Iran

[Annie]

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From: Supreme Law Firm <paulandrewmitchell2004@yahoo.com>
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Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 12:34:53 -0800 (PST)

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> Has it 'dawned' on anyone but me ...

When you learned you're not the only one, you changed the subject.

Interesting!


> It makes no difference if Iran has advanced Russian weapons
> if they're in teeny weeny pieces.


Well, I seem to have heard that very same bravado from
various Pentagon personnel about 500 TIMES since
the Tet Offensive in 1968.

Please know that I am categorically opposed to military aggression
against Iran. That country has not attacked America and, thus,
there is no reason for the U.S. military to commit more war crimes there,
when they've already committed more than enough elsewhere on this
planet.

Enough is enough!

Also, I decline to debate the matter: the finding by a group of
Japanese experts in international was that George W. Bush
is a war criminal unfit for public office:

http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/gwbush/icta.judgment.htm

I concur. He belongs in federal prison -- for a very long time
-- if not death row.

Cheering for criminals is just not my style, thank you very much.


Sincerely yours,
/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S.
Private Attorney General, Criminal Investigator and
Federal Witness: 18 U.S.C. 1510, 1512-13, 1964(a)
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Bruce Chesley <excalibur25@juno.com> wrote:
On one hand, I believe that the military positioned at least
one satellite over the area to prepare for Irani actions in
Hormuz. Obviously, our sending high altitude bombing /
missling runs to neutralize as many Irani counter measures,
should be the high priority. It makes no difference if Iran
has advanced Russian weapons if they're in teeny weeny
pieces. As I recall from Capt. Kelley's talk, the new minesweepers
can tackle all mine removal. Time will tell. BTW, I'm not
revealing any secrets. Awhile back, The History Channel did
a program on new Naval craft and the minesweepers were
presented.
On the other hand, dumbass decisions could be made that
make everything go to s***.
Bruce Chesley
Truth is a terrible cross to bear.
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.". Thomas Paine
Treason for $$$: ALL "pro 2A" orgs.

On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 19:07:22 -0000 "Paul Andrew Mitchell"

