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John White
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject:

Bushwacker wrote:

John White wrote:

jackchit wrote:

Quote:

There are two accepted spellings of it, and you missed them both.

wow the spelling police are rife here, although you prove my point that nit picking is all you cretins are capable of.
Nice post, well done...

"Occams Razor" is a central tennant of the sceptics faith

Mispelling it is the same as spelling "Jehovah" as "c*cksucker" to a religous person Wink

I expect you mean "tenet" really!

No mate, I'm so naturally generous I put it in so you'd have something to do Cool

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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:18 am Post subject: A shill

Bushwacker wrote:

If you can't see it by now then what is the point, look around you there is plenty of evidence that the 911 comissions report was floored, so even if you are not convinced that 911 was a self inflicted wound you should still be calling for a proper open inquiry/investigation, or is the loss of 3000 lives plus the deaths in wars as a result, not good enough for you?
The problem with people like you is you are simply here to disagree and nothing else.

You are trying to change the subject again. Clearly you are not able actually to point out any unaddressed evidence. This is unsurprising. All the alleged evidence that 9/11 was an inside job simply crumbles into dust when examined. There were flaws in the way the commission was originally established and Bush's attitude to it was appalling, but in the end it did a reasonable job. Nothing that has since emerged casts any substantial doubt on its main conclusions, and the NIST investigations into the building failures have been as thorough as they could be. I see no purpose whatsoever in another investigation. It would be far better to devote yourself to crticising Bush's disastrous foreign policies than attacking him on a subject where actually he is innocent and therefore unassailable.[/quote]

Bushwacker has the label 'wacker' but what he implies is Bush lickspittle.
A characteristic of a shill is one who uses an 'anti-american' label, even dressed in islamic garb and goes round defending the central points of the 'war of terror'...

Defending Bush is the purpose, by defending him on 9/11 for without one we wouldn't have had a change in the foreign policy regarding pre-emptive wars.

Johnny Pixels
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:35 am Post subject: Re: A shill

conspirator wrote:

Bushwacker has the label 'wacker' but what he implies is Bush lickspittle.
A characteristic of a shill is one who uses an 'anti-american' label, even dressed in islamic garb and goes round defending the central points of the 'war of terror'...

Defending Bush is the purpose, by defending him on 9/11 for without one we wouldn't have had a change in the foreign policy regarding pre-emptive wars.

Ahh the old tactic, dismiss critics as shills. You realise that you all appear to be shills for the Democrat party, because you campaign so vigourously to oust Bush and the Republicans. So how's the Democrat pay cheque working out? You get those special services like Clinton did? Is that why you're doing this? It is isn't it? For the money and those extra perks. Mindlessly trolling out the line supplied by your Democrat handlers, and those bastions of truth Dylan Avery and Alex Jones, being used, but you don't care as long as that pay cheque keeps coming in and you keep feeling like you're making a difference in the world.

See, I can make stupid allegations too.
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Bushwacker
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject:

I see Conspirator has still failed to produce any unaddressed evidence, there clearly is none. And I have the firm belief that Hitler did not commit the Jack-the-ripper murders. To Conspirator that must mean I am a Hitler lick-spittle and Nazi party shill, but I can cope with that!

conspiracy analyst
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:04 am Post subject: Heres the evidence...

http://www.rense.com/ even if the US admitted to the crime of the sinking of the Lusitania, Pearl harbour, the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the 9/11 wars, pro-american shills would still argue the opposite...

chek
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:16 am Post subject: Re: Heres the evidence...

conspirator wrote:

http://www.rense.com/

even if the US admitted to the crime of the sinking of the Lusitania, Pearl harbour, the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the 9/11 wars, pro-american shills would still argue the opposite...

That's their job. Still you wouldn't wanna be one of them.
After reading this, some of them might decide a job flipping burgers might be a good emergency career change right now just in case the whole association thing goes against them. I'll leave it unsourced to give them the extra work Smile

"In the event this false flag attack occurs and this nuclear attack is ordered or implemented, then there are 250,000 retired and active duty military personel, primarily navy seals and special forces, in position to arrest and hold both Bush and Cheney on charges of treason and a long list of war crimes during the last five years. There are written dossiers on all the men and women in the Administration and Congress that would also be arrested and charged with treason and war crimes including the events and crimes on 9/11/01. Then an entire list of statutes and laws passed by Congress like the Patriot Acts and the Presidential Executive Orders in conflict with the Constitution and all its Ammendments will be rescinded."

My God, who'd ever have imagined we'd be living in times when a military coup in the West seemed the saner option.

Bushwacker
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:24 am Post subject: Re: Heres the evidence...

conspirator wrote:

No unaddressed evidence, then?

Jay Ref
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:21 am Post subject: Re: Heres the evidence...

conspirator wrote:

Jeff Rense not only makes funny anti-Bush pics. He also is a UFO-nut and unapologetic anti-semite. If you think I'm wrong go check his site. He seems to think the neo-Nazi Ernst Zundel is some kind of free-speech victim.

