy yesterday and their stated aims of impartiality sound fine but as we know the reality is often very different.
Cheers |
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alwun Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Andrew,
I,d also appreciate a look at Fisk's reply. Thanks.. alwun@it.st |
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