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Ally
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: Notes From Borderland advocate killing Shayler

Those plebs really are no better than Redwatch.
Latest blog links to the wee laddie who tried to storm Shayler on the microphone at the recent Manchester anti-war demo.

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Given that Shayler still supports, and possibly is in MI5, before addressing revolutionaries he should remember that revolutions end with the secret police hanging from the trees.

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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: NFB

NFB are sad t**s who yearn for Arthur Scargill to come and lead them on a "revolution against the state man....." Having b all to do now the days of Left power are gone they dedicate their entire existence into slagging off shayler & co. Heidi Svenson whom I try to take the piss out of as much as possible is an absolute F****G maniac. Shayler doesnt even HAVE a 9/11 book out anyway!!!! Stuipd CS.... If this is the "left" then we are in deep S*. C. _________________ The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist President Eisenhower 1961

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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: NFB

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NFB are sad t***s who yearn for Arthur Scargill to come and lead them on a "revolution against the state man....."

Having b* all to do now the days of Left power are gone they dedicate their entire existence into slagging off shayler & co.

Heidi Svenson whom I try to take the piss out of as much as possible is an absolute F******G maniac.

Shayler doesnt even HAVE a 9/11 book out anyway!!!! Stuipd C****S....

If this is the "left" then we are in deep S***.

C.

Some of these people think that David S was responsible for the incarceration of innocent comrades. I can see no evidence for that
As far as I can see Heidi and her comrades are guilty of deep divisive *. Unbeknown to them , people can move on
They focus us more than the ptb because we are an easier target

See https://www1.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/leedsbradford/2006/11/355372. html
Anyway pity their perception
The West Yorkshire Truth Campaign had some scummy Zionist and pornographic attacks on its forum under a fake Ally screen name
My personal view is that we entry into their goals, on which we can agree at the http://www.nottingham-defy-id.org.uk/gathering which focuses on the nearest real threat
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:37 am Post subject:

Um, what is the NFB? What is this thread all about? Some backgound would be helpful. _________________ Follow the numbers

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:43 am Post subject:

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Um, what is the NFB? What is this thread all about? Some backgound would be helpful.

Notes from the Borderland
A quasi-anarchist lobby with a lot in common with the jref people with one intent
The destruction of the Truth movement
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:55 am Post subject:

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numeral wrote:

Um, what is the NFB? What is this thread all about? Some backgound would be helpful.

Notes from the Borderland
A quasi-anarchist lobby with a lot in common with the jref people with one intent
The destruction of the Truth movement
http://www.borderland.co.uk/

'Scuse my ignorance, jref?
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:08 am Post subject:

The James Randi Educational Foundation, set up to debunk everything detrimental to the status quo, including paranormal phenomena, crop circles and the conspiracry stuff. The meat of Critics Corner Associate of paedophile advocates and CIA MKUltra psychiatrists Take your choice The NFB folks are similar _________________ http://www.exopolitics-leeds.co.uk/introduction

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: Re: NFB

dh wrote:

The West Yorkshire Truth Campaign had some scummy Zionist and pornographic attacks on its forum under a fake Ally screen name

crikey, I wasn't aware of that Paul. Did you save their IP addresses?
With any luck they posted their nonsense from a workplace in which case report them and get them sacked.
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:18 am Post subject:

Thanks Numeral and DH, there must be many newcomers to the site not familiar with some of these acronyms. Makes me think we need a glossary of the more frequently-used ones. Plus of 9/11 terms generally + their historical origin - patsies, moles, gatekeepers, false-flag, dupes, plants, sting-ops, honey-traps etc etc.The daily jargon of the intelligence services who are the operational executives of these crimes, so understanding how they work is key to understanding how this whole syndrome of false/state terror has come about. Webster Tarpley of course is best on all this but not everybody immediately gets round to reading 9/11 Synthetic Terror (but they should - it should be everyone's bible!)

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:34 am Post subject:

And as for killing either David Shayler or Annie over MY dead body. Two of the bravest, best and most honest people in the world and I of all should know (so what does that make me???!!!) Paul Stott, LOH etc. have their place somewhere in the heaving flanks of society for sure but they will never gain access to its heart the way they are going on, which is probably what makes them so mad.

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:37 am Post subject:

And one last word on this before hopefully we put this thread to bed, it has been tried, on more than one occasion but failed.

