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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: Brazil's sugar crop fuels nation's cars |
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Amazing stuff ........... Yeast is added and a simple process of turning sugar into alcohol produces the fuel of the future. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4715332.stm |
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ian crane wrote: | Would someone please explain to President Bush that the "peak oil" theory is a classic energy resource hoax? |
Exxon Mobil has been running adverts to counter the peak oil movement. What is going on? Bush says one thing, Exxon says another.
http://www.exxonmobil.com/Corporate/Files/Corporate/OpEd_peakoil.pdf |
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For all peak-oilers, why not sign up on this site?
http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: Kids Build Soybean-Fueled Car |
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The five kids, along with a handful of schoolmates, built the soybean-fueled car as an after-school project. It took them more than a year — rummaging for parts, configuring wires and learning as they went. As teacher Simon Hauger notes, these kids weren't exactly the cream of the academic crop http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/17/eveningnews/main1329941.shtm l |
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:03 am Post subject: |
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None of us can be sure either way. I think that IF the PO scenario is a scam the implications are going to be exactly the same for us little people as if it were real. So, we should all prepare ourselves as best we can. Hopefully the scarcity (real or not) will force proper research into alternatives. Its pretty obvious that certain groups have suppressed these technologies until now and perhaps denying PO is a good excuse to continue to do so.
911 was about garnering public support for securing vital strategic regions (grand chessboard, PNAC etc with massive 'defence' spending the MIC needed), controlling energy supplies and a huge crackdown on an awakening public/power grab (all part of an agenda thats been running for a long long time but it got a huge boost on that day). Those 3 reasons are essential in demonstrating that 911 was an inside job to those who get their version of truth from the fools lantern (as has already been mentioned).
As he was one of the original people to expose 911 ('911-truths and lies') I was dismayed that Ruppert announced the window for exposing 911 was over a while back, nothing could be further from the truth imo. I can see why many people now question his motives (besides the PO). However, 'Denial Stops Here' is definately worth checking out if you can find it. Bittorrent is a good way to do so with these big files. (http://tracker2.conspiracycentral.net:6969/ is useful: info/disinfo its all there to pick through)
I think this last year has seen an awakening like never before.
100th monkey approaches
We will reach a critical mass.
Glad to have found you all. \o/
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Even the US Army now believes peak oil to be a real threat and is asking for open discussion on the associated problems.
http://www.energybulletin.net/13737.html
Quote: | Energy Implications for Army Installations
The days of inexpensive, convenient, abundant energy sources are quickly drawing to a close. Domestic natural gas production peaked in 1973. The proved domestic reserve lifetime for natural gas at current consumption rates is about 8.4 yrs. The proved world reserve lifetime for natural gas is about 40 years, but will follow a traditional rise to a peak and then a rapid decline. Domestic oil production peaked in 1970 and continues to decline. Proved domestic reserve lifetime for oil is about 3.4 yrs. World oil production is at or near its peak and current world demand exceeds the supply. Saudi Arabia is considered the bellwether nation for oil production and has not increased production since April 2003. After peak production, supply no longer meets demand, prices and competition increase. World proved reserve lifetime for oil is about 41 years, most of this at a declining availability. Our current throw-away nuclear cycle will consume the world reserve of low-cost uranium in about 20 years. Unless we dramatically change our consumption practices, the Earth’s finite resources of petroleum and natural gas will become depleted in this century. Coal supplies may last into the next century depending on technology and consumption trends as it starts to replace oil and natural gas.
We must act now to develop the technology and infrastructure necessary to transition to other energy sources. Policy changes, leap ahead technology breakthroughs, cultural changes, and significant investment is requisite for this new energy future. Time is essential to enact these changes. The process should begin now.
Our best options for meeting future energy requirements are energy efficiency and renewable sources. Energy efficiency is the least expensive, most readily available, and environmentally friendly way to stretch our current energy supplies. ... For efficiency and renewables, the intangible and hard to quantify benefits — such as reduced pollution and increased security — yield indisputable economic value.
