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Should Critics Corner be banned and it's occupants evicted?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prole art threat wrote:
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blackcat wrote:
It is not the belief which makes these posters filth. I have already said they do not even believe it themselves. It is the fact they take so much trouble - and it is a fair bit of time and effort they dedicate - to oppose us. Does your mother post lie after lie here?


Here's a "devil filth lies" question for you blackcat ....

If a 9/11 newbie came here and asked about the extent of the fires in WTC7, would you say "there were isolated fires on a few floors" or would you have the honesty to show them this :




Photoshop is a wonderful and splendid thing.

So is Videoshop.
http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Smoke.avi
http://www.911myths.com/wtc7moresmoke.avi
Oh wait...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just think we spend an awful lot of energy indulging their sick fantasies and circular arguments.


I couldn't have said it better myself.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is so obvious they are paid shills. They are not people seeking truth, they are here to distort truth.


Hahaha. With silly things like "logic" and "science". I can't believe you let ridiculous distortions like that get in the way of "truth".
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fuuck off, you are all yanks, this is a british website.

It is so obvious they are paid shills. They are not people seeking truth, they are here to distort truth.

Why dont they fucck off to 9/11 Truth or one of the American sites? And why is it the same old greasy *?


I am not a yank or a shill. I am English and an engineer.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am not a yank or a shill. I am English and an engineer.


Jsut, you are on your way to becoming a full-on, fanged-up traitor to humanity, You need to start thinking beyond engines, bolts, sprockets and concrete and try to put things into a socio/political perspective.

Please watch this documentary and get a handle of what is going on in that lunatic asylum we call AmeriKa.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6986678451215563453

Ive just watched it myself and it has made me think. A lot.

Get away from Critics Corner as soon as possible before you start growing fur and claws. Wink

Good luck.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You need to start thinking beyond engines, bolts, sprockets and concrete and try to put things into a socio/political perspective.

That says it all really, you desperately want 9/11 to be an inside job because you hate and despise Bush and the neo-cons. That is quite understandable, but examining the evidence requires a calm and rational approach. Trying to twist it to fit a preconceived idea is ultimately self-defeating, as I believe you realise from your impassioned attacks on critics.

You must love us really, this is the only part of the site that has any vitality!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Photoshop is a wonderful and splendid thing.

EXACTLY!! And he wants "honesty" from others.

There's that fuc*ing smell again. You just can't keep the ar*eholes under the bridge! Yet another reason for not tolerating them - they won't stay in their gutter.


You should both speak to John White about how to find counselling or therapy.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

prole art threat wrote:
jsut_peopel wrote:

I am not a yank or a shill. I am English and an engineer.


Jsut, you are on your way to becoming a full-on, fanged-up traitor to humanity, You need to start thinking beyond engines, bolts, sprockets and concrete and try to put things into a socio/political perspective.


Please don't lecture me on things you clearly know very little about. You know nothing of my politics, please don't try to presume for me.

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Please watch this documentary and get a handle of what is going on in that lunatic asylum we call AmeriKa.


It's spelt America.

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6986678451215563453

Ive just watched it myself and it has made me think. A lot.


Careful there, if you actually start thinking you might have to confront your ill-concieved predjudices.

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Get away from Critics Corner as soon as possible before you start growing fur and claws. :wink:


I don't know what that means.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:06 am    Post subject: History of the USA Reply with quote

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prole art threat wrote:
You need to start thinking beyond engines, bolts, sprockets and concrete and try to put things into a socio/political perspective.

That says it all really, you desperately want 9/11 to be an inside job because you hate and despise Bush and the neo-cons. That is quite understandable, but examining the evidence requires a calm and rational approach. Trying to twist it to fit a preconceived idea is ultimately self-defeating, as I believe you realise from your impassioned attacks on critics.

You must love us really, this is the only part of the site that has any vitality!


Wanting something and something existing independently are two different things. A myth or a fairy tale is no more objective than a desire or need. But needing myths to justify objective reality is a neo-con art, or more precisely lies distortions and halftruths, which do not in the end exist independently of desires. The desire for war and global conquest required 9/11 as the pretext.

Nothing new in that. Its the history of the USA.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You should both speak to John White about how to find counselling or therapy.


Its an air freshener I need when you are around.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: History of the USA Reply with quote

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Nothing new in that. Its the history of the USA.


I think we are getting to the heart of your pyschological desire for 9/11 to be an inside job.