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:25 am Post subject: Re: NFB

dh wrote:

See https://www1.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/leedsbradford/2006/11/355372. html
Anyway pity their perception
The West Yorkshire Truth Campaign had some scummy Zionist and pornographic attacks on its forum under a fake Ally screen name

This thread is so barmy it's unreal - but to take one point - that above:

The Indymedia thread is nothing do with NFB, and indeed does not even claim to be anything to do with NFB. Still - research, facts - who needs 'em!

I promise to look more closely at Saddam's teeth the next time he is on telly though.

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:33 am Post subject:

Who are you kidding Stott, the whole point of your blog is to encourage dimwits into attacking dh & 911truth through whatever means. Every time dh posted about the westyorks campaign program on indymedia heidi was on his case spewing excrement. _________________

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject:

This is not about them. Anarchists recognise that governments kill thousands of citizens every year in cold blood - its an ineveitable part of government. We do not need a conspiracy theory to see what is in front of our noses Interesting. They know governmetns routinely kill their citizens but are opposed to it being exposed.

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject:

Anarchists are destructive. Some are educated, some are sheep, some are lazy, some are fools, some are dumb but they are all destructive. Anarchism in itself is a rediculous sham, used by COINTEL to break up peaceful protests. _________________ Since when?

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject:

The key word I would pick out here is the use of 'they'. It assumes an 'us' and 'them' worldview as if none of 'us' are anarchists and no anarchists are supporters of the campaign. By definition anarchists are suspicious of hierarchies and power structures. As the Anarchist Federation states in their aims and principles .... We aim for the abolition of all hierarchy, and work for the creation of a world-wide classless society. Given this is the case, I would strongly advise against seeing anarchists as a homogenous group all singing from some central manifesto. Nothing could be further from the truth. Therefore to say 'they' do this or 'they' do that is repeating the same mistake that many of our critics including NFB, Schnews and Rachel North have made in commenting on 'us' Let's not make the same mistake, by saying 'they' are 'opposed to it being exposed'. Just because one person (probably unconnected to NFB or AF) says such and such in response to DH's article on indymedia or another AF supporter said such and such to David Shayler in Manchester, does not mean 'we' can extraplote this and say 'they' (as in all anarchists) do this or that. Ironically the 9/11 truth movement (both in this country and globally) has much in common with anarchism. We have very limited formal structures. We are largely a grassroots network with autonomous local groups. Many of us are strongly opposed to corporatism, hierarchies, global elites and fascism and work for social justice and global co-operation. In this 'we' share a lot with anarchism. To say anarchism is destructive is to fall for stereotypes and cliches. It is far from my experience. My principle objection to the NFB article and website is the tendency to take isolated instances such as choice quotes this forum for example and extrapolate outwards to conclude such individual comments or actions represent all of us and that 'we' are conspiraloonies, a cult, anti-semitic or neo-nazis. This is no more true than assuming that 'spikey' anarchists who like a ruck with the police such as the WOMBLES represent all anarchism. Let 'us' not repeat their error. This campaign has no official spokesperson. We all speak in a personal capacity. Therefore David Shayler is no more a spokesperson than I am or Nafeez is or Ian Henshall is or Ian Crane is or Rowland Morgan is or any of 'us' are. Such a set up has its advantages and disadvantages. There is definately a case for 'us' to get more professional and structured and over the past year we have started putting a structure in place, but as things stand at present, we are what we say we are: a loose network of campaigners who support the call to reopen 9/11. Not a difficult concept and definately not a cult.

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There is definately a case for 'us' to get more professional and structured and over the past year we have started putting a structure in place, but as things stand at present, we are what we say we are: a loose network of campaigners who support the call to reopen 9/11. Not a difficult concept and definately not a cult.

The only structure that seems to be building in this forum is how 1 side could knock severn bells out of the other in a pub brawl Sad

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject:

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The only structure that seems to be building in this forum is how 1 side could knock severn bells out of the other in a pub brawl Sad

Firstly, petty squabbles are not the only thing to happen on this forum. There is a lot of good stuff too.

Secondly, this forum is not the 'be all and end all' of the 9/11 truth campaign. Far from it. Do you imagine the David Ray Griffin talk would have occured if the only organisation was what is apparent from this forum?

No, there are a lot good people busy doing their own thing or supporting events both locally and as in the case of the 5th anniversary events, nationally. If you only know the 9/11 truth movement from what is posted here then you will have a pretty skewed view. I suggest reading Andrew Johnson's summary of our campaigning activities to get a sense of what is happening beyond this forum

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:19 pm Post subject:

ian neal wrote:

The key word I would pick out here is the use of 'they'. It assumes an 'us' and 'them' worldview as if none of 'us' are anarchists and no anarchists are supporters of the campaign.