Many of the issues in the energy arena are outside the control of the Army. Several actions are in the purview of the national government to foster the ability of all groups, including the Army, to optimize their natural resource management. The Army needs to present its perspective to higher authorities and be prepared to proceed regardless of the national measures that are taken.
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Was 9/11 the first shot fired in the resource wars in Iraq, Iran and ultimately the rest of the Middle East? |
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:22 am Post subject: |
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As I've said earlier on this thread, oil reserves really does come down to a matter of opinion (IMO) and whose opinion you trust, since practically no opinion including the Peak Oil lobby is independent of the powerful interests of global oil and power.
It hardly takes a genius to figure that the PTB are perfectly capable of influencing the pronouncements/data of big oil and US friendly oil feifdoms especially when these players have a huge vested interest in talking up energy scarcity and when there is considerable secrecy and mystery surrounding statements of reserves.
The fact that the US army supports Peak Oil theory makes me even more (not less) dubious of Peak Oil
Here are a couple of newsnight programmes on oil and 9/11 and peak oil
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/ethical_man/default.st m |
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Then again Exxon debunk Peak Oil, so I guess it must be true ![Confused](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) |
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ian neal wrote: | Then again Exxon debunk Peak Oil, so I guess it must be true |
Yes, strange indeed.
Here's a blog by Jeremy Leggett discussing Exxon's approach. Leggett is a leading exponent of peak oil theory and alternative energy (so I guess one could argue he has a vested interest in promoting dwindling supplies).
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jeremy_leggett/2006/03/peak_time_v iewing.html
Quote: | This ad is an extraordinary step for the world's most profitable company to take. If ExxonMobil are correct in saying the oil production topping point will not happen "for decades to come", we can continue to prop our economies up with growing supplies of cheapish oil for a quarter of a century or more. Governments and investors can relax. If they are wrong, we cross from the up escalator of growing supplies of generally cheap oil to the down escalator of shrinking supplies of vastly expensive oil with no time to bring in alternative ways to fuel economies. Those who predict good times ahead are going to end up with egg on their faces, not to mention holes in their balance sheets. Governments and investors, in particular, are going to look back in considerable anger. A long queue of other finger-pointers will be not far behind. Windfall taxes will be just the beginning of the backlash ExxonMobil and the other oil giants will face.
Place your bets and watch the peak oil story unfold. The denouement will happen soon.
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:44 am Post subject: The Beginning of the End of the Petro-dollar |
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The protection of the US$ was one of the primary motivations for the invasion of Iraq is at the heart of the multi-faceted agenda for the current overt threats to Iran.
The following is link to an article published by Dr. Bulent Gokay, a specialist in International Studies at Keele University. Dr Gokay offers a succinct analysis of the Deep Political Agenda that the US will continue to pursue until the the US$ is established as the de facto global currency .......................... or until the people of the world wake up to the genocidal hegemony being pursued by the represetatives of the demonic cabal.
http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=530827
The end of the 'New American Century' is a foregone conclusion; it's just a matter of the degree of pain and grief necessary to awaken the sleeping masses, in order to bring it about!
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http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=84 33
The Great Colorado Oil Rush of 2006
Moss David Posner
April 21, 2006
When you are piecing events together trying to make sense out of them,
did you ever get the feeling that there's a piece missing--a piece with
which, if you had it, you could make sense of the whole?
For some time now it has been apparent to me that the Bushites wanted
to corner the market on oil, as world oil reserves are clearly being
depleted at an alarming rate; and our reserves, previous thought to be
capable of supplying us for many decades to come, were finally seen as
more limited than we suspected or dared to admit.
The only thing that I couldn't figure out was---if this is the case,
why was the Administration so lackadaisical about protecting the oil
sources we were occupying in Iraq? Clearly, our cavalier entry, ostensibly
with the cynical corporate purpose of winning these vast oil fields for
ourselves, was not accompanied by any plan to protect them.
