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wepmob2000
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| wepmob2000 wrote: | | Ally wrote: | | wepmob2000 wrote: | | Ally wrote: | | I'd like to see the plane huggers explain why there is no plane in the wide shot at the start of the clip. And the ALUMINIUM nose of the plane emerges from the otherside of the WTC which demonstrates more fakery at work. |
.....Yawn..... So whats your explanation then? |
yawn, is that all you got to offer? You're the one who should explain to me why the plane isn't visible at the start of the clip yet they manage to zoom in on cue for the money shot which clearly contradicts what Fox had shown live seconds earlier. |
Do you think the video-camera operator was on his own, with no-one to bring an aircraft to his attention? Do you think that through the lense of his video camera he had an equivalent visual acuity to the resolution offered in a youtube video? |
Of course really I'm doing Ally a great disservice here, and for that I apologise.
Imagine the neocon's, Zionist's, military-industrial complex, whomever, orchestrating their plan for 9/11, a catalyst for their geo-political-strategic plans.............
They have to destroy the Twin Towers in an utterly convincing fashion, but decide to use something other than the aircraft that purportedly will crash into the towers. They need to fake lots of film material to make it appear as though Boeing airliners did crash into the towers.
They could use the finest imagery creating people and techniques possible, surely some of that CGI expertise in Hollywood would not go amiss either.
No, they chose to employ rank amateur numpties, whose faked imagery was so brazenly and obviously faked, that any untrained armchair expert could pick it apart.
Obvious really isn't it? |
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Ally
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| wepmob2000 wrote: | | not forgetting the aircraft was covering at least a mile every ten seconds so was probably not even in shot, I could go on if you wish? |
U just contradicted yourself there as the plane should have been featured in the wide opening shot as the zoom in money shot was barely seconds later.
Write it of as youtube grainyness if you want but the original Fox footage is out there if you really want to compare it.
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Of course really I'm doing Ally a great disservice here, and for that I apologise.
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this has nothing to do with me as a person, rather you believing everything you see on TV.
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wepmob2000
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| Ally wrote: | | wepmob2000 wrote: | | not forgetting the aircraft was covering at least a mile every ten seconds so was probably not even in shot, I could go on if you wish? |
U just contradicted yourself there as the plane should have been featured in the wide opening shot as the zoom in money shot was barely seconds later.
Write it of as youtube grainyness if you want but the original Fox footage is out there if you really want to compare it. |
OK, 1 point to Ally as I'm a nice guy really and I covered most bases anyway..... |
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mason-free party
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stick to hard evidence like the woman waving from the hole made by the plane ...you couldn't doctor this image...best to leave the hologram * to the 911 disinfo agitators,don't waste ya energy on it
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Andrew Johnson
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| mason-free party wrote: | stick to hard evidence like the woman waving from the hole made by the plane ...you couldn't doctor this image...best to leave the hologram * to the 911 disinfo agitators,don't waste ya energy on it
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc1_woman.html |
Ah yes - Edna Cintron - the lady whose name Prof Jones got strangely wrong in his USVC 1st Feb Presentation.
This is an interesting piece of hard evidence. Considering the massive impact fireball that is supposed to have engulfed the region where the plane collided, how can she ever have survived the conflagration?
I presume you've read the articles I sent you, then?
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| Andrew Johnson wrote: | | mason-free party wrote: | stick to hard evidence like the woman waving from the hole made by the plane ...you couldn't doctor this image...best to leave the hologram * to the 911 disinfo agitators,don't waste ya energy on it
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc1_woman.html |
Ah yes - Edna Cintron - the lady whose name Prof Jones got strangely wrong in his USVC 1st Feb Presentation.
This is an interesting piece of hard evidence. Considering the massive impact fireball that is supposed to have engulfed the region where the plane collided, how can she ever have survived the conflagration?
I presume you've read the articles I sent you, then? |
ok,maybe i shouldn't reject the no plane theory until i've done abit more research...does ya head in though |
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Disco_Destroyer
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| Andrew Johnson wrote: | | mason-free party wrote: | stick to hard evidence like the woman waving from the hole made by the plane ...you couldn't doctor this image...best to leave the hologram * to the 911 disinfo agitators,don't waste ya energy on it
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc1_woman.html |
Ah yes - Edna Cintron - This is an interesting piece of hard evidence. Considering the massive impact fireball that is supposed to have engulfed the region where the plane collided, how can she ever have survived the conflagration? |
Because most of the fuel burnt off outside the building and she was seen sometime after the impact, which says wow she walkes to this position from elsewhere in the building?
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