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foliagecop
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 Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:09 am Post subject: Evil Bolton to be ousted? |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6134734.stm
The US envoy to the UN, John Bolton, looks set to lose his job after the Democrats' victory in mid-term polls.
He will become the second high-profile member of President George Bush's team to leave after the polls, following Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
The Bush administration wants to keep Mr Bolton in his job but he needs to be confirmed by the Senate and senior senators say that cannot now happen.
Mr Bolton was appointed in August 2005 during a Congressional recess.
This was a procedural manoeuvre which avoided the need for him to be confirmed until the end of this year.
The president has formally asked for that confirmation during the final session of the outgoing Senate.
But the senators who opposed Mr Bolton last time, including one Republican, are refusing to change their minds.
With the Democrats due to take over in January, the door has slammed shut.
It looks as if Mr Bush will be forced, very much against his will, to find a new UN ambassador and it will have to be someone the Democrats will approve.
Another big change is on the Senate environment committee, where a Republican who disputes the existence of man-made global warming is being replaced as chairman by a Democrat who says the issue is the challenge of our times. |
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Pincher
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Evil Bolton to be ousted? |
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| foliagecop wrote: | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6134734.stm
The US envoy to the UN, John Bolton, looks set to lose his job after the Democrats' victory in mid-term polls.
He will become the second high-profile member of President George Bush's team to leave after the polls, following Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
The Bush administration wants to keep Mr Bolton in his job but he needs to be confirmed by the Senate and senior senators say that cannot now happen.
Mr Bolton was appointed in August 2005 during a Congressional recess.
This was a procedural manoeuvre which avoided the need for him to be confirmed until the end of this year.
The president has formally asked for that confirmation during the final session of the outgoing Senate.
But the senators who opposed Mr Bolton last time, including one Republican, are refusing to change their minds.
With the Democrats due to take over in January, the door has slammed shut.
It looks as if Mr Bush will be forced, very much against his will, to find a new UN ambassador and it will have to be someone the Democrats will approve.
Another big change is on the Senate environment committee, where a Republican who disputes the existence of man-made global warming is being replaced as chairman by a Democrat who says the issue is the challenge of our times. |
If the so-called war on terror is the biggest political lie of modern times than man made global warming is a close second.
The war on terror is the propaganda offensive that allows the US to dominate Eurasia and the Middle East to maintain global primacy (in the same way that McCarthyism allowed it to prosecute the Cold War).
Man made global warming is politicised pseudo science. It serves the interests of those opposed to US global primacy (virtually everyone but particularly France, Russia & China and their front organisations the EU and UN). The Kyoto protocol's provisions on carbon emissions were designed principally to hobble the US economically and to reduce the nation's status to 'Primus Inter Pares (First Among Equals).'
Conspiracy is a two way street... |
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chek
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Evil Bolton to be ousted? |
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| Pincher wrote: | | foliagecop wrote: | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6134734.stm
The US envoy to the UN, John Bolton, looks set to lose his job after the Democrats' victory in mid-term polls.
He will become the second high-profile member of President George Bush's team to leave after the polls, following Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
The Bush administration wants to keep Mr Bolton in his job but he needs to be confirmed by the Senate and senior senators say that cannot now happen.
Mr Bolton was appointed in August 2005 during a Congressional recess.
This was a procedural manoeuvre which avoided the need for him to be confirmed until the end of this year.
The president has formally asked for that confirmation during the final session of the outgoing Senate.
But the senators who opposed Mr Bolton last time, including one Republican, are refusing to change their minds.
With the Democrats due to take over in January, the door has slammed shut.
It looks as if Mr Bush will be forced, very much against his will, to find a new UN ambassador and it will have to be someone the Democrats will approve.
Another big change is on the Senate environment committee, where a Republican who disputes the existence of man-made global warming is being replaced as chairman by a Democrat who says the issue is the challenge of our times. |
If the so-called war on terror is the biggest political lie of modern times than man made global warming is a close second.
The war on terror is the propaganda offensive that allows the US to dominate Eurasia and the Middle East to maintain global primacy (in the same way that McCarthyism allowed it to prosecute the Cold War).
Man made global warming is politicised pseudo science. It serves the interests of those opposed to US global primacy (virtually everyone but particularly France, Russia & China and their front organisations the EU and UN). The Kyoto protocol's provisions on carbon emissions were designed principally to hobble the US economically and to reduce the nation's status to 'Primus Inter Pares (First Among Equals).'
Conspiracy is a two way street... |
There is no doubt that the implementation of the necessary social and economic changes will be played as viciously and hard as any international policy, but that is not to say that Global Warming itself is a myth.
I believe glacier retreat alone is a wake up call, though whether received too late remains to be seen.
It's a factor that the human race has never had to deal with on such a scale before - maybe it'll be the test of our mettle as a species that makes or breaks us.
Good news about Bolton too. A fitting end to the most unsuitable appointment ever? |
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Pincher
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Global warming is probably true. Man made global warming (or anthropomorphic climate forcing) is academic conjecture which has been seized on by liberal chauvinist statesmen, bureaucrats and their mouthpieces to further a political agenda.
How you view Jim Bolton's probable demise depends ultimately on your view of the UN. If you resile from the sentiment that the UN is the most corrupt, wasteful and amoral institution that has ever exisited you will probably be seriously rehearsing your jig of joy for when the news breaks.
