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This cropped up in a debate elsewhere.
Doesn't "prove" anything, but it's worth a read
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200510/24/eng20051024_216283.html
From a BBC report of the crash :
"... He says it is believed that many passengers are buried underground in the plane's wreckage, while the plane's wings felled trees around the site.
"It is not possible to get a complete body of any victim. The bodies were scattered all over the place. Some human parts were hanging on trees," said Nigerian Red Cross official Bayo Fasoranti. "
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| it does tie in with 9/11 a little, it says they excavated the fuselage intact but compacted, just wondering why we see no photo's of them excavating flight 93's almost intact compacted part of the plane, you know the bit that buried itself. it carnt bury itself and explode at the same time with out leaving a much bigger hole so im sure there was large sections of the plane in the ground, however we never see them in photographic evidence apart from one small piece being dug up. wheres the rest of the plane that buried itself? i assume they didnt just leave it underground. and when dealing with a crime everything is recorded and photographed as evidence, so im sure the photo of them pulling out the huge compacted fuselage exsists? that is of course assuming the plane did indeed bury itself. |
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| There was also a mention of the wings being broken off. So they were very large pieces lying nearby then? Unlike at Shanksville where the wings also disappeared. |
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| blackcat wrote: | | There was also a mention of the wings being broken off. So they were very large pieces lying nearby then? Unlike at Shanksville where the wings also disappeared. |
Absolutely. But the general comparison seems worthwhile. No telling the state of the ground either, as far as I can see.
It also created a bigger hole than Lockerbie - very roughly 2000 m³ vs 560 m³ . The Shanksville crater appears to be of a similar size to the Nigerian one, if not bigger.
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| Ignatz wrote: | | blackcat wrote: | | There was also a mention of the wings being broken off. So they were very large pieces lying nearby then? Unlike at Shanksville where the wings also disappeared. |
Absolutely. But the general comparison seems worthwhile. No telling the state of the ground either, as far as I can see.
It also created a bigger hole than Lockerbie - very roughly 2000 m³ vs 560 m³ . The Shanksville crater appears to be of a similar size to the Nigerian one, if not bigger. |
'The plane crashed not long after, leaving a smoking 70-foot crater in the marshy earth, uprooted trees and blew the roofs off nearby houses.
A wig, clothes, foam seats, and a hand were visible wedged in the sodden earth.'
http://www.boston.com/news/world/africa/articles/2005/10/24/wreckage_o f_nigerian_plane_found_all_117_on_board_dead/
There are lots of sources for this, video and stills.
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Thanks.
Perhaps at least Marky will now stop fretting about how a red bandana could survive at Shanksville.
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| Ignatz wrote: | | telecasterisation wrote: | 'The plane crashed not long after, leaving a smoking 70-foot crater in the marshy earth, uprooted trees and blew the roofs off nearby houses.
A wig, clothes, foam seats, and a hand were visible wedged in the sodden earth.'
There are lots of sources for this, video and stills. |
Thanks.
Perhaps at least Marky will now stop fretting about how a red bandana could survive at Shanksville. |
I couldn't possibly comment on marky's internal state, however;
The second 'example' you cite of the spitfire is highly ambiguous and I am unsure at to what its purpose here is. This is for several reasons.
Firstly, it does not appear to be researchable.
Next, it appears to make the point about buried at 'much greater depths', but makes zero reference to any depths whatsoever. So, 4" instead of 2"? Without qualification this is meaningless.
When the family hamster died earlier this year, I buried her out by the lake in the front garden as the ground is softer to dig. The soil covering her little bed with her body in was only a few inches deep, but she was 'buried'. So again, buried can literally mean just covered as long as it can no longer be seen.
There is also the missing chronological reference - how long ago did the spitfire crash? There is no hole or crater now, apart from what looks like a hole dug for investigation purposes. It appears that the ground is flat and even, albeit the grass has been stripped back. Does 'lowland' also mean 'wetland'?
Finally. The fact the aircraft compacted upon crashing tends to point to it being a lot easier to simply hit the ground, get considerably reduced in size and then over a period of time, get covered in earth. What was/is the ground used for? What has happened there subsequently?
With so much missing information, what is the similarity to Shanksville?
