Pentagon Attack Analysis ( 757 did hit the pentagon )

[TRUTH]

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Very interesting.

[Hazzard]

Ive seen another one of an engineer saying that WTC 7 is without a doubt controlled demolition.

Then when the guy tells him it was WTC 7 on Sept 11th his jaw dropped. He said it would have taken weeks to prepare, it was golden. If anyone can post that would be cool!

Nice find!

[Snowygrouch]

Who made this???

I need to know, I have the complete raw data download from Flight 77s black box so I think these people/program makers could get it analysed (something no UK or US company has agreed to do).

Cheerio

C.

[Serge]

There are major flaws in what they are saying. Firstly the wheel. The wheel being shown, is certainly not that off a 757. A 757's hub is different to the wheel shown.

Also, if they bothered to look at the actual FDR, they would also know that the light poles were never hit by any 757, as the FDR placed the 757 some 400 foot above the poles. Also the FDR last seconds was a vertical climb placing it above the pentagon. No 757 hit the pentagon. That theory has been debunked some time ago now.

[Reflecter]

This is part of the zembla documentary debunking Loose Change. In which a CD expert agrees wtc 7 is cd much to their suprise.

Google version:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-129851858930592160&q=zembla

Short but Dutch section on wtc 7:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8443392152386421421&q=zembl a

Full Torrent version with UK subs:
http://chomskytorrents.org/?Action=ChangePage&Page=5
35th link from bottom (no idea if its still active but i'll re-seed my copy if wanted)

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Broadcast by Dutch TV channel VARA on September 11th, 2006, this program has Nederlands audio with hard-coded English subtitles. From Zembla's website:

[Thermate]

The car park film doesn't show flight77. We can't be sure what it does show, but we can be sure it doesn't show a 757.

[adam1]

Hey Reflector, did you know that the youtube link you posted is no longer available?

[Reflecter]

Sorry Adam1,

I hadnt checked that link. It was among what Polarbear from Chomskytorrents had put up about the torrent release. My bad.

[Stefan]

Snowygrouch-

I found the website of VARA- the TV station which makes ZEMBLA. Heres the link to their page on ZEMBLA, I don't read dutch but I think that's the contact section below. Pretty much everyone in the Netherland's speaks English so if you gave them a call or email they'd understand you.

http://omroep.vara.nl/tvradiointernet_detail.jsp?maintopic=424&subtopi c=4177

Klantenservice (vragen over abonnementen en lidmaatschap)
Voor alle vragen over abonnementen en lidmaatschap, ledenactiviteiten, ledenaanbiedingen en het bijwonen van programma's kunt u contact opnemen met VARA Klantenservice 0900-0123 (010 cent per minuut). Mail met klantenservice@vara.nl.

EDIT- Actually I think this might be the contact details (sorry to be confusing!):

Postadres:
Postbus 175
1200 AD Hilversum

Bezoekadres:
mediapark sumatralaan 49
1217 GP Hilversum

telefoon: 035 671 19 11

[insidejob]

This Dutch programme is a bit of a con. It’s aim is to have a set of experts state don’t trust what Loose Change say. But compare the level of analysis of Loose Change with the Dutch experts and they simply do not compare. There is far more analysis on Loose Change than on this Dutch programme.

The analysis of engine parts establish this. Loose Change compares parts of the engine, the O-Ring, with what is found at the Pentagon sites. After showing you diagrams, they say there is not a fit between the parts found at the site and the diagrams. What happens in the Dutch programme. There is a cursory shot of the diagrams that is insufficient for a viewer to compare it with the photos of the engine parts on the site. Then the experts say, there is no justification of Loose Change’s confidence. Where’s the analysis? They simply don’t bother.

There is the issue of the 757’s flight path. There are pilots who say that the 757’s manoeuvre was impossible. We are shown an untrained pilot with a flight simulator complete the manoeuvre. So, are we supposed to accept the advice of an untrained pilot against trained and experienced pilots? How do we know whether the manoeuvre was the same?

As Nila Sagadevan in The Impossibility Of Flying Heavy Aircraft Without Training, http://www.physics911.net/sagadevan.htm, states:

“I shan't get into the aerodynamic impossibility of flying a large commercial jetliner 20 feet above the ground at over 400 MPH. A discussion on ground effect energy, vortex compression, downwash reaction, wake turbulence, and jetblast effects are beyond the scope of this article (the 100,000-lb jetblast alone would have blown whole semi-trucks off the roads. The DVD, "Loose Change - 1st Edition" contains an excellent clip of trucks being blown off the end of a runway when a jetliner powers up for take-off.)

“Let it suffice to say that it is physically impossible to fly a 200,000-lb airliner 20 feet above the ground at 400 MPH.”

The Dutch programme simply does not deal with these issues at all. If I’m going to trust one documentary over another, it is going to be Loose Change

[Busker]

[Woodee]

[outsider]

Of course a 757 hit the Pentagon! That's why Bushco showed all the CCTV footage, and why they put the gas station video on TV, and then returned the original; and why they did dito to the hotel footage, and why they didn't threaten the hotel employees to stay silent about what they had seen on the footage. And in case anyone is unaware, at least one 757 (probably the one that 'hit' the Pentagon) was fitted with depleted uranium nosecone (all the better to blast through 9 feet of steel reinforced concrete).

[THETRUTHWILLSETU3]

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