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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Everyone - Formally Complain to the BBC Online - NOW! Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/make_complaint_step1.shtml

I just sent this!

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

I have a general complaint about the impartiality of the BBC on some extremely important issues.

 

Over nearly the last 18 months, it has come to my attention that there are grave and serious problems regarding the official story of the 9-11 attacks. Since I first became aware of these problems in approximately August 2004, a number of significant things have happened and these have not been covered by the BBC:

 

1)      In September 2004, an event, organised by Florida Millionaire Jimmy Walter called “Confronting the Evidence” was held in New York City where researchers presented to the public some of the facts which were not addressed by Kean Commission.

 

·        Facts such as the collapse times of the World Trade Centre Towers 1, 2 & 7 being close to those for “free-fall”.

·        Facts such as the collapse of WTC 7 happening at 5:30 in the evening when no plane had hit this building.

·        Facts such as the WTC Owner Larry Silverstein saying building 7 had been “pulled” by the FDNY, even though the FDNY do not “pull” buildings.

·        Facts such as the FEMA report about WTC 7 saying (essentially) the cause of the collapse was “unknown” (despite the *owner’s* comments above)

2)      In November 2004, a group of people presented a Citizen’s Complaint to the Attorney General of New York (Elliot Spitzer) regarding the Unsolved Crimes committed in New York City on Sept 11th 2001 (including those committed by the EPA stating that the air was safe to breathe).

3)      In May 2005, Jimmy Walter organised a number of public hearings in London and other European cities discussing the evidence raised above.

4)      A new group has formed (of which I am privileged to be a member)  called Scholars for 9-11 Truth.

 

There are a great many other issues  and facts and questions which news researchers at the BBC ought to be seriously looking at, especially now. The BBC ought to be looking at our Website (www.st911.org). It ought to be reporting facts rather than fear-mongering rumour about “1 or 2 dead swans in Europe”.

 

Whoever is stopping this reporting, it seems, has a fair degree of control. I suggest that whomever is reading this stop whatever they are doing and look at a selection of facts, data and video evidence presented on either the above site or www.st911.org,  www.reopen911.org.

 

I submitted the Press Release below to many addresses at the BBC and have repeatedly advised them of significant stories which they have not researched and reported on. There stories involve former US Bush Administration people, for example. What on Earth do you think you are doing? I can not for the life of me understand what has got into you. Why aren’t you researching and reporting this? Why am I out on the streets (literally) giving this information to people – spending 100’s of pounds of my own money - when I pay a licence fee so that you can do this?

 

I am now lodging a formal complaint about impartiality and expect a response in 2 weeks. If an appropriate response is not forthcoming, I will be taking legal advice over this issue and finding out how I can get the BBC to report this verifiable evidence in a measured and appropriate manner. The pattern of events that is now unfolding necessitates that action of this sort is taken as quickly as possible. (For this reason, I have kept a copy of this complaint on my computer).

 

You must take this issue seriously, because you need to catch up with people who already know what is happening. Time is running short. Please act quickly and appropriately.

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

Andrew Johnson

22 Mear Drive

Borrowash

Derbyshire

DE72 3QW

 

 

Scholars for 9/11 Truth

http://www.st911.org/

 

OP/ED: SCHOLARS REPUDIATE OFFICIAL VERSION OF 9/11

Claim government's account violates laws of physics and engineering

27 January  2006

An influential group of prominent experts and scholars have joined together alleging that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really happened on 9/11. The members of this new non-partisan association, "Scholars for 9/11 Truth" (S9/11T), are convinced their research proves the current administration has been dishonest with the nation about events in New York and Washington, D.C.

These experts contend that books and articles by members and associates have established that the World Trade Center was almost certainly brought down by controlled demolitions and that the available relevant evidence casts grave doubt on the official story about the attack on the Pentagon. They believe that the government not only permitted 9/11 to occur but may even have orchestrated these events to facilitate its political agenda.

The society includes U.S. and international faculty and students of history, science, military affairs, psychology, and even philosophy. According to its spokesmen, S9/11T represents a concerted effort to uphold the standards of truth and justice and to strengthen democracy in this nation, which has taken a terrible hit in the aftermath of 9/11, when "everything changed." Its function is to bring scientific rigor to the study of 9/11 phenomena.

The members of this group are dedicated to exposing falsehoods and to revealing truths behind 9/11, "letting the chips fall where they may." The evidence has become sufficiently strong that they are speaking out. They are actively devoting themselves to reporting the results of their research to the public by means of lectures, articles, and other venues.

