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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:33 pm    Post subject: i have a photo. Reply with quote

that I would like opinions on. it is an 18mb super hi res photo of 175 on approach to the south tower. i would like several people to look over it very carefully to see if there are any graphic trickery going on. I don't know who took it, (I will endeavour to find out). I downloaded it a couple of years ago, from a site, lost it in a hard drive crash. then couldn't find it anywhere (only a thumbnail) on the internet anywhere for a while.

then managed to get another copy on a CD, with a load of other stuff, from an American forum user

as it's 18mb, can't email it, or photobucket (2mb min Ally, unless you want to pay for gold membership for me Wink ), zipping doesn't help, and I don't currently have webspace.

I could probably mail a copy on CD if someone want to pm me an address. but would like to get it available quicker than that if possible. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what are the pixel dimensions and format?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham, I've been using Photoshop for nearly 20 years and I'm very keen to take a look at this photo. I sent you a PM to see if you could get it to me so that I could share it via BitTorrent - but I just remembered that you can send files via Skype. Do you use it? If so and you want to send the file to me, my Skype name is Flamesong - I can then make a .torrent and make it available to everybody else.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a few minutes on google....

http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/195154/Flight_175_Highres_letsroll_9 11_org

does that work?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flamesong wrote:
Graham, I've been using Photoshop for nearly 20 years and I'm very keen to take a look at this photo. I sent you a PM to see if you could get it to me so that I could share it via BitTorrent - but I just remembered that you can send files via Skype. Do you use it? If so and you want to send the file to me, my Skype name is Flamesong - I can then make a .torrent and make it available to everybody else.


jpg. 6457 x 4330

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're half way there!

You need to seed.

Have you got BitTorrent or another .torrent client/programme?

Open the .torrent you made with BitTorrent (or other) and it should see the original files and recognising that they are complete - it should start to seed automatically.

Incidentally, I see that there is already somebody else trying to download.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to grab this too, keep seeding folks! Alternatively how about ziping it and uploading to www.rapidshare.com ?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, nobody else has any of it yet - so we can't seed it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flamesong wrote:
We're half way there!

You need to seed.

Have you got BitTorrent or another .torrent client/programme?

Open the .torrent you made with BitTorrent (or other) and it should see the original files and recognising that they are complete - it should start to seed automatically.

Incidentally, I see that there is already somebody else trying to download.


That's possibly me - I'm showing 2 peers and no seeds and burger-all available so far...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I see two now - though I'm only connected to one and like you say, no data.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might be an appropriate moment to share this. One of the funniest things I've seen on the internet, and has an apt bit in it (and a doubley apt bit, as far as this thread has developed). If you have never seen this stuff before, it's called machinimation:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flamesong wrote:
This might be an appropriate moment to share this. One of the funniest things I've seen on the internet, and has an apt bit in it (and a doubley apt bit, as far as this thread has developed). If you have never seen this stuff before, it's called machinimation:


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Red versus Blue - great little series! (when I remember to catch up).
Same with the somewhat irregular Get Your War On cartoon
http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war59.html
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I was so looking forward to just posting it I forgot to say what it was...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, Graham, give it to me - FASTER!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yousendit.com

can't u use that to share the file?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tear it up. Very Happy

http://rapidshare.com/files/5369331/2328200101.jpg.html
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham wrote:
tear it up. Very Happy

http://rapidshare.com/files/5369331/2328200101.jpg.html


Thanks Graham - received ok here. Most realistic looking hologram I've ever seen Smile
However, for next time may I suggest you zip the file first, as otherwise in IE7 at least, it loads the picture in straight into yer browser Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The colouring is strange and is there a hint of windows?

There blue halo around the plane and lack of noise on the plane looks fishy.

It looks like a fake.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent cut & paste Graham, charging to down load it too, Jayhan & the pod industry will be well proud of you.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ally wrote:
excellent cut & paste Graham, charging to down load it too, Jayhan & the pod industry will be well proud of you.


wtf? is doesn't charge to download as far as I'm aware. Confused

or are you just being Ally as usual? Rolling Eyes So much hate. Rolling Eyes

When have I ever profited from 911? Huh? Come on big guy.

Leiff can you put up any screenshots from playing about with filters etc? Cheers.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to access the photo and it wanted dollars from me.

Reckon the aluminium plane would cut through this?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ally wrote:
I tried to access the photo and it wanted dollars from me.

Reckon the aluminium plane would cut through this?



Everyone else would have got a countdown of 40 seconds to a free download - OR the option to pay various amounts for Rapidshare's instant access premium service if you wanted to continue using it for other reasons.

And btw, steel and titanium reinforced aluminium plane would be more accurate, not that anyone's expecting your little logo to change any.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ally wrote:
I tried to access the photo and it wanted dollars from me.

Reckon the aluminium plane would cut through this?




If this picture is the WTC under construction - then the alleged planes would not be able to cut through such a structure like a knife through butter - anyone who continues to argue that they would is in denial.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote:

If this picture is the WTC under construction - then the alleged planes would not be able to cut through such a structure like a knife through butter - anyone who continues to argue that they would is in denial.


That is nothing but your assertion. If you want to prove your point, you have to do more than throw in a metaphor and say 'believe me'.

It didn't slice through it like a 'knife through butter' - that's only the impression given when seen over a distance at low resolution.
It slammed through it like a 100ton steel and titanium reinforced machine at 500mph.

Not that the foregoing will make any impression on you, you're too committed to your 'theory' to let go by now.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

titanium only accounts for 15-20 percent of a boeing, and I doubt all that was in the wings which cut through those steel girders apparently.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ally wrote:
I tried to access the photo and it wanted dollars from me.



please pay attention 007. Laughing

anyone had a good look at it yet with photoshop?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good, just doing an analysis now.. once my computer pulls its finger out.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chek wrote:
THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote:

If this picture is the WTC under construction - then the alleged planes would not be able to cut through such a structure like a knife through butter - anyone who continues to argue that they would is in denial.


That is nothing but your assertion. If you want to prove your point, you have to do more than throw in a metaphor and say 'believe me'.

It didn't slice through it like a 'knife through butter' - that's only the impression given when seen over a distance at low resolution.
It slammed through it like a 100ton steel and titanium reinforced machine at 500mph.

Not that the foregoing will make any impression on you, you're too committed to your 'theory' to let go by now.



SO YOU ADMIT IT - IT DOES APPEAR TO SLICE THROUGH LIKE A KNIFE THROUGH BUTTER

AND YOUR ONLY EXPLANATION IS DUE TO THE FILM QUALITY

HOW PATHETIC CAN YOU GET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ally wrote:
Did you read the email I sent Tony Gosling last week when he was trying to get TTWSU3 banned?
People only censor free speech they don't agree with.


I'd be interested to see the email & surrounding details.

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what is the power structure of this site?
who owns and runs it?
is it democratic?

i support people's right to say what they believe.

maybe we should all move to critics corner.
is there free speech there?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Graham, I am a proffesional retoucher, I can look it over for you if you like.
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