By definition anarchists are suspicious of hierarchies and power structures. As the Anarchist Federation states in their aims and principles .... We aim for the abolition of all hierarchy, and work for the creation of a world-wide classless society.

Given this is the case, I would strongly advise against seeing anarchists as a homogenous group all singing from some central manifesto. Nothing could be further from the truth. Therefore to say 'they' do this or 'they' do that is repeating the same mistake that many of our critics including NFB, Schnews and Rachel North have made in commenting on 'us'

Let's not make the same mistake, by saying 'they' are 'opposed to it being exposed'. Just because one person (probably unconnected to NFB or AF) says such and such in response to DH's article on indymedia or another AF supporter said such and such to David Shayler in Manchester, does not mean 'we' can extraplote this and say 'they' (as in all anarchists) do this or that.

Ironically the 9/11 truth movement (both in this country and globally) has much in common with anarchism. We have very limited formal structures. We are largely a grassroots network with autonomous local groups. Many of us are strongly opposed to corporatism, hierarchies, global elites and fascism and work for social justice and global co-operation. In this 'we' share a lot with anarchism. To say anarchism is destructive is to fall for stereotypes and cliches. It is far from my experience.

My principle objection to the NFB article and website is the tendency to take isolated instances such as choice quotes this forum for example and extrapolate outwards to conclude such individual comments or actions represent all of us and that 'we' are conspiraloonies, a cult, anti-semitic or neo-nazis. This is no more true than assuming that 'spikey' anarchists who like a ruck with the police such as the WOMBLES represent all anarchism. Let 'us' not repeat their error.

This campaign has no official spokesperson. We all speak in a personal capacity. Therefore David Shayler is no more a spokesperson than I am or Nafeez is or Ian Henshall is or Ian Crane is or Rowland Morgan is or any of 'us' are.

Such a set up has its advantages and disadvantages. There is definately a case for 'us' to get more professional and structured and over the past year we have started putting a structure in place, but as things stand at present, we are what we say we are: a loose network of campaigners who support the call to reopen 9/11. Not a difficult concept and definately not a cult.

A hell of a good insight and resolution as always Ian What I love about the 911 movement is its decentralised initiative -taking style, and that those actively involved are most comradely and friendly
Takes me back to my teenage anarchist years a long time ago, and why I have an issue with some of those so-called anarchists out there, only some - like there were some good ones on the Manchester march scrumpling up the 20 Deception notes in the real hope they might provide a little sustenance - but those idiotic scumbags I've encountered all over who wish to preserve their 19th Century analysis to such an extent that they'll accept every present lie and presentation in order to whip us loons
Well, I seek to antagonise them at every turn, which I know is wrong, as retalioratory stuff leads to what they want

And sorry Ally - the stuff they were pulling on the West Yorkshire forum was atrocious - they even seemed to be using false email addresses such as allysdad@hotmail.com with all sorts of porno pix and antijewish stuff we had to get them off quickly. I'll see if we've got any deleted material I can send to you
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:00 am Post subject:

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Well, I seek to antagonise them at every turn, which I know is wrong, as retalioratory stuff leads to what they want

And sorry Ally - the stuff they were pulling on the West Yorkshire forum was atrocious - they even seemed to be using false email addresses such as allysdad@hotmail.com with all sorts of porno pix and antijewish stuff we had to get them off quickly. I'll see if we've got any deleted material I can send to you

No thanks to the animal porn and the jewbashing stuff dh but if you're serious about winding them up and retaliatoin then there are worse things you could do than supply me with a few IP addresses.
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:54 am Post subject:

Ally wrote:

dh wrote:

Because I realise 9/11 cult members have (by & large)

1) memories like goldfish

2) zero research capabilities

I am again forced, reluctantly, to intervene on this forum to reiterate

a) Notes From the Borderland has never advocated killing Shayler, nor would we--that you creatures have a thread with this misleading title says more about you than us.

b) the pornographic/zionist material you speak about is nothing to do with anybody from NFB, nor would it be.

c) the fact that posters on this forum continue to talk about such evidence-free fantasies is eloquent enough proof that what you say concerning events in Manhattan 5 years ago can hardly be taken seriously.

I do, however, note the implied threat in the above post--having declared it is NFB, without evidence, you are now stating "if you are serious about retaliation there are worse things that you could do than supply me with a few IP addresses". What is that, other than an implied threat?