Ole Jeff is the king of Woo. That he's also "in-bedded" with the troothers as well as every other kind of nut that comes down the pike is not really very surprising.

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Bicnarok
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject:

No not at all. Without criticism no truth can come out. Things have to be scrutinised and not only by belivievers. I enjoy critics corner because it gives a different view on the whole picture. _________________ "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our mind..." Bod Marley

Charliemouse
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:00 am Post subject:

I dont think critics corner should be banned because it helps people that are new to the 911 lie. It was three months ago that i descovered that 911 was an inside job and i will never forget the first week after my descovery. I was in shock and suddenly diddnt know what to believe but i realised something was terrably wrong. I think alot of people in critics corner are like rabits caught in the headlights of a very large lorry. They are in shock and denial like i was but atleast they can get a response to thair questions and thaughts even if what they say is deluded. They need your help, they want to know more but are afrade of where all this new information is taking them. I have read some very agressive responses to critics questions and thaughts which is a shame but try to think of them as people who are learning a very painfull truth and try to be patient, after all they have to be taught somewhere. _________________ George Orwell eat your heart out

chek
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:26 am Post subject:

Charliemouse wrote:

I dont think critics corner should be banned because it helps people that are new to the 911 lie.

It was three months ago that i descovered that 911 was an inside job and i will never forget the first week after my descovery. I was in shock and suddenly diddnt know what to believe but i realised something was terrably wrong.

I think alot of people in critics corner are like rabits caught in the headlights of a very large lorry. They are in shock and denial like i was but atleast they can get a response to thair questions and thaughts even if what they say is deluded.

They need your help, they want to know more but are afrade of where all this new information is taking them. I have read some very agressive responses to critics questions and thaughts which is a shame but try to think of them as people who are learning a very painfull truth and try to be patient, after all they have to be taught somewhere.

Hi CM and welcome to the site.

What you'll notice after a while is that there are many sorts here in Critics Corner, a few of them listed below as:

Those who have genuine questions querying the whole idea of a conspiracy;

the intellectual gamers who scoff at the very notion that there can even be such a thing as conspiracy theories;

the disinfo agents who counter any questioning of the Official Story with ... well whatever their latest handbook tells them;

then you have the normal internet trolls who like to just troll and waste time for their own amusement;

and then you have the more genuine truthers in here countering the arguments.

Stick around long enough and you'll soon be able to tell who is who.

pepik
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:29 am Post subject:

Quote:

After reading this, some of them might decide a job flipping burgers might be a good emergency career change right now just in case the whole association thing goes against them.

I would think that would be the worst possible job to take, seeing as how many truthers are likely be among your coworkers. I'd rather work with engineers and firefighters, where truthers seem rather scarce.

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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Heres the evidence...

Jay Ref wrote:

conspirator wrote:

In the age of the corporate take over of the world anyone or anything that says anything opposite is labelled a ...nazi.

Fascism wouldn't necessarily re-emerge exactly the same way again.

History doesn't repeat itself in such a linear way. But the essence of fascism which is the Big Lie (9-11 Al Qaeda etc) differs not one jot from the fascism of old.

Wars for resources, illegal invasions and destruction ad nauseum continue till today.

Now the Yanks are talking about exterminating 2 million Shias in Baghdad.

Quote:

At the center of the crisis talks are plans for a military assault on densely populated neighborhoods in the capital city, where anti-American insurgents and militia are entrenched, beginning with Sadr City, the home of some 2 million impoverished Shia and the stronghold of the anti-American cleric Moqtada al-Sadr and his Mahdi Army militia.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/oct2006/iraq-o24.shtml

aggle-rithm
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:39 am Post subject: Re: Heres the evidence...

conspirator wrote:

Quote:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/oct2006/iraq-o24.shtml

"World Socialist Web Site"? Sounds like an objective and unbiased source.

pepik
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject:

Even if we accept the World Socialist Worker, the article doesn't say anthing about exterminating 2 million people. Maybe you posted the wrong link?

chipmunk stew
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject:

chek wrote:

Charliemouse wrote:

and we mustn't forget the fanatical troothers who damn us to Hell and express their desire to see us hanging from lampposts;

or the intellectually dishonest troothers who dismiss mountains of evidence and painstakingly transparent, well-documented investigation in favor of rumor-based innuendo, petty hole-poking, and interpretations of evidence that lead to incoherence and absurdity.

Quote:

Stick around long enough and you'll soon be able to tell who is who.

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chek
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject:

And then you have the 'truthers' who have no tolerance for those who like to give the impression of detachment while somehow always acting as the apologists for treason and murder. And then, lowest of the low, the purely dishonest types who tell bare faced lies such as the WTC Towers weren't designed to be hit by airliners full of fuel at 500mph, when of course they were. Easily.

Johnny Pixels
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject:

chek wrote:

And then, lowest of the low, the purely dishonest types who tell bare faced lies such as the WTC Towers weren't designed to be hit by airliners full of fuel at 500mph, when of course they were. Easily.

