Hilarious disinfo - must see

[commanderson]

check out this moon hoax, hoax vid, its great, and a good example of how disinfo can work http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3288261061829859642&q=dark+s ide+of+the+moon

[Andrew Johnson]

Yes its a good example of how ridicule and sniggering can be used to cover something up.

Boy, those documentary makers sure got some unprecedented access to some key figures, ay?

Oddly, this video still resides on Google Video, but Bart Sibrell's videos "A Funny thing happened on the way to the moon" and "Astronauts Gone Wild" have been deleted.

David Percy's 4 hour videos "What Happened on the Moon" have also been taken off Google video.

And then, there are Neil Armstrong's strange words in 1994.

These remarks were made by NEIL ARMSTRONG  at the White House on WEDNESDAY, JULY 20, 1994 during a ceremony commemorating the Apollo 11 mission. (Click for video clip and watch the accompanying body language).

"Today we have with us a group of students, among America's best. To you we say we have only completed a beginning. We leave you much that is undone. There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of the truth's protective layers. There are places to go beyond belief..."

Original Story:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?r103:E20JY4-119:

Well, at least I have been able to post on here what Duncan Gardham omitted to include in his Daily Telegraph article which mentioned some campaigners by name (including me).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/15/nterro r315.xml

It wouldn't be that ridicule/pernicious debunking tactic in use again would it? Of course not!

There is no link WHATSOEVER between 9/11 and Apollo Hoaxes - because Apollo clearly wasn't a Hoax - there's too much media evidence to say men landed on the moon. Ha! Whatever was I thinking of! Tsk! Commanderson! You've damaged the movement by starting this thread!!!

[commanderson]

really!
you think there's no evidence for a moon hoax?

I'm sorry you feel this way about my post, but I seriously found this flick amazingly funny, as a fully disclosed mockumentary, very well made- and I do not belive they had access to these people, just cut the footage from available stuff, with all the disinfo hitting about, thought it was an amusing aside to show folk how this stuff can be made to look semi-real.

The clever thing with this one is the acceleration of ridiculesness, that shows up its humour, while you might have been sucked in by the initial, section, as it goes on its more obvious theyre taking the piss, i think its really a good exercise in awareness

[Andrew Johnson]

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[commanderson]

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[commanderson]

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[commanderson]

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I find it very odd that you have only just signed up on here to start taking swipes at David Shayler. I would have thought a Truth dynamo like yourself would have made your presence felt here or on other likeminded '911 Truth' forums long before now.

So, where have you been all this time? We needed you to fight the disinformation wars but you were not anywhere to be seen. We needed your guidance and vision to keep us from straying off onto the wrong road into the treacherous arms of the shadowy shills.

But you were never there.

[commanderson]

well I'm here now so never fear

I actually took this up at my girlfriends insistance, to vent my rants that I subjected her and other friends to, trying to get some grassroots action together, met with general disinterest but I tried for years, so I started on Concen and found myself here.
nighty night

[Bowery Boy]

