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Eyewitnesses report hearing what sounded like a jet engine, and a bomb going off. The side of a house was ripped off.
So what do we make of that? Do we go with the official story, or do we place any stock in these reports of bombs going off and jet engines?
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: Tornado! |
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| Johnny Pixels wrote: | Eyewitnesses report hearing what sounded like a jet engine, and a bomb going off. The side of a house was ripped off.
So what do we make of that? Do we go with the official story, or do we place any stock in these reports of bombs going off and jet engines? |
there is no reason to doubt this story, everthing reported fits the incident and the damage is also what you'd expect. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:11 am Post subject: Re: Tornado! |
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| marky 54 wrote: | | Johnny Pixels wrote: | Eyewitnesses report hearing what sounded like a jet engine, and a bomb going off. The side of a house was ripped off.
So what do we make of that? Do we go with the official story, or do we place any stock in these reports of bombs going off and jet engines? |
there is no reason to doubt this story, everthing reported fits the incident and the damage is also what you'd expect. |
But as far as conspiracists go, every witness on 9/11 who said "It sounded like a bomb going off" is reported as confirming that bombs went off.
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| your comparing 1 person saying it sounded like a bomb to numerous people saying it. and a tornado and a weak building to a plane and a massive building alot stronger than a house. this cannot be compared to 9/11 in anyway. im sure there will be real ct'ers who do try to make something of it. however where everone is confused is that a person question the events of what led and will lead to numerous wars because of LOTS of inconsistancies is infact not a ct'er. a ct'er will question anything even with 100% proof. i think you'll find that the reason most people are here is because we are yet to see that 100% proof on certain issues. |
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| I'm still waiting to see 10% proof of OBLT. |
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| Quote: | | But as far as conspiracists go, every witness on 9/11 who said "It sounded like a bomb going off" is reported as confirming that bombs went off. |
The massive damage that a tornado causes probably sounds like a bomb going off. Is the latest official fairy tale that a tornado just happened to pass the twin towers after the planes hit? HEY !!!! It would explain building 7!!! You might be on to something here. Go for it!! It is as good as anything else the ptb have come up with and what the hell does it matter if they change their story AGAIN!!
"Following recent tornado damage in London the mystery of why three skyscrapers fell in New York on 11/9/2001 has finally been cleared up. Scientists now realize that the weakened buildings stood no chance against the invisible tornado which swept over NYC at an altitude which affected only the tallest buildings in its erratic path, before re-emerging over an hour later at the Pentagon, and sucking a 757 into a most unlikely manoeuvre before finally dragging it into the ground floor. As the landing gear exited on the far side, the same unique wind phenomenon sucked the landing gear back inside the building while simultaneously creating a distinct rounded hole."
There you have it - all mysteries solved. And the most plausible one yet by a mile. |
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About as plausible as the no-planes theory.
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| Quote: | | About as plausible as the no-planes theory. |
We agree on something! |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: But there is a theory... |
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which originates from a site weather wars that when there is a rough patch of bad weather, by firing tons of electricity into the clouds one can provoke this type of turbulence.
There used to be people who didn't believe the Soviets cleared the skies for their May Day Parades until it surfaced as a news story a few years back.
Who knows what weapons these crooks might be testing, for what purpose and to what end.
Although this type of thing has happened before in the area involved in the 1950's... |
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| blackcat wrote: |
The massive damage that a tornado causes probably sounds like a bomb going off. |
The sound of concrete and steel being torn apart probably sounds like a bomb going off. Hence the reports of explosions on 9/11...
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| Johnny Pixels wrote: | | blackcat wrote: |
The massive damage that a tornado causes probably sounds like a bomb going off. |
The sound of concrete and steel being torn apart probably sounds like a bomb going off. Hence the reports of explosions on 9/11... |
Why would concrete and steel be torn apart before any planes hit the towers? |
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| Quote: | | Why would concrete and steel be torn apart before any planes hit the towers? |
Or even after? And why does so much of it turn to dust? And what ejects huge steel beams 600 feet away? And what keeps the temperature in the rubble over a thousand degrees for weeks? None of these things happen when a tornado strikes. |
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| Fallious wrote: | | Johnny Pixels wrote: | | blackcat wrote: |
The massive damage that a tornado causes probably sounds like a bomb going off. |
The sound of concrete and steel being torn apart probably sounds like a bomb going off. Hence the reports of explosions on 9/11... |
Why would concrete and steel be torn apart before any planes hit the towers? |
Only one man said they were, and he did not say it at the time. See the thread about it.