So, outside of driving prices sky-high, what was the purpose in
possessing them? The anticipated pipelines from Russia and through the
Caspian Basin were clearly a source, but not enough--and certainly not
enough under our control--to make up for the losses. Increase in oil
prices together with limited reserves would clearly drive the price up.
But after that--what? There was a piece missing. There was a piece of
the puzzle missing. The only way this plan could work would be to have a
lot of oil under our direct control; and clearly that was something we
didn't have.
Or did we?
It has just been revealed that what is probably the world's largest oil
source, yet untapped has been known to exist in our country, owned by the
Federal government, and now ready to be tapped:
Colorado oil shale.
In what may be over TWO TRILLION gallons of oil available known to
exist in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado lies the ultimate control of this
smug self-satisfied administration.
According to The Wall Street Journal:
"(When the oil is extracted)...America would become the world's
single biggest oil source, exceeding Saudi Arabia's proven reserves of 261
billion barrels."
This information can be found at: The
U.S. Government's secret oil reserve
The area is the Green River Formation — a barren stretch of land
covering portions of Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming. Each acre holds 2
million barrels of oil. That's why the government quietly put restrictive
legislation, deeming this Federal land, in 1930, and forbidding anyone
from using it.
Now that technological advances have taken place in oil shale retrieval
technology, this is the perfect time and timing for the Neocons.
So on August 8, 2005--woopsie! Bush signed The Energy Policy Act of
2005. So far three out of a total of six potential companies have been
give 160 acres apiece to test-drill the land and to develop this to a
commercial level.
So then, why the permanent basis in Iraq, and the threats of assault on
Iran?
My guess is that we are to continue in our efforts to become--and
remain--a global empire. We still have to deal with the ever-increasing
and well-deserved enmity of Middle Eastern nations. In view of Bush's
public comments it is clear that he supports--or sanctions--actions
against Iran, should they become necessary.
Several journalists have debated action against Iran, with legitimate
arguments on both sides of the issue: To extend our over-stretched
military into Iran is out of the question. The only way this could be
accomplished would be strategically to bomb presumed nuclear research and
development sites.
The question remains---even if we made no attempt to follow this with
ground troops, if nothing else, we will have won the undying hatred of
Moslem world--if there are any Moslems left that don't hate us. In
addition, there is simply no way to predict to what extent this will
intensify attacks on Americans everywhere; but we can all agree that there
will be escalating attacks.
If we do nothing to stop Iran, if left to her own
devices--literally--she will do exactly what her president said--to wipe
Israel off the face of the earth. And we all know Israel is not going to
allow that. Enter the Israeli military, stage left.
There are those apologists who, having graduated with Honors from the
Clinton Academy of Word-parsing, wade through President Ahmandinjad's
speech to say that he didn't say what we all know he meant to say. So what
are we do to?
The operative word here is "we."
We assume something that makes no sense: Although we know that this
administration has absolutely no concern with or for the American people,
we have been assuming that, if only in the light of self-interest, our
leaders will be concerned--because they need us.
There are no executive elections for two more years. Additionally, the
shallow distinction between political parties is overshadowed on the
executive level by the fact that all of the top people are corporate
lovers first, and American loyalists second. And armed with the Patriot
Act, total control of the internet, new non-legal and other technology, a
populist fragmented in their views, crippled by Public Education, and
jointly fearful for the future, that the public will never be able to
initiate a political uprising--a revolution.
They can withdraw to their gated communities, and if necessary, to vast
subterranean cities which currently exist.
Add to this virtually limitless oil resources and the ability to
control the oil market, these people can sell our fossil fuel
predominantly to other nations, at at a handsome price.
They actually think that, with their relatively meager numbers, with a
country enslaved and with those few that still have jobs in war and
petrolium industries, coupled with the continuous demand for oil from
overseas markets, that they can ignore us and control us--that they can
win their own war of attrition against us, and the world, perhaps even
indefinitely.
They just may be right.