writes:
> > Has it 'dawned' on anyone but me that we are
> > just about to get our dumb asses kicked
> > as soon as we go into Iran????
>
> Yes!
>
> We've been trying to warn the U.S. Navy in San Diego
> that the Persian Gulf is a trap just waiting for
> carrier battle groups to enter, and sink to the bottom.
>
> The pattern I now see is that The Conspiracy is doing
> everything it can to weaken the U.S. Military, in slow
> but sure steps:
>
> http://www.supremelaw.org/press/rels/anthrax.htm
> http://www.supremelaw.org/press/rels/rockrep.htm
>
> Taking out one or more major carrier battle groups
> will be another feather in the caps of certain traitors
> who are already well known and well documented.
>
> Once the Strait of Hormuz is blocked, the fleet trapped
> inside the Gulf will be sitting ducks for Russian
> Super Sunburn cruise missiles, which Iran has been
> buying up -- by the hundreds, if not thousands -- and
> deploying along Iran's western shoreline.
>
> This is a Mach 3 robotic bomb that cruises at 40 feet above
> the surface of the sea. The kinetic energy alone is enough
> to do enormous damage to a carrier:
>
> E = 1/2 mv**2 (the formula for Kinetic Energy)
>
> See "The Sum of All Fears" for a realistic rendition
> of multiple cruise missiles hitting a bull's eye
> on the carrier island/control tower.
>
>
> Sincerely yours,
> /s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S.
> Private Attorney General, Criminal Investigator and
> Federal Witness: 18 U.S.C. 1510, 1512-13, 1964(a)
> http://www.supremelaw.org/decs/agency/private.attorney.general.htm
> http://www.supremelaw.org/index.htm
> http://www.supremelaw.org/support.policy.htm
> http://www.supremelaw.org/guidelines.htm
>
> All Rights Reserved without Prejudice
>
>
>
> --- In apfn-1@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Chesley
> wrote:
> >
> > Last I knew, the US Navy has several thick fiberglass hull,
> > bronze engine powered, turns on a dime, minesweepers. I know
> > the guy who did their sea trials.
> > Bruce Chesley
> > Truth is a terrible cross to bear.
> > Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.". Thomas Paine
> > Treason for $$$: ALL "pro 2A" orgs.
> >
> > Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:18:08 EST
> > From: bobworn@...
> >
> > Has it 'dawned' on anyone but me that we are just about to get our
>
> dumb
> > asses
> > kicked as soon as we go into Iran???? Bob
> >
> > Iran Readies Plan to Close Strait of Hormuz
> > Kenneth R. Timmerman, NewsMax.com
> > Wednesday, March 1, 2006
> >
> > Iran's Revolutionary Guards are making preparations for a massive
>
> assault
> > on
> > U.S. naval forces and international shipping in the Persian Gulf,
> > according to
> > a former Iranian intelligence officer who defected to the West in
>
> 2001.
> > The plans, which include the use of bottom-tethered mines
> potentially
> > capable
> > of destroying U.S. aircraft carriers, were designed to counter a
> U.S.
> > land
> > invasion and to close the Strait of Hormuz, the defector said in a
>
> phone
> > interview from his home in Europe.
> > They would also be triggered if the United States or Israel
> launched a
> > pre-emptive strike on Iran to knock out nuclear and missile
> facilities.
> > "The plan is to stop trade," the source said.
> > Between 15 and 16.5 million barrels of oil transit the Strait of
> Hormuz
> > each
> > day, roughly 20 percent of the world's daily oil production,
> according to
> > the
> > U.S. government's Energy Information Administration.
> >
> > The source provided NewsMax parts of a more than 30-page
> contingency
> > plan,
> > which bears the stamp of the Strategic Studies Center of the
> Iranian
> > Navy,
> > NDAJA. The document appears to have been drafted in September or
> October
> > of 2005.
> > The NDAJA document was just one part of a larger strike plan to be
>
> > coordinated by a single operational headquarters that would
> integrate
> > Revolutionary
> > Guards missile units, strike aircraft, surface and underwater
> naval
> > vessels,
> > Chinese-supplied C-801 and C-802 anti-shipping missiles, mines,
> coastal
> > artillery,
> > as well as chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.
> > The overall plans are being coordinated by the intelligence office
>
> of the
> >
> > Ministry of Defense, known as HFADA.
> > Revolutionary Guards missile units have identified "more than 100
> > targets,
> > including Saudi oil production and oil export centers," the
> defector
> > said. "They
> > have more than 45 to 50 Shahab-3 and Shahab-4 missiles ready for
> > shooting"
> > against those targets and against Israel, he added.
> > The defector, Hamid Reza Zakeri, warned the CIA in July 2001 that
>
> Iran
> > was
> > preparing a massive attack on America using Arab terrorists
> flying
> > airplanes,
> > which he said was planned for Sept. 11, 2001. The CIA dismissed
> his
> > claims and
> > called him a fabricator.
> >
> > The source also identified a previously unknown nuclear weapons
> site last
> >
> > year to this writer, which was independently confirmed by three
> separate
> > intelligence agencies.
> > NewsMax showed the defector's documents to two native Persian-
> speakers
> > who
> > each have more than 20 years of experience analyzing intelligence
> > documents from
> > the Islamic Republic regime. They believed the documents were
> authentic.
> > A U.S. military intelligence official, while unable to
> authenticate
> the
> > documents without seeing them, recognized the Strategic Studies
> Center
> > and noted
> > that the individual whose name appears as the author of the plan,
>
> Abbas
> > Motaj,
> > was head of the Iranian navy until late 2005.
> > A former Revolutionary Guards officer, contacted by NewsMax in
> Europe,
> > immediately recognized the Naval Strategic Studies institute from
>
> its
> > Persian-language acronym, NDAJA. He provided independent
> information on
> > recent deployments
