Police insignia discussion Thread

[John White]

Hello all. This thread is a rebuild of the earlier thread looking at the unusual Police insignia spotted at the anti-BNP rally in Blackpool. Becuase the issue of the insignia remains valid to explore further, there's a clear interest in resurrecting the thread. However, comments supporting the BNP's policies will be deleted, so please dont make them. Comments of that type on the original thread have not been included in this rebuild

[John White]

And this is some info passed to me that may be a possible explanation for the badge (though it doesnt address the effect on the psyche of the symbolism of course)

[Patrick Brown]

The question of whether it's just a symbol or whether it has a deeper meaning is more Masonic noise. I recently started a thread about the Masons here: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=5670

All I can say at the point in the discussion is the the checked band around the hat of the British police does bare a striking resemblance to the image of the checked floors of Masonic lodges. There are other Masonic motifs/symbols that appear within the British police but I would need to go digging for images.

All this symbolism stuff reminds me of the thread were “Chipmunk stew” said the British flag was “esoteric, occult symbol, representing pain, suffering, torture, and death”. As he wouldn't explain what he meant I had no choice but to come up with my own interpretation which you can judge for yourself: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=38630#38630

You see the problem with symbolism, as with anything vaguely Masonic or Occult, is was the symbolic form created with a meaning in mind or is the meaning there as an archetype from the collective unconscious (one of Carl Yung's theories of the mind)?

Now heres the really intriguing bit: We see throughout nature geometric forms in flowers, sea shells, pine cones, minerals etc. Now these patterns of the outer maze are said to derive from the interaction of two, two dimensional, geometric forms which intern manifest in three dimensional time space.


These two triangles are sometimes called Castor and Pollux, Castor the tall one and Pollux the wide short one.

Now the inner maze which refers to our minds may share a similar process meaning that the archetypes of the physical world already have a predefined meaning which all humans derive from the collective unconscious. You can then go further and suggest that people who have understood this may be tempted to use symbols as a control mechanism!

[flamesong]

I think it is interesting that Anon has attemted to put our minds at rest by providing evidence of the insignia's functionality. It's functionality is not in question - its appearance is.

We could perform the same trick on any symbol - the swastika for example. It is not that the 'flash' allows the officers to identify each other by group, it is that they have embodied this functionality in such a style. If they really wanted to provide this functionality in the most practical way, this style is not it. Even servicemen on military excercise wearing camouflage have more visible 'team' ID than this.

[uselesseater]

The compendium encycopedia of symbols says '..a symbol or expression of divine power that manifests itself as terrible or creative.' 'Lightning and thunder are origionaly traced back to the highest god (e.g. Jupiter / Zeus or Indra). In the Bible it symbolises judgement and in the orient it is a associated with thunderstorms, rain and thus fertility.

[Thermate]

Pretty much anyone of any importance in the British police is a mason no? If this insignia was purely for ID purposes surely a bold triangle or other basic shapes would server better? Not sure I go along with the explanation offered.

[hampton]

I've heard there's a masonic lodge in scotland yard & parliament.

can anyone confirm this?

[Hazzard]

Hampton there are Lodges in every council building or near every council building throughout the UK.

Why do you think council tax is so high?

[uselesseater]

I'm sure i found a website showing hundereds of lodges all over the country. Can't remember the url though.

[hampton]

there are certainly hundreds in the uk & thousands round the globe.
some aren't difficult to find.

it would be good to get some evidence of locations in public buildings.