Moss David Posner
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Moss David Posner, M.D. is a physician currently in
practice in the California Department of Corrections. He is prolific as
well as versatile, and writes on a number of subjects, including
philosophy, religion, and the state of medical care in the California
Department of Corrections. Dr. Posner has published articles in a variety
of publications, including a Journal of Transcription and the Department
of the Navy. He lives in Fresno with his son Aaron, a budding Mechanical
Engineer. The author welcomes your thoughts and can be reached at:
david.posner@comcast.net
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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If I had to make a guess.
I would say that the oil companies have plenty of oil. It is the consumers who are "running" out;
Oil Tanker spill = Price goes up
Oil Platform attacked = = Price goes up
Oil Refinery burns = = Price goes up
Insane dictator ignites oil reserves = Price goes up
War in oil rich continents = Price goes up
Talking head says oil is scarse = Price goes up
This all culminates in oil companies dictating the price based on catastrophies that effect supply.
A prize to the first person who can name a date in the last 20 years that oil prices have dropped.
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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:48 am Post subject: |
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Hazzard wrote: | A prize to the first person who can name a date in the last 20 years that oil prices have dropped. |
Hi Hazzard,
1999 oil dropped to $11/barrel
What's my prize?
http://www.wtrg.com/prices.htm
Hazzard wrote: | If I had to make a guess.
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Be wary of making pure guesses. Not everything is a conspiracy. Everyone discusses the issue of oil profits but few mention the cost of re-investment by the oil companies to find more oil which is also going up as conventional oil becomes harder to find. That's not to say we shouldn't treat oil company ethics and business data with caution. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: FREE Energy - The Race To Zero Point... |
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FREE Energy - The Race To Zero Point.
We live in a vast sea of Energy; everything, every atom, every sub-atomic particle is in constant motion,
spinning eternally. Even in the cold, dark, absolute vacuum of empty space there exists what NEW Physics
is calling the "Quantum Vacuum Flux".
It is the "Ether" of the Ages, the "Life Force Energy" of Metaphysics.
Are they random fluctuations of this VAST field of potential, in which Space and Time are invented?
Now, theoretically and mathmatically proven, the question no longer is:
"Does this Zero Point Energy exist?" but rather "Can we tap this inexhaustable resource of FREE and
unlimited energy and manifest 'New Technologies' which are both inexpensive and environmentally safe?.
One thing is certain: If we continue on the course of rapidly burning fossil fuels and relying on Nuclear Fusion,
the future of our civilisation is in GRAVE jeopardy:
This video demonstrates exactly how it can be done (with Patent Office approval)
http://www.3dstats.com/cgi-bin/cft.cgi?usr=00001155F0082
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I have it on VERY GOOD authority that there is a veritable ocean of oil sat underground off the coast of Norway, but anyone who knows about it is not allowed to say or they'll lose their jobs. We are NOT running out of oil.
oil from garbage
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Oh catfish, you keep forgetting that any process such as TDP requires energy. No oil = no energy to make oil.
It's all very well for that oil from garbage article to state that the gases produced can be reused as energy to make more oil but the the laws of thermodaynamics mean that some energy will always be lost, therefore you will extract less than you put in. Voila!, you have an ever diminishing return destroying this autonomous fantasy; you start by producing 200 tons of oil and over time end up producing nothing because you've run out of the energy that is produced and needed to keep on making the stuff in the first place!
How many barrels of oil do we currently use a day.....it's about 84 million barrels or 11 million tons. That means according to this article you will need 40 million tons of waste daily just to produce the same amount of oil and still you will need to find the extra energy required to keep the process going. Do the maths, it aint going to work (1 ton of waste produces 600 pounds of oil or 0.27 tons - 40 million tons of waste x 0.27 = 11 million tons of oil)
Of course, this is fine for converting garbage to something useful such as oil but it won't serve the world's markets which are getting thirstier everyday.
As for the oil under Norway, I think your source is confused. It's coal that is in abundance under the coastline of Norway and to burn all of that is unthinkable in terms of preventing climate change.