The society includes numerous notable professors and scholars, including:

·  Morgan Reynolds, Texas A & M Professor Emeritus of Economics, former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor for President George W. Bush, and former Director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis
 

·  Steven E. Jones, Professor of Physics, Brigham Young University, co-chair of S9/11T and the creator of its home page and its forum
 

·  Robert M. Bowman, former Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" Space Defense Program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, and a former Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat missions
 

·  Lloyd DeMause, Director of The Institute for Psychohistory, President of the International Psychohistorical Association and Editor of The Journal of Psychohistory
 

·  James H. Fetzer, Distinguished McKnight University Professor of Philosophy at the University of Minnesota, Duluth, author or editor of more than 20 books and co-chair of S9/11T
 

·  Andreas Von Buelow, former assistant German defense minister, director of the German Secret Service, minister for research and technology, and member of Parliament for 25 years

The society, founded by Professors Fetzer and Jones, who serve as its co-chairs, is approaching 50 members to date. Fetzer, a philosopher of science, observed that the government's "official account" is not even physically possible, because it violates laws of nature. "What we have been told is fine," he said, "if you are willing to believe impossible things. Serious scholars don't believe in tooth fairies."

Beyond encouraging its members to vigorously express their concerns on this score through lectures, conferences, symposia, articles, and books as well as other access routes that publicize their findings,the society's initial activities, which are expected to increase in frequency and intensity, include the following projects and endeavors:

·  Professor Jones is refining his influential analysis of the physics of the collapse of buildings at the World Trade Center.
 

·  Professor Fetzer is editing a collection of new studies about 9/11 that will include contributions from the members of S9/11T.
 

·  A major conference is being planned for this fall to further inform the American public about the group's most recent findings

Studies by the society's founders and by prominent theologian David Ray Griffin, who has taken a leading role in exposing false claims about 9/11, are accessible from the association's home page, scholarsfor911truth.org. Information for those who may want to join S9/11T can also be found there.


OP/ED: THE OFFICIAL 9/11 STORY IS A HOAX

We call for verification and publication by an international consortium.

29 January 2006

We believe that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really happened on 9/11. We are therefore joining together in common cause as members of "Scholars for 9/11 Truth" (S9/11T), because we are convinced, based on our own research, that the administration has been deceiving the nation about critical events in New York and Washington, D.C.

We believe these events may have been orchestrated by elements within the administration to manipulate Americans into supporting policies at home and abroad they would never have condoned absent "another Pearl Harbor." We appreciate that this White House is incapable of investigating itself and would prefer to believe that the possibility that Congress might hold an unaccountable administration accountable is not merely wishful thinking.

We encourage news services around the world to secure scientific advice by taking advantage of university resources to verify or to falsify our discoveries. Extraordinary situations require extraordinary measures. If this were done, one of the great hoaxes of history would stand naked before the eyes of the world and its perpetrators would be clearly exposed, which may be the only hope for saving this nation from ever greater abuse.

We trust this might include The New York Times, which, in our opinion, has repeatedly failed to exercise the leadership we expect from our nation's newspaper of record by a series of inexplicable lapses. It has failed to vigorously investigate tainted elections, lies leading to the war in Iraq, or illegal NSA spying on the American people, major unconstitutional events. Perhaps it might compensate for its loss of stature by helping to reveal the truth about one of the great turning-point events of modern history.

Stunning as it may be to acknowledge, the government has brought but one indictment against anyone and, to the best of our knowledge, has not even reprimanded anyone for incompetence or dereliction of duty. The official conspiracy theory--that nineteen Arab hijackers under control of one man in the wilds of Afghanistan brought this about--is unsupportable by the evidentiary data. There appear to be good reasons for suspecting that video tapes officially attributed to Osama bin Laden are not genuine.

The 9/11 Commission, designated to investigate the attack, was directed by Philip Zelikow, part of the Bush transition team in the NSA sector and the co-author of a book with Condoleezza Rice. A Bush supporter and director of national security affairs, he could hardly be expected to conduct an objective and impartial investigation. The 9/11 Commission Report is replete with omissions, distortions, and factual errors, which David Ray Griffin has documented in his book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions. The official report, for example, entirely ignores the collapse of WTC7, a 47-story building, which was hit by no airplanes, was only damaged by a few small fires, and fell seven hours after the attack.

Here are some of the kinds of considerations that are profoundly troubling to objective reason:

·  In the history of structural engineering, steel-frame high-rise buildings have never been brought down due to fires either before or since 9/11, so how can fires have brought down three in one day? How is this possible?
 

·  The BBC has reported that at least five of the nineteen alleged "hijackers" have turned up alive and well living in Saudi Arabia, yet according to the FBI, they were among those killed in the attacks. How is this possible?
 

·  Frank DeMartini, a project manager for the WTC, said the buildings were designed with load redistribution capabilities to withstand the impact of airliners, whose effects would be like "puncturing mosquito netting with a pencil." Yet they completely collapsed. How is this possible?
 

·  Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700°F, the temperature of jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800° under optimal conditions, and UL certified the steel used to 2,000°F for six hours, the buildings cannot have collapsed due to heat from the fires. How is this possible?
 

·  Flight 77, which allegedly hit the building, left the radar screen in the vicinity of the Ohio/Kentucky border, only to "reappear" in very close proximity to the Pentagon shortly before impact. How is this possible?
 

·  Foreign "terrorists" who were clever enough to coordinate hijacking four commercial airliners seemingly did not know that the least damage to the Pentagon would be done by hitting its west wing. How is this possible?
 

