What was your "smoking gun"?

[kc]

Curious as to what started people doubting the official line, could I ask, what was your epiphany? Your Smoking Gun?

Cheers

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[Patrick Brown]

It was just all the inconsistencies and coincidences which even today, five years on, are still mounting up. The amount of evidence is just overwhelming. I try not to draw too many conclusions from all the data but there is no doubt that an independent international inquiry should happen.

Here's yet another inconsistency: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=5180

And here yet another coincidence: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=5101

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KC, here is one for you :

'A Political Deception' (4 mins)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=360fCOvFLaU

[John White]

The state claiming to know who was responsible within an hour. Being an "eye's open" kind of guy, I'd also noted the submliminal building up of the "Al-queda threat" in the six months before. As a keen student of history, I was already aware of how the power game gets played, and I could spot a "problem" looking for a "solution"

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[kc]

TBF Tele, I'm not bothered about that, I'm curious as to what made people start on this track, a hunch will do me :)

[Patrick Brown]

[scubadiver]

The revelation during "F 9/11" that G Bush Snr was in a meeting with one of OBL's brothers in a Carlyle Group meeting. That was the initial hint for me that something wasn't quite right.

[Bicnarok]

When I first saw a plane hit a building on TV something in my head went "wait a minute something isn´t right here". That the airplane didn´t look like a normal passenger jet, started it off followed by "why wasn´t it shot down".

And after it came out that one plane had crashed and no debris was shown,I thought originally it had been shot down and they didn´t want to admit it.

It went on from there.

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[John White]

[SHERITON HOTEL]

Aren't we STILL waiting for Condi Ricin and her '9/11?OBL dunnit' smoking gun more than five years and TWO AND A HALF WARS LATER?!!?

Then there was honest Tone' and his (snigger) intelligence proving OBL did it.

The official story is full of holes and keeps changing, always a bad sign.

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Yo! Alex Jones predicting 9/11 two months before the attacks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtOFudmHG8

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[SHERITON HOTEL]

I don't think from day one I thought it was US government 'action rather than omission' that was behind the events of 11/9/2001, I remember thinking blimey! they REALLY hit the target BIGTIME! and why is the pile still smoking 8 weeks later? but didn't make any connection. Anyone equipped with normal human suspicion response would have questioned how they "knew who did it" micro seconds after 'through their intelligence' but were in no way forewarned by their intelligence. Then there was the readiness to atack Afghanistan and the oil pipeline in place once they'd conquered.


What really got me was the fact that the mainstream media were not informing and educating all of us in the free world of the many 9/11 anomolies, just covering them up or saying 'move along, there's nothing to see here, we had to find out the truth from other sources.

I seem to recall there was a very odd President Bush time window for two or three days after 9/11 when he went undercover, I distinctly recall Kilroy commenting negatively on it in his daily talkshow.

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[Ignatz]

For me the 'smoking gun' was the first time I saw (almost 5 years after the event) the "CD" of WTC7 -

This is me, Aug 2006, having just watched the 911revisited.com video, bolding added :

"Cheers <name removed>.

Having never before paid any attention to any of the detail of 9/11 conspiracy theories, I've watched that film in a growing state of shock.

The collapses of the twin towers always looked, intuitively, as though they could be 'natural' - what the investigation called 'pancake' collapse - until you learn about the 47 steel cores that provided the main structural strength. I'd never heard about these before, or seen any analysis from architects or engineers before.

Personally I had never seen any film of the collapse of building 7 before. It was instantly obvious that this was a controlled demolition.

In fairness, this stuff might be old hat in the conspiracy world, and any major event like this will attract impressive-sounding cranks who are more than willing to go out on a ridiculous limb, not to mention make films. So I for one am perfectly willing to be put straight. For example, has it ever been admitted that building 7 was knowingly and deliberately demolished? Is there any good reason why the evidence was disposed of in such an unnatural hurry?"

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[Bushwacker]

I was and am vigourously opposed to Bush and everything he espouses, I believe he could do anything at all and justify it to himself, convinced of his own righteousness, so I was emotionally disposed to believe the worst of him. When I saw the video of WTC7 going down it looked so like controlled demolition that I thought it must be.

I started looking at the various conspiracy websites and I kept coming up against things that were quite illogical and gross distortions of evidence. Things like the "pull it" nonsense, and the claim that the invasion of Afghanistan was to enable a pipeline to be built, when that scheme had been abandoned. The more I looked, the more I found that those who claimed to be truthseekers were actually those putting out distortions and lies, not the official sources. I could simply not find any convincing evidence at all that 9/11 was an inside job, despite all the effort put in by those trying to prove it so, and all the alternative explanations put forward were frankly ludicrous. The deeper investigations went into the matters, the more the official story was supported, every attempt to shake it failed totally, and I became convinced that essentially it was correct.

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