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| Bushwacker wrote: | | Fallious wrote: | | Johnny Pixels wrote: | | blackcat wrote: |
The massive damage that a tornado causes probably sounds like a bomb going off. |
The sound of concrete and steel being torn apart probably sounds like a bomb going off. Hence the reports of explosions on 9/11... |
Why would concrete and steel be torn apart before any planes hit the towers? |
Only one man said they were, and he did not say it at the time. See the thread about it. |
Thanks, I've seen the thread and it doesn't change his account of explosions before the plane. (That is unless he was taking part in the thread himself and changed his mind?  )
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| blackcat wrote: | | Quote: | | Why would concrete and steel be torn apart before any planes hit the towers? |
Or even after? And why does so much of it turn to dust? And what ejects huge steel beams 600 feet away? And what keeps the temperature in the rubble over a thousand degrees for weeks? None of these things happen when a tornado strikes. |
Steel and concrete were torn apart because the towers fell down. How much do you think turned to dust compared to how much should turn to dust? Have you considered that most of the dust is probably gypsum from interior finishes, not concrete? Why should controlled demolition keep the rubble pile hot?
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| blackcat wrote: | | Quote: | | Why would concrete and steel be torn apart before any planes hit the towers? |
Or even after? And why does so much of it turn to dust? And what ejects huge steel beams 600 feet away? And what keeps the temperature in the rubble over a thousand degrees for weeks? None of these things happen when a tornado strikes. |
I'm not actually saying a tornado did it. I'm saying that people use descriptions for things that don't describe what they actually heard, only what they think what they heard sounded like. Hence One man says the tornado sounded like a bomb going off. It doesn't mean there was a bomb. LAst week when the fireworks factory caught fire, several people compared the smoke cloud to a nuclear mushroom cloud. There was no nuclear bomb there. They have no other way of describing what they heard or saw.
I mean, who is going to say "It sounded like a steel framed building collapsing"? People have never heard that before, they don't know what it sounds like, so how do they describe it? In terms of what they have heard before.
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| Johnny Pixels wrote: | | blackcat wrote: | | Quote: | | Why would concrete and steel be torn apart before any planes hit the towers? |
Or even after? And why does so much of it turn to dust? And what ejects huge steel beams 600 feet away? And what keeps the temperature in the rubble over a thousand degrees for weeks? None of these things happen when a tornado strikes. |
I'm not actually saying a tornado did it. I'm saying that people use descriptions for things that don't describe what they actually heard, only what they think what they heard sounded like. Hence One man says the tornado sounded like a bomb going off. It doesn't mean there was a bomb. LAst week when the fireworks factory caught fire, several people compared the smoke cloud to a nuclear mushroom cloud. There was no nuclear bomb there. They have no other way of describing what they heard or saw.
I mean, who is going to say "It sounded like a steel framed building collapsing"? People have never heard that before, they don't know what it sounds like, so how do they describe it? In terms of what they have heard before. |
yes people say a lot of things, however if they say theres a bomb and so do numerous people, then 2 steel structures crumle(first two ever) to dust and debris get ejected up and out, then you see examples on footage of blast points below and way below the demolition wave, and a few videos that you can hear explosions in, and molten metal in the basements and no tornado any where near the scene, it can hardly be compared to someone saying it sounded like a bomb went of when a tornado had just gone over his little house. |
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| Fallious wrote: | | Why would concrete and steel be torn apart before any planes hit the towers? |
To get at the basement bullion maybe?
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| marky 54 wrote: | | yes people say a lot of things, however if they say theres a bomb and so do numerous people, then 2 steel structures crumle(first two ever) to dust and debris get ejected up and out, then you see examples on footage of blast points below and way below the demolition wave, and a few videos that you can hear explosions in, and molten metal in the basements and no tornado any where near the scene, it can hardly be compared to someone saying it sounded like a bomb went of when a tornado had just gone over his little house. |
We don't see blast points, or hear explosions. We see what you interpret to be blast points and explosions. There is a difference. It is exactly the same thing as someone thinking a tornado sounds like a bomb going off.
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Always interesting the way the 'critics' like to harp on about the sound of explosions not necessarily being explosives, but steer clear of mentioning the testimonies where explosions were heard and flashes seen, or people are physically thrown to the ground by the shockwave.
They just don't give up. Ever. |
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| chek wrote: | Always interesting the way the 'critics' like to harp on about the sound of explosions not necessarily being explosives, but steer clear of mentioning the testimonies where explosions were heard and flashes seen, or people are physically thrown to the ground by the shockwave.
They just don't give up. Ever. |
Testimonies eh? Eyewitness evidence being the most reliable of all types of evidence of course...