Of course, you do not tell fellow cult-members that

1) The stuff about Ally's dad & such-like was triggered by him antagonising members of the Mark Thomas forum, nothing to do with NFB

2) when Ally's IP address was posted briefly on the 911cultwatch blog, Paul Stott removed it on request.

All in all, the very existence of this thread, and the continued evidence-free assertions on it, now supplemented by an implied threat of violence against NFB, confirms only too well your movement's status as a sad, nasty, little cult.

I do not say that this includes all your members--but sadly the majority who post here seem to be ever-so-slightly (or more) deranged in various ways. Belinda's affliction in this sense is evident for all to see, but it is interesting that one of the more sane posters, Andy B, shares her belief in the splendid nature of the writings of Webster Tarpley Griffin--whose writings show him to be a conspiracy fruitcake of the highest order.

Given most of you seem to inhabit another planet, it is perhaps forgiveable that none of you have referred to my comments on Sky News last Friday (10/11) regarding Al Qaeda & MI5. For what I said hardly accords with the line from Machon that NFB is working for MI5. But then, she knows all about that anyway...

Any new forum members who have not yet become totally immersed in the headlong flight from reason that predominates here should (before it is too late) visit www.911cultwatch.org.uk

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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:37 am Post subject:

Larry O'Hara wrote:

I do not say that this includes all your members--but sadly the majority who post here seem to be ever-so-slightly (or more) deranged in various ways. Belinda's affliction in this sense is evident for all to see, but it is interesting that one of the more sane posters, Andy B, shares her belief in the splendid nature of the writings of Webster Tarpley Griffin--whose writings show him to be a conspiracy fruitcake of the highest order. If you really think we are being run by our governments rather than corporate lobbysists then your lack of knowledge becomes apparent. It isn't a conspiracy, just how the world works at the moment.

Larry, have you read Synthetic Terror? Here's the review from Amazon.com's top non-fiction reviewer. This isn't conspiracy rubbish but a well researched book that you should read before dismissing so quickly. I thought you were a good researcher and also enjoy having a pop at others claiming bad research.

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It is with great sadness that I conclude that this book is the strongest of the 770+ books I have reviewed here at Amazon, almost all non-fiction. I am forced to conclude that 9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war (see my review of Jim Bamford's "Pretext for War"), and I am forced to conclude that there is sufficient evidence to indict (not necessarily convict) Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and others of a neo-conservative coup d'etat and kick-off of the clash of civilizations (see my review of "Crossing the Rubicon" as well as "State of Denial"). Most fascinatingly, the author links Samuel Huntington, author of "Clash of Civilizations" with Leo Strauss, the connecting rod between Nazi fascists and the neo-cons.

This is, without question, the most important modern reference on state-sponsored terrorism, and also the reference that most pointedly suggests that select rogue elements within the US Government, most likely led by Dick Cheney with the assistance of George Tenet, Buzzy Kronguard, and others close to the Wall Street gangs, are the most guilty of state-sponsored terrorism.

The author draws on historical examples of US fabrication of threats (e.g. the bombing of the USS Maine in Havana Harbor) and many others (Jim Bamford publicized Operation Northwoods). It is an undeniable fact that the U.S. Government has been willing to kill its own citizens and fabricate attacks as part of moving the public.

The author suggests that there is no conclusive evidence that 9/11 was of foreign origin, and to the contrary, quite a bit of evidence that the hijackers had been trained at US military bases, protected by the CIA and FBI, and that the end result of their actions--including controlled flying into buildings and controlled demolitions bringing down three towers, one of which was not hit at all, all suggest a US-based conspiracy.

The author is compelling in his review of the conflicts of interest for each of the 9/11 Commissioners and key staff; he is conclusive in his damnation of their performance and their refusal to be tough with NORAD, the FAA, and many other Executive organizations that refused to cooperate; and he is conclusive on his suggestion that all actual evidence points to the Pentagon being hit by a missile rather than an airplane.

The author is especially compelling in condemning Rudy Guilliani as part of the conspiracy, and as the "bud" of the extreme right charged with cleaning up the crime scene. Instead of making the area off-limits, Gulliani moved aggressively to "scoop and dump" to the point that firefighters rioted.

I believe it enough to want a full investigation that passes the smell test of the 9/11 families as well as objective outside observers. I believe it sufficient to indict Dick Cheney and other neo-cons. Sadly, the Executive is now in the service of corporations that benefit from high crimes and misdemeanors, rather than in the service of the American people who suffer great ill from these terrible mis-deeds.