·  Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta, in an underground bunker at the White House, watched Vice President Cheney castigate a young officer for asking, as the plane drew closer and closer to the Pentagon, "Do the orders still stand?" The order cannot have been to shoot it down, but must have been the opposite. How is this possible?
 

·  A former Inspector General for the Air Force has observed that Flight 93, which allegedly crashed in Pennsylvania, should have left debris scattered over an area less than the size of a city block; but it is scattered over an area of about eight square miles. How is this possible?
 

·  A tape recording of interviews with air traffic controllers on duty on 9/11 was deliberately crushed, cut into very small pieces, and distributed in assorted places to insure its total destruction. How is this possible?
 

·  The Pentagon conducted a training exercise called "MASCAL" simulating the crash of a Boeing 757 into the building on 24 October 2000, and yet Condoleezza Rice, among others, has repeatedly asserted that "no one ever imagined" a domestic airplane could be used as a weapon. How is this possible? Physics research establishes that only controlled demolitions are consistent with the near-gravity speed of fall and virtually symmetrical collapse of all three of the WTC buildings. While turning concrete into very fine dust, they fell straight-down into their own footprints. We are obliged to conclude that the 9/11 atrocity represents an instance of the approach--which has been identified by Karl Rove, the President's closest adviser--of "creating our own reality."

• Robert M. Bowman • James H. Fetzer • 
• Wayne Madsen • John McMurtry • 
• Morgan Reynolds • Andreas von Buelow •

 

 

 

 

 


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

done andrew, good job!

i just used yours as a template and changed a few details. anyone else who sends them an email, could they make a wee post here

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one Andrew!

Just fired in my complaint as follows:-


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Having read David Ray Griffin's book "The New Pearl Harbour" it is clear to me that the official version of the events of 911 as reported by the BBC is a travesty of the truth.

My complaint is that it would appear, based on the compelling evidence presented by 911 skeptics, that the BBC is not independent and impartial as it is not prepared to give any coverage to this serious issue.

Is the BBC complicit with those responsible for the events of 911?

If it is not then please inform me when the compelling evidence will feature on the BBC.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:25 am    Post subject: BBC Charter Reply with quote

I haven't written mine yet, but I think I shall draw their attention to the fact that the BBC Charter demands impartiality and that they normally claim to deal with that by presenting both sides of an argument. They are therefore in breach of their charter on the 911 issue.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:46 am    Post subject: So much news so little time Reply with quote

I've been reading alot about Saddam's request to be paid in Euros and the Iranian Oil Bourse, both of which have gone completely unreported by the BBC. I formally complained and was told that although they understand my concerns, they had to be selective in the news that they reported as in so many words there was so much news and so little time. Stupidly, I deleted the email but that was what I was told.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"The world is a dangerous place not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing"


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone received a response yet from the BBC?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't received a response - they said 10 working days (or 10 days) I am going to give them 10 working days (too long for something like this) and then ring them up and ask to convene a special meeting of the governors - either that or I will be pursuing the legal angle - I encourage others to do this - or write additional letters saying that they will do this.

The BBC is in breach of its charter and we must now act quickly to bring them into line.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: BBC communication Reply with quote

Well Done Andrew

You are a credit to the 9/11 Truth Campaign along with all the other good people.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Sonic, Andrew would be the no. 1 choice in my team!

Based on the content of your posts to date Sonic, I think I would also choose you!

I have no doubt that the truth does unite people and I feel that before the end of 2006 we will all meet at a huge gathering of the 911 Truth campaign (Britain & Ireland). I look forward to that!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for those kind comments, peeps. I greatly appreciate them - and I draw great strength from them, and from your own collective and individual efforts in our campaign for the future humanity.

Take care

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pikey said:Yes Sonic, Andrew would be the no. 1 choice in my team!

Based on the content of your posts to date Sonic, I think I would also choose you!

I have no doubt that the truth does unite people and I feel that before the end of 2006 we will all meet at a huge gathering of the 911 Truth campaign (Britain & Ireland). I look forward to that!

Peace & truth

You are very kind Pikey, but overgenerous in your selection.

I too hope we will all meet before the end of 2006, in the meantime I will just keep doing my little bit for the truth campaign.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very rapid research finds that the BBC Charter and Agreement can be found at:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/policies/charter/

To quote from this page:
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The BBC is constitutionally established by a Royal Charter. An accompanying Agreement recognises its editorial independence and sets out its public obligations in detail.


To quote from section 3 (Programme Content) of the Agreement:

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3.2 The requirements referred to in subclause 3.1 are that the Home Services -
(c) contain comprehensive, authoritative and impartial coverage of news and current affairs in the United Kingdom and throughout the world to support fair
and informed debate at local, regional and national levels


I don't think it could be clearer than that what the obligations on the BBC are. I too shall be sending a complaint.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garrett - super - I had only heard the terms of the charter - good to have a link to the actual copy!!
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The BBC lost their teeth after Hutton & there is a decreasing amount of serious reporting which examines the issues without just dishing out the government line. (We saw last night on Channel 4 Despatches how the media plays along with the governments Spin Machine).