3000 billion tons of coal off Norway's coastline
Better get used to high oil prices buddy - no conspiracy, just fact. Why do you think the US is so interested in the Middle East and it aint just about imperialism? |
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James C wrote: | Oh catfish |
Don't be so patronizing James, do I patronize you?
Have you tried any of what I said in my Live for Free thread after calling me a liar?
Your bogus drivel reminds me of Conspiracy Theory Sceptic. And if you think I'm being rude then you haven't heard me being rude!
James C wrote: | Better get used to high oil prices buddy |
No I won't. Water power is the future. * armchair scientist.
James C wrote: | I think your source is confused. |
I know that my source is NOT confused, they were very specific, this is a huge cover-up, and my source has access to the highest levels of off-shore affairs, far more knowledgable than you James C. Unless there's something you aren't telling us? _________________ Govern : To control
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Catfish, you are getting angry not because I patronize you but because I expose your rants as lacking credibility.
Anyone can say they have a source that knows x, y and z. I thought only schoolboys used such childish rhetoric - "my dad is bigger than your dad"
Prove it catfish - give us your source about Norwegian oil.
Incidently, on June 8th at 8.09pm I sent you a PM requesting that you show me your water powered car and commending you on deciding to do a tour with it. Since you haven't replied, I can only assume your invention is bogus and you don't really want to show it off at all.
Oh and lastly, I've never called you a liar. I've merely stated that you are not getting something for nothing with your water powered torch. Please don't mis-quote me. |
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James C wrote: | Hi Catfish,
You are a credit to the 9/11 and free energy movement.
I would love to see your car. Please feel free to come over or I'll come to you - which ever is easier. I live near location kept secret by catfish. I'm away for holiday times kept secret by catfish but around the rest of the time.
Let me know your tour dates and we'll meet up.
Take care,
James C |
This is your private message, although why you sent it privately I can't imagine, because why not post your thoughts publicly?
And what free energy movement? This free energy movement?
James C wrote: | I'm sorry, but this stuff is just bs. It's a money making scam whereby you are drawn to websites that suggest you contribute to aid the research. Well if it works, why is further research needed? |
As for my source I won't name them because I wouldn't want to see them lose their job which they enjoy very much. Demanding that I name them? Once again you're calling me a liar. You sir are rude and have some prideful scientific opinions which you have not backed up with experiments, and some bizarre faith in oil companies to do the right thing.
I'm fully aware that I'm wasting my time writing this but you call me a liar, and that sir, I cannot accept, kindly refrain from doing so in future.
Everyone else,
My car tour will go ahead but only when it runs completely off water, with no petrol (I can't afford petrol). In the meantime anyone can arrange to come and see me in Yorkshire. I am ferociously poor at the moment due to much purchasing of stainless steel and no job of work. It is coming together though, everyone who knows I'm for real, thumbs up to you guys, anyone who suspects that I'm a fraud, don't worry folks: I forgive you!
All my love,
David Bright _________________ Govern : To control
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Catfish,
You really are making yourself look like a fool.
My assertion that the science on the LFF thread is bs was not a direct reply to you or anyone else. It was an attack on the science itself and at no point did I accuse anyone, not least you, of being a liar. You have taken this completely out of context and you know it.
James C wrote: | I'm sorry, but this stuff is just bs. It's a money making scam whereby you are drawn to websites that suggest you contribute to aid the research. Well if it works, why is further research needed?
One of the properties of hydrogen is that it is highly flammable although in air it produces no flame at all. Doesn't this documentary show Meyer setting light to his gas which produces a clear distinct yellow, white flame. Sorry, but that cannot happen and it's interesting to see that only the top of the contraption is shown when he does this. He probably doesn't want you to see the magnesium ribbon underneath that is actually causing that white sparking flame.
To split hydrogen and oxygen you need masses of energy. That is why plants need sunlight, since they use the energy to break up the water molecules within their cells. That is also why fossil fuels are so energy intensive because they contain the stored energy of the sun - anyone read "The last hours of ancient sunlight" by Thom Hartmann (ancient sunlight being an alternative description for oil)? Burn fossil fuels and you get heat and water, i.e. the reverse of the process.
