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Johnny Pixels
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject:

prole art threat wrote:

Thw wiring of money was proven. Read the Meacher article!

a) it's from the comment section, and is not news. b) It's written by Michael Meacher

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How can you say anything is 'unproven' when the official story of hijackers taking over planes and smashing three of them into US landmarks, which you hold so close to your bosom, is the most unproven event EVER. Double standards now, is it?

Which parts are unproven, and which parts of your conspiracy theory do you have proof for?

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Christ, you must get a right hard on ferociously scrubbing and whitewashing that Neocon doorstep.

Tell me what it's like? Go on, tell me what it's like being a Neocon's bitch?

Well done. You've really mastered the art of intelligent argument there.
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marky 54
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:15 am Post subject:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

prole art threat wrote:

Thw wiring of money was proven. Read the Meacher article!

a) it's from the comment section, and is not news. b) It's written by Michael Meacher

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Which parts are unproven, and which parts of your conspiracy theory do you have proof for?

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Christ, you must get a right hard on ferociously scrubbing and whitewashing that Neocon doorstep.

Tell me what it's like? Go on, tell me what it's like being a Neocon's bitch?

Well done. You've really mastered the art of intelligent argument there.

so if its not in the news its not true? even people who dont think 9/11 was an inside job or are not sure can see the properganda and unfair reporting on our networks ect. what makes you think they will put anyrthing in the news thats evidence 9/11 was an inside job? the media is there tool and keeps the masses dumb , your just one example.

telecasterisation
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:06 am Post subject:

marky wrote;

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This appears here time and time again - 'the media keeps the masses dumb'.

In another thread I asked how this works in practice, but nobody answered. By this I mean, the 'media' is essentially many thousands of ordinary everyday people, they have no corporate or hidden agenda, they are just people doing a job.

We are lead to believe that when things emerge that need to be 'covered up' or 'reworded to suit' - the copywriters/reporters are somewhere 'got' at by someone higher up the foodchain, or possibly there are magically indoctrinated to mask the truth without the need to be told exactly how to word it.

The bit I simply don't get and someone please explain it is this;

With the huge numbers of people working within the media, combined to the enormous number of stories and information that would need to be manipulated - why do we not hear from any disgruntled media employees who come forward to tell the 'real' stories?

In other words, as I have said, these people are 'ordinary', they have no hidden agenda - they uncover X and are told to write Y, or it is done for them and appears in print completely differently. If 9/11 info has in some way been tampered with and the media knew it to be another way - how is it possible that so many people like you and me can be silenced - why are they not shouting from website rooftops, why are they not here? I have not heard from any, this would be very very common given the numbers of people and squashed stories.

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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:05 am Post subject:

Tele wrote:

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With the huge numbers of people working within the media, combined to the enormous number of stories and information that would need to be manipulated - why do we not hear from any disgruntled media employees who come forward to tell the 'real' stories?

Anna Politkovskaya for starters you cant report anything when your dead. You look at Murdoch's empire he even rules over our politicians so what chance does a ordinary journalist have. the Islamophobia drivel we get in the papers i.e. the Forest Gate brothers the child porn, the pretending of shooting Buckingham Palace guards, the £30,000 that was supoosedly in the house on the day of the raid and the constant moaning of what the tax payers paid for there expenses whilst the house was renovated. It just goes to show what road they are trying to lead us all down.

Maybe most journalists are comfortable they get a good pay and do not want to rock the boat. Higher up the media food chain maybe there is something more sinister going on Jill Dando for one what did she really know and was she a warning to other journalists.

Thermate
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject:

telecasterisation wrote:

The bit I simply don't get and someone please explain it

They're called Editors, write what you want, the editor says no and it doesn't get published/broadcast. Also, here in the UK there is an established method for the government to order the "gagging" of particular stories.

Over the weekend I witnessed a case in point. Namely Dick Cheney's visit to Saudi Arabia. What visit to Saudi Arabia I hear you ask? Well according to the BBC and CNN websites there was no visit, only http://english.aljazeera.net/News (un)covered it...
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chipmunk stew
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject:

Thermate wrote:

telecasterisation wrote:

The bit I simply don't get and someone please explain it

That's funny, I distinctly remember hearing about it several times on NPR.

Nov-25-2006, Weekend Edition - Saturday:

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Syria has been drawn into this, just as the United States is trying to gain support and Vice President Cheney's on his way to have talks with Saudi Arabian King Abdullah.

Nov-25-2006, All Things Considered:

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Vice President Dick Cheney travels to Saudi Arabia to hold talks with King Abdullah about the deepening violence in Iraq.

Nov-27-2006, All Things Considered:

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Iraq was presumably high on the agenda when Vice President Cheney met with Saudi Arabian King Abdullah on Saturday.

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Hmmm... CNN must have gotten wind of your post and back-dated a story:
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/25/cheney.saudi/index.html

Gee whiz... I guess the BBC did, too:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6177948.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6188348.stm
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prole art threat
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

prole art threat wrote:

Thw wiring of money was proven. Read the Meacher article!

a) it's from the comment section, and is not news. b) It's written by Michael Meacher

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Which parts are unproven, and which parts of your conspiracy theory do you have proof for?

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Christ, you must get a right hard on ferociously scrubbing and whitewashing that Neocon doorstep.

Tell me what it's like? Go on, tell me what it's like being a Neocon's bitch?

Well done. You've really mastered the art of intelligent argument there.

Seriously though, I am intrigued. What does it feel like to be a Neocon's slut puppy?
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Thermate
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject:

chipmunk stew wrote:

Hmmm... CNN must have gotten wind of your post and back-dated a story:
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/25/cheney.saudi/index.html

Gee whiz... I guess the BBC did, too:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6177948.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6188348.stm

The BBC stories hardly qualify, vague references, not stories. Seems I do owe an apology to CNN though, however deeply buried it was.
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Johnny Pixels
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject:

Garcon Warrior wrote:

Tele wrote:

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So if Michael Meacher's piece is true, why is he not dead?
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Ignatz
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject:

Thermate wrote:

chipmunk stew wrote:

The BBC stories hardly qualify, vague references, not stories. Seems I do owe an apology to CNN though, however deeply buried it was.

You sound so like chek.

Are you related? Friends or colleagues?
Did the chek clan disband in order to post separately?
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Garcon Warrior
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:29 pm Post subject:

johnny Pixels wrote: [/quote]So if Michael Meacher's piece is true, why is he not dead? [quote] Well I would take a guess that if I went and asked 100 people on the street what Michael Meachers beliefs were on 9/11 nobody would know.

Johnny Pixels
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject:

Garcon Warrior wrote:

johnny Pixels wrote:

So if Michael Meacher's piece is true, why is he not dead?

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Well I would take a guess that if I went and asked 100 people on the street what Michael Meachers beliefs were on 9/11 nobody would know.

So only the cool kids get murdered eh? Yet he can reveal all these details in a newspaper and get away with it?
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Garcon Warrior
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject:

Is Michael Meacher a journalist or is he a member of parliment? Did I mention anything of people being knocked off over there beliefs on 9/11 I dont think I did. How many aritcles has he written in the media on his beliefs on 9/11? I have never seen any. He is a cool kid though I see with a pair of those new Heely's on he looked quite the man about town.

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