I recommend the MediaLens site for (as it states) 'correcting for the distorted vision of the corporate media'

Their article of today points out the inherent bias in their reporting of the 'news' in Iraq. The article is quoted below.

The message board is also useful - if anyone ever sends any e-mails etc. to journalists in response to articles, you should copy them to Medialens.

& a fact that I found out just recently, Paul Reynolds, the current BBC World Affairs correspondent who is behind the recent proclamations on the seriousness of the IRAN NUCLEAR ISSUE (i.e the drive to a strike on Iran -there is no mention whatsoever of the Iranian Oil Bourse on any BBC page - except in the submitted public comments pages here), was the BBC correspondent in Washington DC in September 2001. Is it a coincidence that the same BBC reporter is the gatekeeper of information relating to activities directly responsible (or not - you decide, or he decides for you) for the drive to war.


From http://www.medialens.org/alerts/index.php
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MEDIA ALERT: OIL FOR THE KILLING MACHINE - THE BBC ON IRAQ


"There is no subjugation so perfect as that which keeps the appearance of freedom, for in that way one captures volition itself." (Jean-Jacques Rousseau - Emile)



The political analyst Bertram Gross argued that there is no great malice driving the coalition of "the ultra-rich, the corporate overseers, and the brass in the military and civilian order" as it "squelches the rights and liberties of other people both at home and abroad". It is just that their pursuit of profit inevitably means that other people pay the price in pollution, poverty, unemployment and war. But "that is not part of their central purpose. It is the product of invisible hands that are not theirs". (Gross, Friendly Fascism, South End Press, 1980, p.162)

It is this almost accidental brutality that Gross described as "friendly fascism".

There is also no great evil intent in the minds of journalists - very much part of this same wealthy "coalition" - as they reflexively defend the establishment of which they are a part.

On its main evening news last week, the BBC's royal and diplomatic correspondent, Nicholas Witchell, reported from Baghdad on a video which showed (not "appeared to show" as many journalists insist) British troops beating a group of young Iraqis. This was unfortunate, Witchell observed, because the foreign troops in Iraq are there "in an essentially peacekeeping role". (Witchell, BBC1 19:35 News, February 12, 2006)

Witchell would doubtless reject out of hand the suggestion that Soviet troops occupying Afghanistan in the 1980s were there "in an essentially peacekeeping role". Likewise, the Iraqi troops occupying Kuwait in August 1990.

The same unthinking prejudice was exhibited in a Guardian leader on the British abuses. The editors observed that of the 80,000 British personnel who have now served in Iraq "only a tiny handful have committed any crimes. Still, even isolated 'rogue' breaches of military law and international conventions echo loudly". (Leader, 'Abuse allegations: Behind Basra's walls,' The Guardian, February 13, 2006)

It is beyond the Guardian to accept that the entire invading force is responsible for breaches of international conventions simply by being in Iraq. And yet a September 17, 2004, Guardian editorial noted that the UN secretary-general, Kofi Annan, had said of the invasion:

"From our point of view and from the [UN] charter point of view, it was illegal." (Leader, 'Kofi Annan on Iraq: The war
was illegal,' The Guardian, September 17, 2004)

The Guardian highlighted the fact that Annan included, "No caveats. No equivocation. None of the ambiguity loved by diplomats, especially at UN headquarters."

Annan's view is shared by many experts on international law. In March 2003, the International Commission of Jurists (ICJ) in Geneva expressed its "deep dismay" that a small number of states were "poised to launch an outright illegal invasion of Iraq, which amounts to a war of aggression". According to the ICJ, such "a war waged without a clear mandate from the United Nations Security Council" constituted "a flagrant violation of the prohibition of the use of force". ('Iraq - ICJ Deplores Moves Toward a War of Aggression on Iraq,' International Commission of Jurists, March 18, 2003;
http://www.icj.org/news.php3?id_article=2770&lang=en)

In a standard display of moral sleep-walking, the Observer's Mary Riddell wrote recently of Afghanistan and Iraq: "Britain is embroiled in two... ill-judged interventions". (Riddell, 'The soldier's song has become a lament,' The Observer, February 5, 2006)

Is that what they are - just "ill-judged interventions"? Does that really do justice to what we have done to these countries?

Riddell mentioned US-UK military fatalities and cited the lowest available estimate of Iraqi civilian deaths (30,000). As ever, no mention was made of Iraqi military casualties.

After presenting his conservative estimate of 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths to Pentagon officials last autumn, Les Roberts of the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health was told by one official: "We have dropped about 50,000 bombs, mostly on insurgents hiding behind civilians. What the [expletive] did you think was going to happen?"

In an article for the website AlterNet last week, Roberts argued that the estimate of 20,000 to 30,000 civilian deaths commonly cited in the American press are too low, "most likely by a factor of five or ten". In other words, Roberts is now suggesting that as many as 300,000 Iraqi civilians may have been killed since March 2003. (Roberts, 'Do Iraqi Civilian Casualties Matter?' AlterNet, February 14, 2006; http://www.alternet.org/story/31508/)


Claims And Facts - The Difference

The BBC's director of news, Helen Boaden, replied to us recently:

"Dear Mr Edwards

Thank you for your emails of January 5th.

