Loose Change on Channel 5

[tfayaz]

People, we've known about writing to Channel 5 for over 2 months now and yet I don't see any progress. Granted, some of you have already written to them, but I honestly believe that these few are not enough if we really do want this shown.

All I'm writing to say is write a letter basically supporting the fact that you want Loose Change shown on the station - that's all. PM, email or somehow send me the letter and I will post it for each and every one of you individuals, out of my own pocket!

You all know how important this is to the general public out there. This is bigger than a few individuals and the movement. Just imagine the possible feedback?!

5 minutes of your time could really make a difference.

Alternatively you can email them:

Dan Chambers, Director of Programmes: dan.chambers@five.tv

His assistant: sarah.jackson@five.tv

The address, should you want to post it yourself:

Dan Chambers
Director of Programmes
Five TV
22 Long Acre
London
WC2E 9LY

Tel: 0845 7 050505 OR 0207 421 7270

Toseef

PS. Can you make this sticky please?

[Snowygrouch]

I reckon just phone em up.
Very few people can be arsed...Errmmm sorry find the time to write letters in this day and age.

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Five TV
22 Long Acre
London
WC2E 9LY

0845 7 050505
0207 421 7270
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[tfayaz]

Point taken mate, but they're not going to jack if we phone them. They'll say "Thank you for the call...." and leave it at that.

This way at least we can almost bombard them with letter upon letter.

Optimism is the way forward mate.

Toseef

[xmasdale]

Well here's someone who can be arsed (err sorry "bothered") I have e-mailed them the following, complete with my full name, address and phone number, and a copy to tfayaz by BCC as requested.

Others who feel moved to write, please use your own words, rather than copying mine.

Noel
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Dear Sir/Madam

The fast-expanding and vibrant worldwide 911 Truth Movement has hitherto been largely ignored by the mainstream media or, if mentioned, has been done so disparagingly. It would appear we cannot in these days of War on Terror expect unbiased reporting of related social and political phenomena. It should not surprise us that the first casualty of war is truth, but please take a look at a movie being widely distributed by this movement, Loose Change 2, and screen it on TV. This will give the public a chance to make up their own minds whether the sneers of certain commentators are justified.

Yours for peace and truth

Noel Glynn

"Take heed, dear Friends, to the promptings of love and truth in your hearts." - Quaker Advices and Queries

[tfayaz]

Noel,

Thanks for copying me into the email.

I will be keeping an archive of all the letters that have been sent out.

Come on people, let's get writing and make a difference!!

[telecasterisation]

Whilst I have emailed all of the big terrestrial tv players with a view to nationally screening Loose Change 2 - I would be genuinely surprised if this actually happened.

Channel 5 has run the gauntlet of light hearted 'Did We Go To Moon Type' documentaries, but things have changed dramatically in the past 18 months, there is a much darker and more sinister cloud in the heavens.

Recently Bush made a speech regarding anyone condoning 9/11 conspiracy theories as siding with the terrorists and things seemed to change after that - moods and opinions, not to mention any hidden agendas and potential covert governmental pressure/whatever goes on behind the scenes.

Although we can openly discuss such issues as 9/11 and The Truth here, it appears that such things are verboten on national tv.

The recent anniversary would have been the perfect time to offer a balanced raft of programmes, instead the most controversial was the one about claiming compensation for still living relatives.

It may be a country where free-speech is welcomed, but make sure you keep your mouth shut when doing it.

[tfayaz]

Good point, telecasterisation.

I do however believe that pressure applied with the right amount will get this little door open. Needless to say, IF they were to ever show it, I could honestly see one or two media outlets giving it a more fair and balanced review.

Whether we agree to which documentary should be shown or when the right time was, I think it is for the greater good that we really rally behind this.

[xmasdale]

CHANNEL 5 REPLIES


Your Reference: VA/173687/JM (Please quote this reference in all further correspondence)





Date: 14th November 2006




Dear J Noel Glynn



Thank you for your recent enquiry regarding Loose Change 2nd Edition.

We are fully aware of this film; unfortunately, we do not have the rights to it. However, we have passed your request to see this film on Five to our Acquisitions Department for their attention.


If there is anything further we can help you with, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Thank you for your interest in Five.

Yours sincerely

JULIE

VIEWER ADVISOR



Please note that the contact details for Five Customer Services are as follows:



Telephone: 0845 7 05 05 05 / 020 7421 7270

Text telephone for use by deaf people: 0845 7 41 37 87

E-mail: customerservices@five.tv

Fax: 020 7836 1286

[flamesong]

[Hazzard]

They dont have the rights to it?

What a crock of manure! They should know that Avery will give it to them for free!

Besides I emailed them about this months ago and never even bothered getting a reply, so meh.

I doubt its going to happen to be honest, but im a cynical b****** .