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When the family hamster died earlier this year, I buried her out by the lake in the front garden as the ground is softer to dig. The soil covering her little bed with her body in was only a few inches deep, but she was 'buried'. So again, buried can literally mean just covered as long as it can no longer be seen.
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Sorry to hear about the hamster. One of our parrots also died last year and is buried in the garden.
Is it just the terminology that's getting in the way here? The usual meaning of "bury" is to create a hole, put something in it, then cover it. But that's not the only meaning. Bullets get buried in objects without any digging necessary, for example.
But as far as the aircraft crash debris being "buried" is concerned, then "embedded" might be a better word, to avoid misunderstanding. The crater would be defined as the hole left after the impact/explosion have passed. It would be delimited by the new soil surface exposed. Then aircraft debris "buried" or "embedded" would be debris that is below the surface of the crater (or below ground elsewhere, for that matter).
At Shanksville some of the debris was "embedded" and some was scattered (i.e. on the surface). The embedded debris had to be dug out from beyond the boundaries of the crater.
The Spitfire photo was just an example of a plane that became embedded to a significant degree.
Hope this clears things up a little.
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Thanks.
Perhaps at least Marky will now stop fretting about how a red bandana could survive at Shanksville. |
what a ****, not could survive. survived without blood, dirt, or being burnt, it looks new!
it looks like someone has just been to marks and spencers then dumped it at the crashsite. also HOW do they know its the hijackers?
this is getting stupid every other crash has wreckage left, yet at shanksville..... 1 small piece of metal in the ground and nothing else. yet they photograph and record everything, yet no proof of the rest of the plane anywhere. |
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| Quote: | it looks like someone has just been to marks and spencers then dumped it at the crashsite. also HOW do they know its the hijackers?
this is getting stupid every other crash has wreckage left, yet at shanksville..... 1 small piece of metal in the ground and nothing else. yet they photograph and record everything, yet no proof of the rest of the plane anywhere. |
Perhaps it is time to visit the nearest mall and start shouting?
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| telecasterisation wrote: | | Quote: | it looks like someone has just been to marks and spencers then dumped it at the crashsite. also HOW do they know its the hijackers?
this is getting stupid every other crash has wreckage left, yet at shanksville..... 1 small piece of metal in the ground and nothing else. yet they photograph and record everything, yet no proof of the rest of the plane anywhere. |
Perhaps it is time to visit the nearest mall and start shouting? |
maybe thats the only option left, as our media like to avoid fair reporting on the issues if they report anything at all. maybe thats why the conner bloke feels he has to do it? |
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| Quote: | | it looks like someone has just been to marks and spencers then dumped it at the crashsite. |
I would add that people who shop at M & S would not be seen dead in a muddy field.
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| Quote: | | I buried her out by the lake in the front garden |
I buried mine on the island in my lake. Well - the butler did it but I gave him instructions. |
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| telecasterisation wrote: | | Quote: | | it looks like someone has just been to marks and spencers then dumped it at the crashsite. |
I would add that people who shop at M & S would not be seen dead in a muddy field. |
yes agree, but looking at the item and how hideous it looks i thought that thats where the item may well of came from  |
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..... yet at shanksville..... 1 small piece of metal in the ground and nothing else. yet they photograph and record everything, yet no proof of the rest of the plane anywhere. |
Lordy.
Either you've never been to Google images and entered Shanksville , or you've morphed from fence-sitter to prole fart clone in the space of a few short weeks.
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| Ignatz wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: |
..... yet at shanksville..... 1 small piece of metal in the ground and nothing else. yet they photograph and record everything, yet no proof of the rest of the plane anywhere. |
Lordy.