To deal first with your suggestion that it is factually incorrect to say that an aim of the British and American coalition was to bring democracy and human rights, this was indeed one of the stated aims before and at the start of the Iraq war - and I attach a number of quotes at the bottom of this reply." (Email to Media Lens, January 20, 2006)

This was Boaden's defence of reporter Paul Wood's assertion that British and American forces "came to Iraq in the first place to bring democracy and human rights". (BBC, News at Ten, January 5, 2006) Boaden supplied no less than 2,700 words filling six pages of A4 paper of quotes from George Bush and Tony Blair to prove her point.

We replied:

"Dear Helen

Many thanks. It's an interesting argument. I look forward to the following opening statement on BBC's News At Ten:

'A recorded message believed to have been made by al Qaeda leader, Osama bin Laden, has surfaced tonight. Bin Laden, whose forces originally attacked the United States on September 11, 2001 to bring freedom and human rights to the Middle East, said...'

Given that, like Bush and Blair, bin Laden has indeed claimed these goals in speeches, do you see any inherent problem with broadcasting this comment? If so, what?

Best wishes

David Edwards" (January 20, 2006)

Boaden replied:

"Dear Mr Edwards

We have on numerous occasions sought to elucidate the motivation of Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. We have also on innumerable occasions examined the role, reasoning and the outcomes of US and UK actions in Iraq. The range of our reporting and programmes enables audiences to make up their own minds about the issue, just as you have done.

Yours sincerely
Helen Boaden
Director, BBC News" (Email, January 31, 2006)

Again Boaden misses the point. It is fine to report claims of benevolent intent - it is something else to report those claims as obvious fact. Whereas the BBC would never dream of delivering bin Laden's claims this way, it is second nature with regard to Bush and Blair. Thus, the BBC's Washington correspondent, Matt Frei, said in 2003:

"There's no doubt that the desire to bring good, to bring American values to the rest of the world, and especially now to the Middle East... is now increasingly tied up with military power." (Frei, BBC1, Panorama, April 13, 2003)

Imagine Frei saying: 'There's no doubt that the desire to bring good, to bring al Qaeda's values to the rest of the world, and especially to the Middle East, is now increasingly tied up with military power.'

In April 2003, Nicholas Witchell declared of the rapid fall of Baghdad to US forces:

"It is absolutely, without a doubt, a vindication of the strategy." (Witchell, BBC1, 18:00 News, April 9, 2003)

Imagine Witchell saying of Saddam Hussein's rapid drive into Kuwait:

'It is absolutely, without a doubt, a vindication of the strategy.'

In October 2004, Ben Brown said:

"The people of southern Iraq know they have their freedom." (Brown, BBC1, 22:00 News, October 20, 2004)

The list goes on...

Why is all of this important? Very simply because the BBC, like other media, is producing an endless flow of insidious messages downplaying the criminality of what Britain and America have done to Iraq. If the public can be persuaded to re-label cynical 'sincere', illegal 'ill-judged', vicious 'victorious' and killing 'keeping the peace', then we are likely to feel that what we have done is 'not that bad'.

This is important because only public resistance, only public concern, stands between our violent, greed-driven political system and future victims. Only intense and widespread public opposition can put the brakes on this killing machine - the media's job is to stop us trying.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The response from the BBC remains one of silence.

Does anyone have a rational and logical explanation of why a media which proclaims to be professional and independent would react to such information in this way?

By the way Sonic, just read your post on your latest contribution to the campaign, supplying dvds, that justifies what I stated about you, you'd be in my team!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got an email from the BBC

Dear Mr McGuire

Thank you for your e-mail.

I understand that you feel that the BBC has not covered developments
regarding the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks on New York in enough
depth.

However, BBC News teams have been committed to covering the events of 11 September 2001 impartially, factually and fairly and have devoted
considerable time to the issue over the years. I can assure you that we
will continue to do so and have registered your feedback for the attention
of Senior BBC News teams.

Thank you again for taking the time to contact us.

Regards

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kenny,

Thanks for sharing the response.


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However, BBC News teams have been committed to covering the events of 11 September 2001 impartially, factually and fairly and have devoted
considerable time to the issue over the years. I can assure you that we
will continue to do so and have registered your feedback for the attention
of Senior BBC News teams.


"Impartially, factually, fairly" .......what an absolute load of bullshine!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only received 1 response after perhaps 20 communications in the last year. This was the response (from last April):


19 April 2005

Dear Mr Johnson

Thank you for your letter of 16 April. I should explain that the remit of the Editorial Complaints Unit is confined to cases which give reason to believe there may have been a breach of editorial standards in a specific item broadcast or published by the BBC. As you complaint doesn't fall into that category, I'm passing it to BBC Information, who will ensure that your concerns arc noted and arrange for a reply if appropriate.

Yours sincerely
Douglas Evans

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Unlike Kenny, I have not received any response to my e-mails. I have therefore composed a new letter - based on the old one, but more strongly worded (and it is going by recorded delivery). Have included their response to Kenny as an example of one which will trigger legal action.