Tell us more about why you hate America so much.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fuuck off, you are all yanks, this is a british website.

It is so obvious they are paid shills.


People keep saying this. WHERE IS MY PAYCHECK?!?

By the way, PAT, thanks for changing your sig. Much more easy on the eyes.

(Some of us are very conscientious about our oil consumption. I only have to kill one child every other week to fuel my car; my wife goes through them like peanuts.)


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prole art threat wrote:

Jsut, you are on your way to becoming a full-on, fanged-up traitor to humanity, You need to start thinking beyond engines, bolts, sprockets and concrete and try to put things into a socio/political perspective.


So THAT's why the structural engineers all agree with the official story! They're too hung up on things like load limits and failure analysis, and they fail to take the socio/political aspects of the collapse into consideration!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Photoshop is a wonderful and splendid thing.

Amen to that.
The cretins. oops I mean "critics" are a total waste of space, they employ diversionary tactics whilst addressing nothing in the way of actual evidence.
Occums Razor:
A bunch of mega rich greedy powerful individuals with access to everything needed to pull of and cover up this atrocity..?
OR
A bunch of rag heads in a cave half a world away?

Hmmmm let me think. Shocked

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jackchit wrote:
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Photoshop is a wonderful and splendid thing.

Amen to that.
The cretins. oops I mean "critics" are a total waste of space, they employ diversionary tactics whilst addressing nothing in the way of actual evidence.
Occums Razor:
A bunch of mega rich greedy powerful individuals with access to everything needed to pull of and cover up this atrocity..?
OR
A bunch of rag heads in a cave half a world away?

Hmmmm let me think. Shocked


Can we call people rag heads? Confused

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jackchit wrote:
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Photoshop is a wonderful and splendid thing.

Amen to that.
The cretins. oops I mean "critics" are a total waste of space, they employ diversionary tactics whilst addressing nothing in the way of actual evidence.
Occums Razor:
A bunch of mega rich greedy powerful individuals with access to everything needed to pull of and cover up this atrocity..?
OR
A bunch of rag heads in a cave half a world away?

Hmmmm let me think. Shocked


Can we call people rag heads? Confused


I was using the term to illustrate how the simplistic answer has had the effect of stereotyping and demonising certain people, no offence intended.
I do remember hearing an interview with an American comedian on 5live days after the event where he used this phrase.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Photoshop is a wonderful and splendid thing.

Amen to that.
The cretins. oops I mean "critics" are a total waste of space, they employ diversionary tactics whilst addressing nothing in the way of actual evidence.
Occums Razor:
A bunch of mega rich greedy powerful individuals with access to everything needed to pull of and cover up this atrocity..?
OR
A bunch of rag heads in a cave half a world away?

Hmmmm let me think. Shocked

I think you missed an option:
A well-funded, well-prepared group of foreign nationals living in America whose sponsors had found a way to exploit gaps in security, using a low-tech, straightforward approach combined with a willingness to die to achieve spectacular results.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prole art threat wrote:
jsut_peopel wrote:

I am not a yank or a shill. I am English and an engineer.


Jsut, you are on your way to becoming a full-on, fanged-up traitor to humanity, You need to start thinking beyond engines, bolts, sprockets and concrete and try to put things into a socio/political perspective.

Please watch this documentary and get a handle of what is going on in that lunatic asylum we call AmeriKa.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6986678451215563453

Ive just watched it myself and it has made me think. A lot.

Get away from Critics Corner as soon as possible before you start growing fur and claws. Wink

Good luck.


I'm English too. And I have a degree in engineering. I'll think you'll find that trying to look beyond nuts and bolts is why you're so confused. The towers fell because of physics. There can be all the socio-politcal factors in the world, but they won't change physics. That's why I did engineering at university, because its a subject with answers, not opinions.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The cretins. oops I mean "critics" are a total waste of space, they employ diversionary tactics whilst addressing nothing in the way of actual evidence.


I'm still waiting for this unaddressed evidence you guys keep talking about. We continually address all the evidence, you just ignore it and keep on yammering about unaddressed evidence.

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There are two accepted spellings of it, and you missed them both.
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There are two accepted spellings of it, and you missed them both.

wow the spelling police are rife here, although you prove my point that nit picking is all you cretins are capable of.
Nice post, well done...

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are two accepted spellings of it, and you missed them both.

wow the spelling police are rife here, although you prove my point that nit picking is all you cretins are capable of.
Nice post, well done...


