Bloody good message this!

[Icke knows the score]

9/11 message of an ex-Marine to the anti-war movement - one it's about time they bloody listened to ...

'It saddens and angers me that so many people in the antiwar movement refuse to examine the evidence of 9/11. We should ask them to do at least one thing. Watch the movie we just saw, 911mysteries. And if after watching it, they still want to continue believing the official BS, so be it.

But for people to say that they want peace and at the same time adamantly deny the direct connection between 9/11 and the current wars is irresponsible. Many anti-war people unquestioningly accept the official version, without even looking at the overwhelming evidence which the 9/11 Truth movement has laboriously collected over the years.'

Hallelujah

[Wokeman]

IKTS,
In fact, many individuals in the StW movement support what we say. The leadership is however, very antagonistic towards us.

[insidejob]

[Andrew Johnson]

I had a (slightly unexpected) brief encounter with Derby Stop The War people earlier this year. I gave about 5 or 6 members DVD's. I've never heard from them since (my e-mail address was on each DVD).

[hampton]

i find less hostility from the members recently.
they seem to at least listen now.
especially if you use the 'facts they dont know' approach.
if they then call you a conspiracy theorist you can say 'you're jumping to conclusions, i'm just stating facts'

they carry banners saying 'george bush - world's no.1 terrorist', but he wouldn't hurt his own people. he only likes to kill foreigners. but wait a minute america's full of foreigners...

i wonder why the stw management is hostile?
they're either stupid, scared that people will find out they're stupid or agents of darkness.

besides they only want to stop this war.
they think war is ok if the un approve it.
so i think the latter is more likely.

any movement, that large, which doesn't have regular demos has got to be questioned.
it's just a valve to let off steam. it gives people the illusion of freedom & democracy.
and you've only got to look at the events of 9/10/06 at parliament sq to see we don't have either.

[insidejob]

I'm now going to argue that:
i. in supporting the British Intelligence Service position of stating that radicalised Muslims want to use terrrorism to revenge Western actions in the Middle East, the Left is supporting the Neo-Con agenda. The elite is not offering their public a change in their policy and actions, they are offering attacks against Muslims and attacks on civil liberties. The public will accept this.
ii. the Left protest strategy is not working. Despite their hard working in organising the largest march in the UK, the Iraq war still happened and was recently followed up with Blair supporting the attack in Lebanon. The only way to stop what's happening is to discredit 911.

insidejob

[xmasdale]

[Dogsmilk]

[THETRUTHWILLSETU3]

It is not by chance that the stop the war group is a lot bigger than 911 truth.

They are a controlled opposition, just as friends of the earth greenpeace etc are.

[xmasdale]

[Light Infantree]

To use the Ickeberg's wonderful way of illustrating people's behaviour: this whole issue is to do with individuals living in the 'Hassel-Free-Zone'. From within this 'zone' (which is simply a state of mind) anything said or done outside of 'normal' get quashed, people are very aware of this and don't step outside the zone through fear.

Those who are involved with the StW and have who have issues with dealing with the real 9/11 information have got wake up on two seperate levels. Firstly it is nesessary for them to understand that they are putting up barriers to anything other than information that they deem as 'safe' so that the the people around them will still buy them a pint and secondly they have then got to make up their own minds about the actual information. That is quite rightly up to them. But this information must be viewed or read free from any outside influence or pressure (like any information should be)

Some people are like bloody birds of paradise mating, one feather out of place and nothing going to happen. Catch them at the right moment though, and new eggs will surely follow

The laugh here, (its an ironic one ) is that without confronting this information the whole issue of the war is a complete and utter pile of pants. By denying themselves the chance to learn and make an informed choice these guys are wasting an awful lot of energy and playing into the hands of the very people who they are campaigning against. The emperor has no clothes but if I stare with these shades on it looks like hes wearing underpants. Mmm much more respectable.

[John White]

And this reminds me of another "Ickeism"

[Dogsmilk]

Xmasdale -

[hampton]

[Dogsmilk]

Hampton:

[hampton]

if you do detailed research into most areas of corruption and criminality you see the same names popping up again and again.

you must ask yourself why society is cursed by greed and hierarchy.
this is compartmentalisation. you can't keep 6 billion+ people in physical chains so you create a mental & emotional prison.
keep them so busy they don't have time to think. give them endless choices (shades of grey) & celebrity gossip
to give the illusions of personal & press freedom.
this is a system that has been perfected over 100s of years, coodinated by secret societies.
therefore the systems we see all around us, even those that seem democratic, have been created to the same agenda.
it's difficult to name these people & groups because they prefer to remain in the shadows.
wouldn't you if you were up to no good?. ask yourself, why would criminals stay out of government?
as to what they want: total control over their human slaves who they are desperately trying to reduce in number, using
wars, disease, pollution, etc. before enough of them realise what's going on.

a few facts:
between 800,000 to 2 million freemasons in britain alone;
george w bush & john kerry both members of skull & bones (video evidence available);
federal reserve (usa central bank) is a private banking cartel;
bilderberg group has a steering group including ken clarke (uk conservative & always on the telly)
& henry kissinger (war criminal extraordinaire who i've heard was supposed to stand trial on 911)
who was, incidently, appointed by bush to head the 911 commission until he had to resign;

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=kissinger+trial+911&meta=

tony blair & thatcher attended bilderberg before becoming pm (on the parliamentary record);
and to think, people who mentioned the bilderberg group 10 years ago were labelled crazy conspiracy theorists;
cocacola, ford & ig farben buildings in nazi germany were not bombed;
donald rumsfeld used to work for searle pharma before helping to approve their aspartame poison;
fluoride first used in drinking water in nazi concentration camps & it wasn't to keep their teeth healthy
(it's a by product of the aluminium industry);
cocacola are literally killing people around the world (they've been banned from several universities) but are still allowed to trade;
the eu hasn't had it's accounts audited for years and is ruled by the undemocratic european council;
the un is controlled by uk/usa. they have their hq in new york on land which used to be a slaughter house,
donated by the rockerfellas;
the carlyle group (arms dealers) was setup by george bush (senior) and has john major (ex uk pm) on the payroll;
the bush / bin laden business connections;
george bush (senior) said on Sept 11, 1990 "out of these troubled times...the new world order can emerge"

i could go on, but i hope you get the point.

[Icke knows the score]

Until we all unite under the fact that all these events are connected we won't get anywhere.