My bottom line: justice has NOT been done, and this book, together with Crossing the Rubicon, is a major reason why I believe that eventually, Dick Cheney and others will be brought to justice. The people now have a digital memory and collective intelligence. Bin Laden Dead or Alive? Mission Accomplished? Civil liberties at home, democracy abroad? Just who are we kidding? More to the point, who are we betraying if not ourselves?

In fairness to Dick Cheney, I also wonder if he is not the fall guy for Wall Street and the gnomes of Zurich. I am waiting for him to have a heart attack while getting a routine medical check-up....the Ken Lay defense, but imposed by those who are willing to assassinate the John Kennedy's and Bobby Kennedy's of our world.

As I said to Paul Stott, it seems odd that you guys are putting so much time and effort into the 9/11 campaign, who allegedly share a goal with yourselves of getting rid of the security services. If you have any good evidence of security service skullduggery then post it and you'll get people on board. By constantly attacking us by using Ally and a few others as straw men then people will be suspicious of you. As has also been mentioned, this forum is not the campaign and anyone can post things here under their real names or pseudonyms and no-one here is a voice for the campaign.
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I take it Larry O Hara is a supporter of the OGCT? If this is a correct assessment then please can you make future posts in Critic's Corner, as requested in our sign up notice. Post a link to the thread which you are referring. Thanks for following our request. _________________ Andrew Ask the Tough Questions, Folks!

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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject:

Hey Larry, are you still 'hearing voices'?

I see a whole book has been written in your honour, and you have the cheek to call others deranged. Lol

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But sometimes things go wrong, and an individual becomes so obsessed by the paradigm they've adopted that they find themselves unable to abandon preconceived ideas regardless of how much evidence piles up against them. We call such people mad, and Larry O'Hara provides a prime example of how a human mind can become deformed by fixed ideas. A staunch and thoroughly deluded CHristian, O'Hara is fully convinced that Stewart Home is a demonic shapeshifter from a hellish anti-Euclidean dimension!

http://praxis.c8.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/23_38/products_id/ 763

Man, the stuff I been reading about you hasn't made laugh this much in ages, I can see why your mag's entitled Notes From Cloud Cuckoo Land. I suggest sticking to bashing your bible and getting hefty dose of tablets from the local GP. Walter Mitty's got nowt you you mate.

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he is of course Britain's premier smear campaigner.

Obviously not getting the publicity he so craves, he has turned to Indy Media to get some.

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To describe O'Hara as an antifascist of any kind is however dubious. Making friends with nazis is hardly the work of a good antifascist, neither is being their errand boy.

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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject:

Andrew Johnson wrote:

I take it Larry O Hara is a supporter of the OGCT?

He is 110% a believer in the government's story.
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject:

Ally wrote:

Andrew Johnson wrote:

I take it Larry O Hara is a supporter of the OGCT?

He is 110% a believer in the government's story.

Evidence?

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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject:

ian neal wrote:

Ally wrote:

Andrew Johnson wrote:

I take it Larry O Hara is a supporter of the OGCT?

He is 110% a believer in the government's story.

Evidence?

He told me himself, I've not time to look for it just now but I bet you a £1,000,000 Walter Mitty wont refute it.

He said 911 was an 'intelligence failure' and 19 Arabs were behind it.

Hey Ian, why you think he's just be on SKY news giving his 'expert' opinion on Al-Qaeda and Mi5?

And why do you think he's now going out his tiny mind to attack us?
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject:

Here's Stott's position:

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I recall correctly I agreed with its general thrust - the hijackers had observed the first law of guerilla warfare (you use the enemies own weapons against him) and that the US had arguably brought all this on themselves by getting into bed with the Afghans during the Cold War.

BLOWBACK peddlers.

Walter Mitty even denies WTC7 was demolished.
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject:

You see the reason I ask what evidence there is to state Larry's opinion on 9/11 is that it is not obvious In this post from just over a year ago, Larry says he will start researching 9/11 'properly' and I have yet to see his conclusions. I would have thought the decision to back the Kean Commission or back the call for a new investigation was a fairly straight forward one myself but then I'm a simple soul. Atleast in the call for a new inquiry we can count on Paul Stott's support In this recent post, Larry atleast comes close to recognising there are important questions that require further investigation that throw the Kean Report into question.

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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject:

Larry recently launched an attack on me on another forum for saying WTC7 was demolished so what camp does that put him in Ian? And how many flicks have they handed out and how many events have they tried to launch to publicise the fact 911 was an inside job Ian? Don't waste my time asking for evidence Ian if you're not gonna answer my questions.

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