"Occams Razor" is a central tennant of the sceptics faith

Mispelling it is the same as spelling "Jehovah" as "c*cksucker" to a religous person Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are two accepted spellings of it, and you missed them both.

wow the spelling police are rife here, although you prove my point that nit picking is all you cretins are capable of.
Nice post, well done...


"Occams Razor" is a central tennant of the sceptics faith

Mispelling it is the same as spelling "Jehovah" as "c*cksucker" to a religous person Wink

I expect you mean "tenet" really!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are two accepted spellings of it, and you missed them both.

wow the spelling police are rife here, although you prove my point that nit picking is all you cretins are capable of.
Nice post, well done...

But you seem to be proving the criticism often made that "truthseekers" evade the central issue and change the subject when caught in a tight spot. How about dealing with the more substantive issue and telling us what this unaddressed evidence consists of?
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There are two accepted spellings of it, and you missed them both.

wow the spelling police are rife here, although you prove my point that nit picking is all you cretins are capable of.
Nice post, well done...

But you seem to be proving the criticism often made that "truthseekers" evade the central issue and change the subject when caught in a tight spot. How about dealing with the more substantive issue and telling us what this unaddressed evidence consists of?


If you can't see it by now then what is the point, look around you there is plenty of evidence that the 911 comissions report was floored, so even if you are not convinced that 911 was a self inflicted wound you should still be calling for a proper open inquiry/investigation, or is the loss of 3000 lives plus the deaths in wars as a result, not good enough for you?
The problem with people like you is you are simply here to disagree and nothing else.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The problem with people like you is you are simply here to disagree and nothing else.

No we're not.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jackchit wrote:
Bushwacker wrote:
jackchit wrote:
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There are two accepted spellings of it, and you missed them both.

wow the spelling police are rife here, although you prove my point that nit picking is all you cretins are capable of.
Nice post, well done...

But you seem to be proving the criticism often made that "truthseekers" evade the central issue and change the subject when caught in a tight spot. How about dealing with the more substantive issue and telling us what this unaddressed evidence consists of?


If you can't see it by now then what is the point, look around you there is plenty of evidence that the 911 comissions report was floored, so even if you are not convinced that 911 was a self inflicted wound you should still be calling for a proper open inquiry/investigation, or is the loss of 3000 lives plus the deaths in wars as a result, not good enough for you?
The problem with people like you is you are simply here to disagree and nothing else.


Disagree and pick up on spelling mistakes.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jackchit wrote:
Bushwacker wrote:
jackchit wrote:
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There are two accepted spellings of it, and you missed them both.

wow the spelling police are rife here, although you prove my point that nit picking is all you cretins are capable of.
Nice post, well done...

But you seem to be proving the criticism often made that "truthseekers" evade the central issue and change the subject when caught in a tight spot. How about dealing with the more substantive issue and telling us what this unaddressed evidence consists of?


If you can't see it by now then what is the point, look around you there is plenty of evidence that the 911 comissions report was floored, so even if you are not convinced that 911 was a self inflicted wound you should still be calling for a proper open inquiry/investigation, or is the loss of 3000 lives plus the deaths in wars as a result, not good enough for you?
The problem with people like you is you are simply here to disagree and nothing else.

You are trying to change the subject again. Clearly you are not able actually to point out any unaddressed evidence. This is unsurprising. All the alleged evidence that 9/11 was an inside job simply crumbles into dust when examined. There were flaws in the way the commission was originally established and Bush's attitude to it was appalling, but in the end it did a reasonable job. Nothing that has since emerged casts any substantial doubt on its main conclusions, and the NIST investigations into the building failures have been as thorough as they could be. I see no purpose whatsoever in another investigation. It would be far better to devote yourself to crticising Bush's disastrous foreign policies than attacking him on a subject where actually he is innocent and therefore unassailable.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For even the most hardcore conspiracy theorist... trying to stifle free speech and dissent is basically fascism. Stifling free speach and dissent is a strange avenue towards "truth".
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you can't see it by now then what is the point, look around you there is plenty of evidence


And you wonder why I compare you guys to religion. "If you don't just SEE IT, I can't help you!". In the real world, we back up our statements with evidence, we don't substitute platitudes for proof. "ITS SO OBVIOUS" doesn't constitute evidence.

Repeating, over and over and over, that there are unaddressed issues doesn't make it true. The issues have been addressed, and consequently ignored by those who can't hear the answers in between all the yelling and screaming about a lack of answers.

Answers are there. Stop pretending they aren't.
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