Annie Machon comment on Eliza Manningham Buller?

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SSSSCH!! I'm doing this on my laptop under the bed as I just heard on Radio five live that someone called Dame Eliza Dolittle, head of MI5 says there are a squillion Al Quaeda cells planning terrorist mayhem on the UK mainland, this was endorsed by our dear leader ...honest Tone'

What does Annie think?

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How lovely. My very own thread in Critics' Corner. I've just posted this in the News section, but it seems to be pertinent:

"Glad to see that David Shayler was invited on to Sky News to talk abut the latest Bond film, but not Newsnight about Al Qaeda. This is despite the fact that he blew the whistle on MI5 allowing thousands of sympathisers into the UK from France in the 1990s. And the French intelligence agencies warned MI5 of what was happening. Anyone would think that the forces of darkness wanted to ensure that there was a viable Islamic extremist terrorist threat....."

I have been indeed been vaguely "out of the loop", as they say in MI5. Off round the country doing 911 talks. But I did so miss being plugged into a computer. David and I have a number of other talks lined up before Xmas. How about some of you critics coming along and asking intelligent questions face to face, rather than lurking on your keyboards. Or are you too chicken?

Regards

Annie

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Come and find out.

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I am a 9/11 truth campaigner, but I would like to posit a couple of possible scenarios about the integrity or otherwise of Annie & David.

1. They are both plants working to keep tabs on the more active campaigners, but HMG are not interested in their extra-curricular jaunts.

2. They are both plants, and HMG are very interested.

3. They are genuine, but HMG are using them to keep tabs on the more active campaigners.

4. They are genuine, and HMG are not interested.

The only ones to make sense are scenarios 2 & 3.

So in a sense, it really doesn't matter whether they have any integrity or not. You can rest assured that HMG are interested in the more active campaigners, and very probably have informants in place, if not actual Special Branch infiltrators.

I favour scenario 3. It is the cheapest, as well as the most intellectually satisfying : everyone is a winner.

A word about bad management and campaigning style. We are doing the government's work for them if we have bullying, authoritarian muppets in the organization. They only serve to put people off joining in, and becoming more active.

I have been highly critical of some of the muppetry shown on these forums and at public meetings. There is a very good reason for that : those people are a liability and need to take a good hard look at themselves.

It is all too easy to fall into the trap of shooting the messenger. The hard bit is actually rating the information, and acting apon real concerns, rather than pandering to a self-appointed junta, who seem oblivious to their detrimental effects.

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Annie, you bringing DAve up to his old stomping grounds any time soon? Still dont agree but wouldnt mind nipping along to a talk if it didnt involve a 3 hour drive ;)

Make it mid week, he can spit on the Stadium of Light without anyone noticing ;)

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Annie playing hard to get eh? well my opinion of this latest government scare initiative is that if there were 30 plus known terrorist plots to bomb the UK mainland they would surely be able to arrest them on grounds of conspiracy, any legal eagles out there?

(can we keep north east football rivalry off the forum please)

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Hi KC. I would love to get Dave up there doing a 911 talk, but weekends are always best. It would be cruel to get him so close to the Riverside without a chance of watching MFC crash and burn as usual! Any supporters in the NE who fancy arranging an inaugural meeting?

SH - not playing hard to get, just very, very busy, so sorry. I'm sure that there is a threat from Islamic extremist terrorism in this country - and Bliar bears a diabolical responsibility to having put us at greater risk. While I would say that "Al Qaeda" was originally a CIA/MI6 construct, it has now become an all-too real idealogy and is in effect, a many-headed hydra.

But that doesn't negate the threat of false-flag terrorist ops, safely embedded within this. Again, David and I saw this directly in the case of the Gadaffi plot - the reason we went public and the reason the British establishment treated him more harshly than other whistleblowers.

Yes, Bullying-Manner's comments did make me chuckle, so get out from under the bed. One of the concerns we had when we blew the whistle was how MI5 artificially inflated threats to boost their status/funding/staff levels. No surprises there, naturally, but we saw this in action.

Regards

Annie

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He never pissed us off so we didnt track him down :)

In my 15 years experience of LAN parties and flame wars I've always found keyboard warriors to be the worst fighters in the world, think I;ve only ever seen one who did something other than collect footprints on his neck for 10 minutes ;)

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