Either you've never been to Google images and entered Shanksville , or you've morphed from fence-sitter to prole fart clone in the space of a few short weeks. |
your peddling the theory that the plane buried itself when there is only one photo that exsists of them digging anything up, a small piece of metal compared to the plane that crashed there. now this is simple if your claim is true then theres numerous photo's of them digging up numerous parts of the plane that buried itself? no we only ever see one so wheres the rest of the plane that buried itself? how hard is it to understand. they photograph and record everything so there must be something that shows them digging up the majority of the fuselage from at least cockpit to engines before the explosion, compacted into a huge piece of sqaushed metal, whilst the rest of the plane caught up in the explosion was shattered into bits. there should be a huge lump of metal in the ground but we dont see it. ive seen the wrekage in example pictures and they were not buried or even muddy so i assume thats the part that got shattered. wheres the plane in the ground! apart from a circular piece of metal thats small compared to the size of an passenger airliner. we hear reports of engines but again nothing to show they exsisted nothing... they would of been photographed and recorded before being moved, so where are they? where is the rest of the plane other than a few bits that make up 2% at most of a passenger airliner. its like proving a car crashed where stated and just showing a headlamp as evidence and expecting everyone to believe the rest by someone just saying so even though its a crime scene and all the car wreckage should of been recorded. it seems i have to believe the plane both buried itself and exploded underground whilst leaving a tiny crater to believe any of this. the plane vapourised, no it buried itself, no it buried itself then exploded and wreckage vanished, no it exploded into tiny pieces then buried itself. which one am i suppose to believe? |
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..... yet at shanksville..... 1 small piece of metal in the ground and nothing else. yet they photograph and record everything, yet no proof of the rest of the plane anywhere. |
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your peddling the theory that the plane buried itself when there is only one photo that exsists of them digging anything up, a small piece of metal compared to the plane that crashed there. now this is simple if your claim is true then theres numerous photo's of them digging up numerous parts of the plane that buried itself? ...... |
How many photos would it take to convince you?
If they exist, would you claim they were faked?
Do the flight 93 FDR and CVR impress you? If not, why not?
Do you reject the DNA tests that identified the victims?
Here's just a few:
-- Marion Britton, 53, New York, N.Y., assistant regional director, U.S. Census Bureau
-- Thomas E. Burnett Jr., 38, San Ramon, Calif., senior vice president , Thoratec Corp.
-- William Joseph Cashman, 60, West New York, N.J., construction worker
-- Georgine Rose Corrigan, 56, Honolulu, Hawaii, antiques and collectibles dealer
-- Patricia Cushing, 69, Bayonne, N.J., retiree
-- Joseph Deluca, 52, Ledgewood, N.J., systems business consultant, Pfizer Inc.
-- Patrick Joseph Driscoll, 70, Point Pleasant Beach, N.J., retired research director, Bell Communications
-- Edward P. Felt, 41, Matawan, N.J., technology director, BEA Systems
-- Jane C. Folger, 73, Bayonne, N.J., retiree
Business people, retirees, students, manual workers ....
All executed off-site by the CIA?
All disappeared and living in Bolivia?
Please let us know what you think happened to them, if they didn't die at Shanksville.
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| Ignatz wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: |
..... yet at shanksville..... 1 small piece of metal in the ground and nothing else. yet they photograph and record everything, yet no proof of the rest of the plane anywhere. |
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your peddling the theory that the plane buried itself when there is only one photo that exsists of them digging anything up, a small piece of metal compared to the plane that crashed there. now this is simple if your claim is true then theres numerous photo's of them digging up numerous parts of the plane that buried itself? ...... |
How many photos would it take to convince you?
If they exist, would you claim they were faked?
Do the flight 93 FDR and CVR impress you? If not, why not?
Do you reject the DNA tests that identified the victims?
Here's just a few:
-- Marion Britton, 53, New York, N.Y., assistant regional director, U.S. Census Bureau
-- Thomas E. Burnett Jr., 38, San Ramon, Calif., senior vice president , Thoratec Corp.
-- William Joseph Cashman, 60, West New York, N.J., construction worker
-- Georgine Rose Corrigan, 56, Honolulu, Hawaii, antiques and collectibles dealer
-- Patricia Cushing, 69, Bayonne, N.J., retiree
-- Joseph Deluca, 52, Ledgewood, N.J., systems business consultant, Pfizer Inc.
-- Patrick Joseph Driscoll, 70, Point Pleasant Beach, N.J., retired research director, Bell Communications
-- Edward P. Felt, 41, Matawan, N.J., technology director, BEA Systems
-- Jane C. Folger, 73, Bayonne, N.J., retiree
Business people, retirees, students, manual workers ....
All executed off-site by the CIA?
All disappeared and living in Bolivia?