RE: News Cover-up and Denial – Serious Breach of BBC’s Charter.

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am not sure whether I have sent this to the correct address/department. After reading and inwardly digesting the information contained herein, please can you forward this letter to the appropriate department/person.

I have a general complaint about the impartiality of the BBC on some extremely important issues. I have written to many people, mainly by e-mail - on a number of occasions – about these issues. I have e-mailed BBC radio presenters, News Feedback and Helen Boaden with many of the details included below. I have telephoned the number on the complaints web page (08700 1002222) and basically was told that, as my complaint related to news coverage (or rather lack thereof), it was up to news editors to make a decision on what can easily be verified as fact (kind of fair enough, but not really fair when the time periods involved are considered). I have informed local BBC radio and had my messages deleted without being read. This stone-walling will come to an end soon – it’s only a matter of time, because you are in breach of your charter.

The BBC Charter and Agreement (found at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/policies/charter/ ) states:

The BBC is constitutionally established by a Royal Charter. An accompanying Agreement recognises its editorial independence and sets out its public obligations in detail.

To quote from section 3 (Programme Content) of the Agreement:

3.2 The requirements referred to in subclause 3.1 are that the Home Services -

(c) contain comprehensive, authoritative and impartial coverage of news and current affairs in the United Kingdom and throughout the world to support fair and informed debate at local, regional and national levels

With this in mind, I am now presenting you with a few easily verifiable facts. Further information can be found in the enclosed DVD Presentation “9/11 Revisited: Scientific and Ethical Questions” given by Steven E. Jones, Professor of Physics, Brigham Young University. I am doing this because I am a member of the Scholars for 9-11 Truth group and in this capacity, and that of a person with 20 years technical experience in the fields of Software Engineering, Development and Education, I will not be marginalized by sketchy, glib and inaccurate news coverage which, it seems, is ill-informed, to say the least. Our group includes at least 3 distinguished Professors – one of whom served as an economist in the 2000 GW Bush Administration. All are stating categorically that the Official Story of 9-11 is seriously in error in a number of key areas. Now, let me make 1 thing clear – I originally assumed (for at least 2 years) that the Official Story was correct in the most important details. It wasn’t until I became aware of a number of salient facts, that I realised the truth of the matter.

To mention some specific points, then, it has come to my attention (over nearly the last 18 months), that there are grave and serious problems regarding the official story of the 9-11 attacks. Since I first became aware of these problems in approximately August 2004, a number of significant things have happened and these have not been adequately covered (or even covered at all) by the BBC:

1)       In September 2004, an event, organised by Florida Millionaire Jimmy Walter called “Confronting the Evidence” was held in New York City where researchers presented to the public some of the facts which were not addressed by Kean Commission.

·         Facts such as the collapse times of the World Trade Centre Towers 1, 2 & 7 being close to those for “free-fall”.

·         Facts such as the collapse of WTC 7 happening at 5:30 in the evening when no plane had hit this building.

·         Facts such as the WTC Owner Larry Silverstein saying building 7 had been “pulled” by the FDNY, even though the FDNY do not “pull” buildings.

·         Facts such as the FEMA report about WTC 7 saying (essentially) the cause of the collapse was “unknown” (despite the *owner’s* comments above)

2)                              In November 2004, a group of people presented a Citizen’s Complaint to the Attorney General of New York (Elliot Spitzer) regarding the Unsolved Crimes committed in New York City on Sept 11th 2001 (including those committed by the EPA stating that the air was safe to breathe).

3)                              In May 2005, Jimmy Walter organised a number of public hearings in London and other European cities discussing the evidence raised above.

4)                              In December 2005, a new group formed (of which I am privileged to be a member)  called Scholars for 9-11 Truth.

There are a great many other issues and facts and questions which news researchers at the BBC ought to be seriously looking at, especially now. The BBC ought to be looking at our Website (www.st911.org). It ought to be reporting facts rather than fear-mongering rumour about “1 or 2 dead swans in Europe” etc

I suggest that whomever is reading this stop whatever they are doing and look at a selection of facts, data and video evidence presented on either the above site or www.st911.org,  www.reopen911.org.

I submitted the Press Releases (below) to many addresses at the BBC and have repeatedly advised them of significant stories which they have not researched and reported on. These stories involve former US Bush Administration people, for example. The only reason I can see that you are not researching and reporting these issues is that you are being prevented from doing so, or have an enormous fear of this.

I am now lodging a formal complaint about impartiality regarding the information presented above and below and expect a rapid response - due to the most serious nature of the facts outlined above.

 The BBC is now, it is proven, in breach of its charter and I am now going to begin the process of examining legal avenues for prosecution. The pattern of events that is now unfolding necessitates that action of this sort is taken as quickly as possible, even though I would not normally consider it necessary to resort to such extreme measures.  I hope to prove from a legal standpoint that you have something to a "Duty of Care" and I hope to show that you have failed in this duty and need to address this failure in a short time period - by prominently and repeatedly broadcasting the video evidence that is available, with a suitable analysis.