APOLLO : one giant hoax

At the present time, nowhere on Earth does there exist, nor is there any prospect in the foreseeable future of there being, the technology to put men on the moon and bring them back safely.
When NASA realised that President Kennedy’s 1961 call, for a man on the moon and back alive before the end of the decade, was totally impossible, they decided, rather than lose face, to hoax the whole thing. With $40 billion – at 1961 rates – available, the scope for deception was endless.
The major problem was the impossibility of overcoming the cosmic radiation threat within and beyond the Earth’s Van Allen Belts and on the moon’s surface. At least 5 feet of lead would be needed in all directions to protect the voyagers : for one man, in a telephone kiosk, this would involve a thousand tons of lead. 35-plus years later, the unprotected Apollo travellers, all of whom would have been fried, have shown no signs of radiation sickness.
Another problem was the inability of NASA to produce a stable craft which was intended to be the lunar landing module. “Lunar astronaut”, Neil Amstrong, almost lost his life when one of the prototype flying-bedstead LMs crashed and disintegrated. The problems were never even close to being solved.
The highly secret Area 51, in the Nevada Desert, is believed to be the location for the film studios – still visible from satellite photographs – which produced the television programmes – “live from the Moon”, whilst the astronauts merely sat out their time 200 miles above the Earth’s surface.
The official NASA record of the six Apollo excursions is so full of basic mistakes that various observers believe that some NASA personnel, very unhappy at being forced to be part of the hoax, deliberately left what would become obvious flaws in the record. The American flag flapping in the atmosphere-free, windless conditions ; the school-boy-level fake “moon photographs” and their difference from the live (film studio) transmissions ; the miracle of the standard Kodak film which withstood the X-rays and the extremes of heat and cold - 250 to minus-250 degrees ; the chest-mounted cameras which, without a viewfinder, produced hundreds of clear, well-framed photographs ; the multiple light sources ; the clear, uninterrupted voices of the astronauts as they sat above 10,000 lb-thrust, 140-decibel rockets ; the lack of any crater beneath the LMs; the lack of any exhaust smoke from the LM rockets (as it was pulled upwards, Thunderbird-style, by puppet strings in the studio) ; the lack of any stars in the lunar sky ; … and so on.
The impression that the men and vehicles were moving in a less dense gravity was created by simply slowing down the film to half-speed.
One of the “whistle-blowers”, Bill Kaysing, former analyst and engineer with Rocketdyne, the Apollo rocket designers estimated that “.. there were 85 completely separate manoeuvres involved in a lunar landing. Statisticians have calculated that the chances of completing this set of manoeuvres six times, without a single failure, were totally beyond the realms of possibility”.
Kaysing also reckoned that the chances of a successful, manned return trip to the moon were .0017%.
Other informants have not been so lucky. The outstanding critic of America’s chances of lunar success, Gus Grissom was one of ten astronauts who had “freak fatal accidents” between 1964 & 67. Apollo 1 safety inspector, Thomas Baron, produced a 500-page report. He stated that “The Apollo 1 programme was in such disarray that America would never make it to the moon.” One week later Baron and his family were killed in a road crash : the report disappeared.

Although the Americans recruited over 120 Nazi space scientists for their use, the Apollo scam is well beyond anything in the Joseph Goebbels Manual of Public Relations. Channels 4 and 5 TV have broadcast programmes exposing the fraud, but the Establishment media, led by -who else?- the BBC, have taken every opportunity to reinforce the hoax, with very good reason.
If it were generally accepted that The Scientists have told us a pack of lies on “Man’s Greatest Achievement” - and they have - even the most trusting of punter is likely to ask on what else would they deceive us : answer - everything.

[blackcat]

But but ... but ... but - it is impossible!! There would be too many people involved. Someone would speak out - then we would all hear and believe him. Automatically.

[THETRUTHWILLSETU3]

If you did a survey on this site about the moon landings you would get a majority voting that they were faked. The moon landings were nearly 40 years ago.

I find it extraordinary that you can believe this but cannot believe a couple of plane collisions were faked.

Most of you are in denial - but you will see the light in time

[blackcat]

I don't believe the planes were made from anti-gravity chocolate either. It requires evidence and reason to believe something and a motive helps too.

[Snowygrouch]

Anyone got a small lunar observatory in their garden??

Pretty easy to sort this one out, just point yer oversized monocle at the sea of tranqulity and find the module base (if its there).

If not.......THEN the s**T really hits the fan. Actually it ought to be quite easy with a medium sized observatory to find the remnants. It would all be perfectly preserved if its there.

Incidentally my uni mechanics lecturer and I had a converstaion about 9/11 two months ago. He said:

"I know the Yanks are crazy but no way did they blow up their own WTC, but I DO know they definetly didnt bloody land on the moon!"

Interesting, I`m reserving judgement.

C.

[Andrew Johnson]

[kc]

http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEhelp/ApolloLaser.html
http://www.space.com./news/a11_science.html
http://www.aulis.com/jerry-wiant.htm
http://library.thinkquest.org/J0112188/neil_armstrong.htm
etc. etc.

BTW, I honestly used to believe it was faked until I had a beer with an old TRW employee who'd worked on some of the Apollo contracts

[blackcat]

[mobypaterson]

[Light Infantree]

Everything out side the van allen belt gets fried. Human beings do not survive in microwave ovans.

It may be possible to travel to the moon through some kind of stargate but not in a baked bean tin.

Source - 'Pyramids of Montauk' Preston Nichols & Peter Moon.

We may have been there but not on any Apollo mission.

This has made me think of something imortant to raise here:

..like the towers and the no plane business, i do not really care how they did it, i have reserched enough to understand that the moon missions were fake and that we have been lied to about 911 and thats all I really need to grasp. To try and 'convince' people about all the details is a waste of energy they are going to do a la la la i'm not listening everytime.

911 being a lie is hard enough for most people to take on board - baffel them with no planes and they are going walkies.

[blackcat]

[Snowygrouch]

DAMN STRAIGHT

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