Come on guys. Let's start looking at the facts before believing this stuff. Webster Tarpley uses almost 500 pages to uncover the mysteries of 9/11 and some of that is pure speculation. A 17 minute documentary from years ago should not be evidence that this is real. The websites look very dodgy to me also - pure scam! |
And isn't it utterly convenient that your friend might lose his/her job if you were to expose him/her as the source of your Norwegian oil conspiracy. Maybe you are lying about this one.
Oh and don't worry, I'm very aware of how corrupt the oil companies are. You might like to read this book, A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order, or type Operation Ajax into Google. But not even the oil companies are miracle workers and if the oil is running out then it's running out.
I'm still wondering why you didn't reply to my civilized PM, got something to hide? I did of course send a pm because of this:
catfish wrote: | Get in touch by email or PM. I'm gonna tour the country in the next few weeks and I'll come see anyone who is interested in this and show them how to stick two fingers up to these greedy oil smurfs!
Remember I don't want any money I just want to share this technology, and show people how easy it is, so they can do it for themselves.
James C, I look forward to your e-mail because I'm sure this will fascinate you. Water burns. |
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James C wrote: | Better get used to high oil prices buddy - no conspiracy, just fact. |
When it comes to global oil reserves there is no such thing as an UNCONTESTED fact, just opinion and very few independent impartial opinions at that, so I urge everyone to keep an open mind when considering all things oil and 'peak oil' related.
The fact that Clinton raises the alarm about oil depletition is more a reason to doubt peak oil rather than support it IMO
Out of interest James, what is your take on the technologies referred to in the ISIS Energy Report that Meacher spoke at that turns wastes into energy/fuel?
See section VI Wastes in the exec summary |
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: Live For Free |
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Hi James
I spoke to a guy at the Sunrise Festival at Tiverton this week who told a group of us that he had used this method for running a car and said it is dead easy to do. He is into sustainable energy though and seemed to know exactly what he was talking about.
I'm trying to persuade my other half to try it as he is in the motor vehicle industry although he, like yourself, doesn't believe it would work but he has a mate who I am sure is very capable of carrying it off if he won't give it a go so I am going to work on him.
I'll keep you all posted if any progress is made.
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ian neal wrote: | Out of interest James, what is your take on the technologies referred to in the ISIS Energy Report that Meacher spoke at that turns wastes into energy/fuel? |
Waste will certainly play a part but like all alternative fuels it will only be a small answer to a big problem. However, like all these technologies, we are very much behind on administering them successfully and in the quantity required to gain relief from possible declining oil output. I use the adjective possible here since I neither fully endorse the idea that peak oil is upon us and will be a massive threat nor do I make the claim that it is all speculation. Someone somewhere is telling it straight and I have no reason to dismiss the words of people like Matt Simmons or Bill Clinton lightly.
In his book "The Twilight in the Desert", Matt Simmons reveals an amazing piece of evidence which supports the theory of peak oil when he describes how the CIA in the mid-70's produced a study that showed that Saudi Arabia's oil output will start to decline within the first few years of the new Millenium. Since it is accepted that SA is the swing country in terms of output, then for it to peak would mean world peak and since it has not added much to its reserves since 1975, there is no reason to believe the evidence has changed. This report was later filed away under lock and key having surfaced at the time of the Watergate scandal meaning it was never fully in the public frame. Simmons through years of research managed to stumble upon the transcripts taken at the time the report was made public during an open hearing in Congress.
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Maureen wrote: | I'm trying to persuade my other half to try it as he is in the motor vehicle industry although he, like yourself, doesn't believe it would work but he has a mate who I am sure is very capable of carrying it off if he won't give it a go so I am going to work on him.
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Hi Maureen,
Thanks for your post.
I don't have a problem with this technology and am sure it will work. My only issue is that it is not free energy as many are claiming, besides, you first need a car and you can't manufacture one of those without using vast quantities of energy.
I look forward to your update. |
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