That would be me then. And you have the evidence to back this claim up...where? You haven't shown us any evidence for this at all Chek. You wouldn't be being dishonest would you Chek? Show us the evidence for this claim. Show all those new to the site how it's the critics who make things up, and the enlightend truth seekers like yourself that have the facts on their side. Show them.
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

chek wrote:

I should also have added:
"And then, lowest of the low, the purely dishonest types who tell bare faced lies such as the WTC Towers weren't designed to be hit by airliners full of fuel at 500mph, when of course they were. Easily.
There's only one reason I can see for such deception."

It's in NIST's report, oh lying shill.
Go look for it, through all four feet thick of it.
It's in there.
That's your first punishment.
I'll leave it to whatever conscience you might have for the rest.

Patrick Brown
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject:

I must say that part of the NIST report was an excellent find. _________________ We check the evidence and then archive it: www.911evidencebase.co.uk Get the Steven E Jones reports >HERE<

Johnny Pixels
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject:

chek wrote:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

chek wrote:

You can't tell me where it is? Are you sure it exists? Or are you lying? Post the evidence. It's your claim, you prove it.
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject:

Is this what you were talking about?

Quote:

Buildings are not designed to withstand the impact of
fuel-laden commercial airliners. However, Port
Authority documents indicate that the impact of a
Boeing 707 flying at 600 mph and possibly crashing
into the 80th floor had been analyzed during the
design of the WTC towers in February/March 1964.
While NIST has not found evidence of the analysis, the
documents state that such a collision would result in
localized damage only, and that it would not cause
collapse or substantial damage to the WTC towers.
The effect of fires due to jet fuel dispersion and ignition
of building contents was not considered in the
1964 analysis. Loss of life in the immediate area of
aircraft impact was anticipated, but loss of life from fire
and smoke was not considered.

So, no evidence for that claim.
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chek
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

chek wrote:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

chek wrote:

You can't tell me where it is? Are you sure it exists? Or are you lying? Post the evidence. It's your claim, you prove it.

On the contrary you lying shill, it's your lie,you prove it.
Of course, you can't prove a lie.
So get reading shill.
It should keep you out of trouble a long, long time while you ponder the error of your ways and what your life had become.

No matter how 'important' those you cover for are, remember, it's your soul. Nobody else has responsibility for it.
Just you.
And when you find it, you can come back here and apologise to everyone.
You've got a lot of reading ahead.
Get going.

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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject:

chek wrote:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

chek wrote:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

chek wrote:

You can't tell me where it is? Are you sure it exists? Or are you lying? Post the evidence. It's your claim, you prove it.

Erm no, you are the one that claims the buildings could withstand 500mph impacts, so you show me why you think that. Unless it's the extract I posted above, in which case there is no evidence for it.
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Jay Ref
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

Is this what you were talking about?

Quote:

So, no evidence for that claim.

Chek is ignorant and has made an ignorant, illogical, and just plain stupid comment. I don't think he lies...but I sure wouldn't put it past him.

Chek old buddy....you DO know that the Boeing 767-200 was only a twinkle in some engineer's eye when the TT were built...don't you???

So tell us again how an aircraft that didn't exist could have influenced building design in any way? Your answer to this question will be most entertaining.

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Jay Ref
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

chek wrote:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

chek wrote:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

chek wrote:

You can't tell me where it is? Are you sure it exists? Or are you lying? Post the evidence. It's your claim, you prove it.

Erm no, you are the one that claims the buildings could withstand 500mph impacts, so you show me why you think that. Unless it's the extract I posted above, in which case there is no evidence for it.

JP,

You have overheated Chek's CT core!! Meltdown is imminent!!

Gawd but these guys are stupid!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!

nevermind.
-z
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chek
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject:

Jay Ref wrote:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

Is this what you were talking about?

Quote:

So, no evidence for that claim.

Jay ref you old fraudster, are you suggesting that a B707 is somehow unique?
That somehow separate calculations should have been performed for every possible brand of aircraft such as a DC-8, or any comparable aircraft in terms of size, weight and performance- such as a 767?
You really are a troll aren't you?

Now let Pixels get on with his homework.
He seems to have found part one, now let him do the rest on his own.
It might help make a fully functional human being of him.
Personally I doubt it, but you never know,

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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject:

chek wrote:

Jay Ref wrote:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

Is this what you were talking about?

Quote:

So, no evidence for that claim.

Well I can't find it, so it doesn't exist. You are proved wrong. The towers couldn't withstand the impact. You are a liar.
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Ignatz
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject:

Blimey chek you really have lost it today. I've always thought that there are multiple people posting under your account. The tone, the language, the logic(?) etc, tend to vary a lot from day to day or even hour to hour. Is this just one of the cheks going doolally? _________________ So remember - next time you can't find a parking spot, go to plan B: blow up your car

chek
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

chek wrote:

Jay Ref wrote:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

Is this what you were talking about?

Quote:

So, no evidence for that claim.

Well I can't find it, so it doesn't exist. You are proved wrong. The towers couldn't withstand the impact. You are a liar.

What a lot of effort. Still, it's your soul shill.
You've had as much help as I'm giving you.
As I said before, the next time you hear from me will be to expose any further of your lies.

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