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| Johnny Pixels wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | | yes people say a lot of things, however if they say theres a bomb and so do numerous people, then 2 steel structures crumle(first two ever) to dust and debris get ejected up and out, then you see examples on footage of blast points below and way below the demolition wave, and a few videos that you can hear explosions in, and molten metal in the basements and no tornado any where near the scene, it can hardly be compared to someone saying it sounded like a bomb went of when a tornado had just gone over his little house. |
We don't see blast points, or hear explosions. We see what you interpret to be blast points and explosions. There is a difference. It is exactly the same thing as someone thinking a tornado sounds like a bomb going off. |
yes we do hear explosions and see blast points, your the one in denial , not i. anyone with eyes can see them. no wait im wrong i did'nt hear them or see them they was'nt there, there is NO evidence to support and who can trust eyewitnesses who saw and heard everything? is this what im suppose to think? better for you? dose it comfort you? the only people who believe the offical storey are those who still think only 2 buildings came down that day, or have a lot to lose and are trying to keep it squashed. also your avoidance of other points i make on other threads dont help your cause to sway me. |
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| marky 54 wrote: | | Johnny Pixels wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | | yes people say a lot of things, however if they say theres a bomb and so do numerous people, then 2 steel structures crumle(first two ever) to dust and debris get ejected up and out, then you see examples on footage of blast points below and way below the demolition wave, and a few videos that you can hear explosions in, and molten metal in the basements and no tornado any where near the scene, it can hardly be compared to someone saying it sounded like a bomb went of when a tornado had just gone over his little house. |
We don't see blast points, or hear explosions. We see what you interpret to be blast points and explosions. There is a difference. It is exactly the same thing as someone thinking a tornado sounds like a bomb going off. |
yes we do hear explosions and see blast points, your the one in denial , not i. anyone with eyes can see them. no wait im wrong i did'nt hear them or see them they was'nt there, there is NO evidence to support and who can trust eyewitnesses who saw and heard everything? is this what im suppose to think? better for you? dose it comfort you? the only people who believe the offical storey are those who still think only 2 buildings came down that day, or have a lot to lose and are trying to keep it squashed. also your avoidance of other points i make on other threads dont help your cause to sway me. |
Do you actually read what I write? I said you see and hear what you interpret to blast points and explosions. I'm not saying those images and sounds aren't there. I'm saying there not what you think they are.
What exactly do I have to lose? If I come around to thinking that 9/11 was an inside job, please describe what changes will happen in my life?
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| Johnny Pixels wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | | Johnny Pixels wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | | yes people say a lot of things, however if they say theres a bomb and so do numerous people, then 2 steel structures crumle(first two ever) to dust and debris get ejected up and out, then you see examples on footage of blast points below and way below the demolition wave, and a few videos that you can hear explosions in, and molten metal in the basements and no tornado any where near the scene, it can hardly be compared to someone saying it sounded like a bomb went of when a tornado had just gone over his little house. |
We don't see blast points, or hear explosions. We see what you interpret to be blast points and explosions. There is a difference. It is exactly the same thing as someone thinking a tornado sounds like a bomb going off. |
yes we do hear explosions and see blast points, your the one in denial , not i. anyone with eyes can see them. no wait im wrong i did'nt hear them or see them they was'nt there, there is NO evidence to support and who can trust eyewitnesses who saw and heard everything? is this what im suppose to think? better for you? dose it comfort you? the only people who believe the offical storey are those who still think only 2 buildings came down that day, or have a lot to lose and are trying to keep it squashed. also your avoidance of other points i make on other threads dont help your cause to sway me. |
Do you actually read what I write? I said you see and hear what you interpret to blast points and explosions. I'm not saying those images and sounds aren't there. I'm saying there not what you think they are.
What exactly do I have to lose? If I come around to thinking that 9/11 was an inside job, please describe what changes will happen in my life? |
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your job? |
I work for a consultant engineering firm. Why would they fire me if I was a bit crazy?
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| if its crazy answer my posts in the flight 93 thread im sure you'll have all the answers, or maybe you'll continue to avoid it. |
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I wonder about this "Tornado". several days later, police were still there manning the streets. The damage seemed quite spread out, roofs and sides of houses taken off, a couple of car windows smashed.
We know over half the time the weather we have is artificial, so why not this? I was shocked to hear about this, and found it odd occuring in the middle of the main rd among buses and terraced houses.
Where does the force of a tornado come from anyway? |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Tornado in london town |
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| Sophocles wrote: | I wonder about this "Tornado". several days later, police were still there manning the streets. The damage seemed quite spread out, roofs and sides of houses taken off, a couple of car windows smashed.
We know over half the time the weather we have is artificial, so why not this? I was shocked to hear about this, and found it odd occuring in the middle of the main rd among buses and terraced houses.
Where does the force of a tornado come from anyway? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado
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| Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:33 am Post subject: Re: Tornado in london town |
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Eh? What on earth does this mean?
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