Once such broadcasts have taken place (and they will be taking place, of that I can assure you), perhaps you can then begin to discuss the lack of any real evidence to back up official stories of 9/11 and 7-7 and the lack of charges being brought or convictions being made for any of the crimes involved in these events. We can look at correcting the significantly erroneous reporting of these events – which is of grave cause for concern to me.

You must take this issue seriously, because you need to catch up with people who already know what is happening. Time is running short. You need to act quickly and appropriately - I am already doing what I can, having sent out approximately 500 DVD's (many free of charge) all over the country. I have been out on the streets (literally) giving this information to people – spending 100’s of pounds of my own money. If you are wondering what has been going on for the last 4 years, studying the above should put it all in context for you. Simply speaking, lack of a prompt response from yourselves will result in a prompt escalation of action by me against the Corporation.

Assuming you react positively to this information, and you do need to put together an initial 5 or 10 minute bulletin at 1,6 and 10pm for broadcast within 2 weeks or receipt of this letter. I am happy to give as much information as you require and act as an initial point of contact and liaison, or please contact Professor Jim Fetzer, Professor Morgan Reynolds or Professor Griffin through the website. If your response is any less than this, I will be taking legal advice and trying to work out the best way of getting you to present this evidence before the public in an appropriate manner. The cover up and marginalisation of this issue is going to be ended soon – bet on it.

It's hard enough getting through to politicians - I expected the BBC to be a bit more open-minded to verifiable evidence. Sadly, judging by recent experiences, it looks as though this isn't the case, and a legal case will need to be brought against the Corporation in order that it responds with appropriate coverage of the issues concerned. I would be pleased if you were able to prove me wrong on this one. (Please note that any mention of the words "Conspiracy Theory" in your response will cause me to assume you have disregarded verifiable scientific evidence and I will therefore feel compelled to take this matter further – and explore legal avenues with all due vigour and expediency.)

I expect a serious written response to this letter within 2 weeks of the date of receipt – and I am sending it by recorded delivery. Any kind of “brush-off” or glib response (such as the one given below the press releases - which was received by a fellow campaigner) will not be acceptable – and it will, essentially, be ignored. Your response must include reference to specific facts and points of evidence to which I have referred here - anything less will, essentially, be ignored and legal action will result.

Yours Sincerely,

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is impressive, hard-hitting stuff, Andrew. I feel these people are living in a fool's paradise, unaware that every day the neocons tighten their grip on the media and prepare to control even what we read here on the internet. It is almost a new Dark Ages that looms, if we do not act now.

I am also mightily impressed by your titanic 426-page battle with the closed minds of the US world of academic physics. Check it out everyone .
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fully agree with Andrew Watson's comment and congratulations to those kind souls making sterling efforts to get the BBC to address the 9/11 issue justly.

I personally think the way that things are panning out these days are both amazing and frightening. It is positively Orwellian.

It takes brave (and special) people to stand out in this age of propagated and engineered fear.

So I add want to add my heartfelt thanks to all of the 911 truth seekers, researchers and activists here in the UK and around the globe,

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My congratulations to Andrew J too. A show trial of the BBC should be just what we need to get the truth out to the public.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the moral support and kind comments guys - I appreciate it. This isn't the sort of thing I enjoy doing and I find it much harder to be this "firm"/assertive in person than I do in writing.

Letter was sent today - recorder deliv. I suppose there is always a worry that if you rattle the cage bars too much, you never now what animal will break out of the cage and chase you down the street....

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Andrew that letter you have sent to the BEEB, its awesome. Well done and thank you comrade your an inspiration and a shining light to the 911 truth campaign!

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a "Duty of Care"


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and I hope to show that you have failed in this duty and need to address this failure in a short time period


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Interestingly, I just received this response from Helen Boaden - she mentions the Simon Mayo programme, but this is not mentioned in the message I sent to her (below her response). My response to this is then at the bottom.


Dear Mr Johnson
Thank you for your recent email to me and also to the Simon Mayo programme on Radio 5 Live. The programme editor advises me that the Mayo programme has no plans at present to return to this subject. If and when we do, we will choose guests representing a variety of views, in line with BBC editorial guidelines.
 
Yours sincerely
Helen Boaden
Director, BBC News.


From: Andrew Johnson [mailto:ad.johnson@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 21 February 2006 14:18
To: zzHelen Boaden Complaints
Subject: Recent unanswered e-mail to BBC Complaints (Category - General BBC)

Dear Ms. Boaden,

 

I have a general complaint about the impartiality of the BBC on some extremely important issues.

 

Over nearly the last 18 months, it has come to my attention that there are grave and serious problems regarding the official story of the 9-11 attacks. Since I first became aware of these problems in approximately August 2004, a number of significant things have happened and these have not been covered by the BBC:

 

1)      In September 2004, an event, organised by Florida Millionaire Jimmy Walter called “Confronting the Evidence” was held in New York City where researchers presented to the public some of the facts which were not addressed by Kean Commission.

 

·        Facts such as the collapse times of the World Trade Centre Towers 1, 2 & 7 being close to those for “free-fall”.