[xmasdale]

Dear Julie

Thank you for your e-mail explaining that you can't screen Loose Change 2 because you don't have the rights to it. I am happy to inform you that Dylan Avery will grant you those rights for free. All you have to do is to e-mail him at dylan@loosechange911.com . Alternatively you could contact Tim Sparke, Chief Executive Officer of Mercury Media tsparke@mercurymedia.org who also has the rights to this movie.

I am so glad there is no insurmountable barrier to Channel 5 screening this movie and I look forward to viewing it on your channel soon.

Yous sincerely

Noel Glynn

[adam1]

Well I emailed C5 in September, thanks to prodding on this forum, and they politely batted me away.
It seems that if flamesong is correct, which I think he is, then we are on a hiding to nothing.
Not to discourage anybody, just maybe direct your energy elsewhere - Joe Bloggs?
On reflection, it still ceases to amaze me, and motivate me, to see how all this would only seem to confirm that we've really got a "live one" here, with big organisations tying themselves in knots not to have to look the white elephant in the face. Let's hope that the water that is amassing at the damn wall will eventually find a way through.
Keep going!

[ian neal]

Don't think these efforts are wasted. They provide further evidence of mainstream braodcasters are failing in the public duty and such evidence will come in handy. It makes it harder for them to pretend they are / were unaware of 9/11 truth

[ishaar]

I just called channel 5, as soon as I mentioned loose change I got a 'get off the phone as quickly as possible' response. They said they don't have the broadcast rights, I asked if that was the only thing stopping them going ahead as there actually isn't a problem with the right to broadcast DA has already given broadcast rights freely to anyone who cares to broadcast the production.
He then said it also depends on whether the board see's the production as 'appropriate'.
I asked if he were familiar with Loose Change, he said he was.
I told him Loose change is being broadcast worldwide, with subtitles in non English speaking countries, they must feel it's 'appropriate' why is the UK audience being denied the chance to assess the appropriateness of the production for themselves.
The board makes the final decision he said.

I guess what they deem apropriate or inapropriate is down to whether or not it conflicts with our government present hate campaigne against Muslims rather than any demands expressed by Joe public.

[mason-free party]

and we all know which clan owns channel 5...head office near the Grand Masonic Lodge i believe...Longacre street joins Gt.Queen st

[TimmyG]

i don't know if loose change is the best thing to get shown. many people will just pick out the over-confident conclusive parts which are totally speculative (missile, phone calls faked etc...)

something like 9/11 mysteries or press 4truth might be more effective in the long run

[scubadiver]

I think "Press for Truth" is a superb documentary and would make great TV.

[ishaar]

I too think 'press for truth' would be a good option, and maybe they would have less of a problem broadcasting it as it doesn't directly address the issue of who perpetrated 9 11, only that indeed there is a big cover up.

[TimmyG]

i dont know. i think it might be better to stick to what we can prove to start off with..although i suspect an element of the us gov to be responsible, we can't prove it yet. we can prove there has been a cover up

not enough people are aware of this

[Andrew Johnson]

[ishaar]

I agree PFT is a bit weak, but better than nothing. I know 2 people who started looking a lot deeper after watching PFT. Also, if someone not aware of the 9 11 issues has already seen PFT I think the suggestion that there was government complicity, awarenes, pre-knowledge of 9 11 is more readily believed.

[Andrew Johnson]

[A Sharp Major]

This is not a criticism so bear with me.

[scubadiver]

I personally think that if you tell someone that the towers were blown up, it will be disregarded because they wouldn't believe you.

The way that PFT has been made is that it gets people thinking and creates awareness!! There was more to the success of 9/11 than just blowing up the towers and people do need a general understanding about the whole event (IMHO)

[blackcat]

[A Sharp Major]

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ASM

Flagging up your opinions and then continuing with a discussion in critics corner, no problem.

Entering on going discussion in the areas of the forum for non-critics/campaign supporters is not allowed.

Cheers

Ian

[Graham]

[telecasterisation]

[A Sharp Major]

Thank you telecasterisation for your very reasonable reply in support of a fact. How much money Avery and company are making is neither here nor there at this time although I suspect it'll more than 'pay the bills' unless it is their legal bill if someone gets really annoyed with them.

Of Channel 5's response Hazzard said

[ian neal]

My twopenneth worth

If Dylan makes money out of his endevours all power to him.

Copyright issues have not prevented the film being broadcast on 'terrestrial' channels around the world and I understand Loose Change 3 is to be screened in Ireland in 2007. Should be interesting. We have had no indication from Channel 5 that their hesitation to screen the film is anything to do with copyright concerns.

Anyone interested in the detail of this (as opposed to pure speculation) is advised to contact Tim at Mercury Media or Dylan directly