> > of Shahab-3 missiles that coincided with information contained in
>
> the
> > NDAJA
> > plan.
> > The Iranian contingency plan is summarized in an "Order of Battle"
>
> map,
> > which
> > schematically lays out Iran's military and strategic assets and
> how
> they
> > will
> > be used against U.S. military forces from the Strait of Hormuz up
> to
> > Busheir.
> >
> > The map identifies three major areas of operations, called "mass
> kill
> > zones,"
> > where Iranian strategists believe they can decimate a U.S.-led
> invasion
> > force
> > before it actually enters the Persian Gulf.
> > The kill zones run from the low-lying coast just to the east of
> Bandar
> > Abbas,
> > Iran's main port that sits in the bottleneck of the Strait of
> Hormuz, to
> > the
> > ports of Jask and Shah Bahar on the Indian Ocean, beyond the
> Strait.
> > Behind the kill zones are strategic missile launchers labeled
> as "area of
> >
> > chemical operations," "area of biological warfare operations,"
> and "area
> > where
> > nuclear operations start."
> > Iran's overall battle management will be handled through C4I and
> > surveillance
> > satellites. It is unclear in the documents shared with NewsMax
> whether
> > this
> > refers to commercial satellites or satellite intelligence obtained
>
> from
> > allies,
> > such as Russia or China. Iran has satellite cooperation programs
> with
> > both
> > nations.
> > The map is labeled "the current status of military forces in the
> Persian
> > Gulf
> > and the Strait of Hormuz, 1384." 1384 is the Iranian year that
> ends
> on
> > March
> > 20, 2006.
> >
> > Iran plans to begin offensive operations by launching successive
> waves of
> >
> > explosives-packed boats against U.S. warships in the Gulf, piloted
>
> by
> > "Ashura" or
> > suicide bombers.
> > The first wave can draw on more than 1,000 small fast-attack
> boats
> > operated
> > by the Revolutionary Guards navy, equipped with rocket launchers,
>
> heavy
> > machine-guns and possibly Sagger anti-tank missiles.
> >
> > In recent years, the Iranians have used these small boats to
> practice
> > "swarming" raids on commercial vessels and U.S. warships
> patrolling
> the
> > Persian Gulf.
> >
> >
> > The White House listed two such attacks in the list of 10 foiled
> al-
> Qaida
> >
> > terrorist attacks it released on Feb. 10. The attacks were
> identified as
> > a "plot
> > by al-Qaida operatives to attack ships in the [Persian] Gulf" in
> early
> > 2003,
> > and a separate plot to "attack ships in the Strait of Hormuz."
> >
> > A second wave of suicide attacks would be carried out by "suicide
> > submarines"
> > and semi-submersible boats, before Iran deploys its Russian-built
> > Kilo-class
> > submarines and Chinese-built Huodong missile boats to attack U.S.
> > warships,
> > the source said.
> >
> > The 114-foot Chinese boats are equipped with advanced
> radar-guided
> > C-802s, a
> > sea-skimming cruise-missile with a 60-mile range against which
> many
> U.S.
> > naval
> > analysts believe there is no effective defense.
> >
> > When Iran first tested the sea-launched C-802s a decade ago, Vice
>
> Admiral
> >
> > Scott Redd, then commander of U.S. naval forces in the Gulf,
> called
> them
> > "a new
> > dimension ... of the Iranian threat to shipping."
> >
> > Admiral Redd was appointed to head the National Counterterrorism
> Center
> > last
> > year.
> >
> > Iran's naval strategists believe the U.S. will attempt to land
> ground
> > forces
> > to the east of Bandar Abbas. Their plans call for extensive use of
>
> > ground-launched tactical missiles, coastal artillery, as swell as
> > strategic missiles
> > aimed at Saudi Arabia and Israel tipped with chemical, biological
>
> and
> > possibly
> > nuclear warheads.
> >
> > The Iranians also plan to lay huge minefields across the Persian
> Gulf
> > inside
> > the Strait of Hormuz, effectively trapping ships that manage to
> cross the
> >
> > Strait before they can enter the Gulf, where they can be destroyed
>
> by
> > coastal
> > artillery and land-based "Silkworm" missile batteries.
> >
> > Today, Iran has sophisticated EM-53 bottom-tethered mines, which
> it
> > purchased
> > from China in the 1990s. The EM-53 presents a serious threat to
> major
> > U.S.
> > surface vessels, since its rocket-propelled charge is capable of
> hitting
> > the
> > hull of its target at speeds in excess of 70 miles per hour. Some
> > analysts
> > believe it can knock out a U.S. aircraft carrier.
> >
> > The Joint Chiefs of Staff has been warning about Iran's growing
> naval
> > buildup
> > in the Persian Gulf for over a decade, and in a draft
> presidential
> > finding
> > submitted to President Clinton in late February 1995, concluded
> that Iran
> >
> > already had the capability to close the Strait of Hormuz.
> >
> > "I think it would be problematic for any navy to face a
> combination
> of
> > mines,
> > small boats, anti-ship cruise missiles, torpedoes, coastal
> artillery, and
> >
> > Silkworms," said retired Navy Commander Joseph Tenaglia, CEO of
> Tactical
> > Defense
> > Concepts, a maritime security company. "This is a credible
> threat."
> >
> > In Tenaglia's view, "the major problem will be the mines. Naval
> > minefields
> > are hard to locate and to sweep," and the United States has few
> > minesweepers.
> > "It's going to be like running the gauntlet getting through
> there,"
> he
> > said.
> >
> > When Iran last mined the Gulf, in 1987-1988, several U.S. ships
> and
> > reflagged
> > Kuwaiti oil tankers were hit, even though the mines they used
> were
> > similar to
> > those used in the Battle of Gallipoli in 1915, Tenaglia said.
> >
> > The biggest challenge facing Iran today would be to actually lay
> the
> > mines
> > without getting caught. "If they are successful in getting mines
> into the
> > water,
> > it's going to take us months to get them out," Tenaglia said.
> >
> >
> >
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