·        Facts such as the collapse of WTC 7 happening at 5:30 in the evening when no plane had hit this building.

·        Facts such as the WTC Owner Larry Silverstein saying building 7 had been “pulled” by the FDNY, even though the FDNY do not “pull” buildings.

·        Facts such as the FEMA report about WTC 7 saying (essentially) the cause of the collapse was “unknown” (despite the *owner’s* comments above)

2)      In November 2004, a group of people presented a Citizen’s Complaint to the Attorney General of New York (Elliot Spitzer) regarding the Unsolved Crimes committed in New York City on Sept 11th 2001 (including those committed by the EPA stating that the air was safe to breathe).

3)      In May 2005, Jimmy Walter organised a number of public hearings in London and other European cities discussing the evidence raised above.

4)      A new group has formed (of which I am privileged to be a member)  called Scholars for 9-11 Truth.

 

There are a great many other issues  and facts and questions which news researchers at the BBC ought to be seriously looking at, especially now. The BBC ought to be looking at our Website (www.st911.org). It ought to be reporting facts rather than fear-mongering rumour about “1 or 2 dead swans in Europe” etc

 

Whoever is stopping this reporting, it seems, has a fair degree of control. I suggest that whomever is reading this stop whatever they are doing and look at a selection of facts, data and video evidence presented on either the above site or www.st911.org,  www.reopen911.org.

 

I submitted the Press Release below to many addresses at the BBC and have repeatedly advised them of significant stories which they have not researched and reported on. These stories involve former US Bush Administration people, for example. The only reason I can see that you are not researching and reporting these issues is that you are being prevented from doing so, or have an enormous fear of this.

 

I am now lodging a formal complaint about impartiality regarding the information presented above and below and expect a rapid response - due to the most serious nature of the facts outlined above.

 

The BBC is now, it is proven, in breach of its charter and I am now going to begin the process of examining legal avenues for prosecution. The pattern of events that is now unfolding necessitates that action of this sort is taken as quickly as possible. I hope to prove from a legal standpoint that you have something to a "Duty of Care" and I hope to show that you have failed in this duty and need to address this failure in a short time period - by broadcasting the video evidence that is available, with a suitable analysis.

 

Perhaps we can then begin to discuss the lack of any real evidence to back up official stories of 9/11 and 7-7 and the lack of charges being brought or convictions being made for any of them. We can look at correcting the significantly erroneous reporting of these events.

 

You must take this issue seriously, because you need to catch up with people who already know what is happening. Time is running short. Please act quickly and appropriately - I am already doing what I can, having sent out approximately 500 DVD's (many free of charge) all over the country. I have been out on the streets (literally) giving this information to people – spending 100’s of pounds of my own money. If you are wondering what has been going on for the last 4 years, studying the above should put it all in context for you.

 

It's hard enough getting through to politicians - I expected the BBC to be a bit more open minded to verifiable evidence. Sadly, judging by recent experiences, it looks as though this isn't the case, and a case will need to be brought against them. Please prove me wrong on this one.

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

Andrew Johnson

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Derbyshire

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P.S. Any mention of the words "Conspiracy Theory" in your response will automatically trigger a phone dialer to dial legal advice. i.e. more seriouly such a response will not be taken seriously. =====================


Dear Ms Boaden,
 
Thanks for taking the trouble to respond. You are correct in that I did send a message to Simon Mayo. The message you responded to was a general complaint, however. May I just remind you what it says in the BBC's charter:
 

The BBC Charter and Agreement (found at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/policies/charter/ ) states:

 

The BBC is constitutionally established by a Royal Charter. An accompanying Agreement recognises its editorial independence and sets out its public obligations in detail.

 

To quote from section 3 (Programme Content) of the Agreement:

 

3.2 The requirements referred to in subclause 3.1 are that the Home Services -

(c) contain comprehensive, authoritative and impartial coverage of news and current affairs in the United Kingdom and throughout the world to support fair and informed debate at local, regional and national levels

 
All of the news and information presented so far re the 9/11 disaster (essentially) supports the Official Government story. If you are to present a truly balanced and impartial coverage, you must give a platform to people who reject the government story and present scientifically verifiable and testable evidence in support of their position. You have not yet done this, so you are now in breach of your charter. Regardless of any Butler or Hutton judgements (which bear little or no relation to the facts and data I presented to you), you are in breach of your charter. Unless a reasoned and accurate response is received (which includes an agreement to broadcast an alternative analysis of the government's story), the BBC is going to be brought to account for its proven lack of impartiality on this issue. Those at the BBC must now decide whether to adhere to their charter, or be prosecuted for being in breach of it (which is the action I will be initiating in the absence of an appropriate response to this message and all similar ones that I have sent).
 
Thank you for reading this. I hope this makes the situation clear.
 
Yours Sincerely
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, why did she reply with that, I wonder? it's an attempt to fob you off and i think she's not taking your threat of legal action very seriously. though it does seem like the programme editor for the Mayo show has been talking to her about this...

by the way loving your work Andrew good buddy. Keep it up Very Happy

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