But the merest shuffle on that day will mark you out as either a hopelessly naive Franco/Russo/Sino dupe or an unreconstructed Stalinist toe-rag. |
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AntiZionistAntiNeocon
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I'm not sure about Global Warming being primarily a human caused scenario.
Yes, we have done a lot of damage to this planet of ours, and we are certainly contributing to climate change in our own way, but I think that the Earth also has it's natural cycles of cooling and heating, and that the Sun affects the climate on the Earth a lot more than we might guess.
Look at this article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Content/displayPrintable.jhtml;jsessio nid=0LEOSQE5QBFYPQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2006/11/05/nwarm05.xml& site=5&page=0
Here is a very interesting quote from it: "the "climate-change" scare is less about saving the planet than, in Jacques Chirac's chilling phrase, "creating world government"."
What do you make of that?!?!
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Pincher
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[quote="AntiZionistAntiNeocon"]I'm not sure about Global Warming being primarily a human caused scenario.
Yes, we have done a lot of damage to this planet of ours, and we are certainly contributing to climate change in our own way, but I think that the Earth also has it's natural cycles of cooling and heating, and that the Sun affects the climate on the Earth a lot more than we might guess.
Look at this article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Content/displayPrintable.jhtml;jsessio nid=0LEOSQE5QBFYPQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2006/11/05/nwarm05.xml& site=5&page=0
Here is a very interesting quote from it: "the "climate-change" scare is less about saving the planet than, in Jacques Chirac's chilling phrase, "creating world government"."
What do you make of that?!?![/quote]
Staggered, AZAN, simply staggered! That's a climate contrarian's line. I'd always assumed that France were the biggest backers of the IPCC.
Perhaps I need to delve into this matter a little more... |
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Disco_Destroyer
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If you can't see the effects of climate change within this country then you simply don't get out enough  well unless of course national weather readings are manipulated and lied about in the press! Hmm well that wouldn't surprise me though 
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Pincher
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| Disco_Destroyer wrote: | | If you can't see the effects of climate change within this country then you simply don't get out enough well unless of course national weather readings are manipulated and lied about in the press! Hmm well that wouldn't surprise me though |
What an odd post! On the one hand you suggest that the physical evidence of global warming can be witnessed by anyone who steps out their front door and on the other you hint that we might just be imagining it!
Climate change is undoubtedly taking place. The argument is whether or not warming is principally 'man made.' |
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xmasdale
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Whether or not climate change is human-made, the relevant issue is whether reduction of carbon emissions will reduce it and give us a more equable planet to live on.
How many will say:
"Oh now I realise the reason London will flood is not because of human mismanagement of the planet, I shall stop worrying. If it's going to flood because of a natural solar cycle that's fine. Glug! Glug!" ? |
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chek
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| xmasdale wrote: | Whether or not climate change is human-made, the relevant issue is whether reduction of carbon emissions will reduce it and give us a more equable planet to live on.
How many will say:
"Oh now I realise the reason London will flood is not because of human mismanagement of the planet, I shall stop worrying. If it's going to flood because of a natural solar cycle that's fine. Glug! Glug!" ? |
Exactly so.
Whether climate change is due to human causes or not, it is in our best interests to assume, at least for now, that it is and act accordingly. |
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chek
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| chek wrote: | | xmasdale wrote: | Whether or not climate change is human-made, the relevant issue is whether reduction of carbon emissions will reduce it and give us a more equable planet to live on.
How many will say:
"Oh now I realise the reason London will flood is not because of human mismanagement of the planet, I shall stop worrying. If it's going to flood because of a natural solar cycle that's fine. Glug! Glug!" ? |
Exactly so.
Whether climate change is due to human causes or not it is in our best interests to assume, at least for now, that it is and act accordingly. |
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THETRUTHWILLSETU3
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When you have former vice presidents of the USA coming over to these shores to warn us about Global Warming and Hollywood making blockbuster movies about it - then it's obvious they have a hidden agenda.
No doubt they will try for a Global Global warming tax which will end up in the pockets of the Elite - and/or it's a precurser to further so called natural disasters which are not natural but MAN MADE like Katrina.
WISE UP - YOU ARE INCREDIBLY NAIVE |
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chek
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| THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote: | When you have former vice presidents of the USA coming over to these shores to warn us about Global Warming and Hollywood making blockbuster movies about it - then it's obvious they have a hidden agenda.
No doubt they will try for a Global Global warming tax which will end up in the pockets of the Elite - and/or it's a precurser to further so called natural disasters which are not natural but MAN MADE like Katrina.
WISE UP - YOU ARE INCREDIBLY NAIVE |
On the other hand, you may equally be incredibly wrong.
Are you willing to take what might prove to be an irreversible gamble?
The political aspect will be to ensure that the results are shared as equitably as is humanly possible. |
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Newspeak International
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| Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote: | When you have former vice presidents of the USA coming over to these shores to warn us about Global Warming and Hollywood making blockbuster movies about it - then it's obvious they have a hidden agenda.
No doubt they will try for a Global Global warming tax which will end up in the pockets of the Elite - and/or it's a precurser to further so called natural disasters which are not natural but MAN MADE like Katrina. |
Exotic weaponry anyone?
My take on this, and taking everything into account I agree with TTWSU3's post. |
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