Please let us know what you think happened to them, if they didn't die at Shanksville. |
here he goes again twisting what im saying. i didnt say they didnt die there im questioning if the plane did bury itself or as other reports suggest it was shot down, if the plane did what you said it did why is there nothing much in the ground to be seen? and why is your account differant to the offical version? or is the offical version what ever critics say it is? was we lied to, or did they get the first storey wrong? you know the one everyone was questioning to start with. looks like people were right to question the events as the offical version keeps changing(where critics are concerned), on every part of the event. vapourised planes are a thing of the past yet was mentioned constantly earlier on. so some clarity of what the offical version ie: the goverment are saying happened (not the critics) is needed.
Please let us know what you think happened to them, if they didn't die at Shanksville.[/quote]
now find where i said this? go on have a look no where do i say they didnt die at shanksville.
as ive said a million times at a crime scene they record and photograph everything so im sure if your right these photo's exsist. finding the one of the buried part of the plane would settle it enough for me to except you may be right. |
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now find where i said this? go on have a look no where do i say they didnt die at shanksville.
as ive said a million times at a crime scene they record and photograph everything so im sure if your right these photo's exsist. finding the one of the buried part of the plane would settle it enough for me to except you may be right. |
Good. You accept they died at Shanksville. That's reassuring.
Why then are you concerned about the exact state of the wreckage and seeing photos of it? How would photos of plane and human remains clarify anything for you?
To show the plane was shot down, perhaps that it broke up in mid-air?
That would probably leave much bigger pieces of plane at the crash site. Ditto a terrorist bomb on board (see Lockerbie).
Please make your point. Clearly. Tell us what it is that concerns you, given that you accept that Flight 93 hit the ground at Shanksville.
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| Ignatz wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | ..
now find where i said this? go on have a look no where do i say they didnt die at shanksville.
as ive said a million times at a crime scene they record and photograph everything so im sure if your right these photo's exsist. finding the one of the buried part of the plane would settle it enough for me to except you may be right. |
Good. You accept they died at Shanksville. That's reassuring.
Why then are you concerned about the exact state of the wreckage and seeing photos of it? How would photos of plane and human remains clarify anything for you?
To show the plane was shot down, perhaps that it broke up in mid-air?
That would probably leave much bigger pieces of plane at the crash site. Ditto a terrorist bomb on board (see Lockerbie).
Please make your point. Clearly. Tell us what it is that concerns you, given that you accept that Flight 93 hit the ground at Shanksville. |
the only thing im intrested in is proof that the plane buried itself, im not intrested in human remains your assuming again. if the plane crashed how you said and did what you said then there will be proof of this other than the 1 small piece being passed of as half a boeing in the ground. they would of photographed the portion of plane in the ground after removing any human remains, so it exsists if your right, as they would of recorded and photographed every piece recovered. or was it only the small circular thing they recovered from underground? if so how do they know or how can they claim the plane buried itself? it would of been one small piece that buried itself not the plane. |
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the only thing im intrested in is proof that the plane buried itself.... |
Why ?
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| because so far there is no evidence the plane buried itself, theres only proof a small(compared to plane) piece of metal buried itself. which i thought i made obvious 2-3 posts ago, or maybe your just playing dumb? |
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| marky 54 wrote: | | because so far there is no evidence the plane buried itself, theres only proof a small(compared to plane) piece of metal buried itself. which i thought i made obvious 2-3 posts ago, or maybe your just playing dumb? |
No. You seem to accept that flight 93 crashed at Shanksville, killing all on the plane. Correct me if I'm wrong.
If you accept this, I really don't see why the detail of how much of the plane was buried and/or blown up is very relevant. It was a plane crash, at high speed, at a steep angle. A totally catastrophic event, for which there are few precedents.
That's what I'm asking you to explain. Why do you care about the detail?
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| Ignatz wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | | because so far there is no evidence the plane buried itself, theres only proof a small(compared to plane) piece of metal buried itself. which i thought i made obvious 2-3 posts ago, or maybe your just playing dumb? |
No. You seem to accept that flight 93 crashed at Shanksville, killing all on the plane. Correct me if I'm wrong.
If you accept this, I really don't see why the detail of how much of the plane was buried and/or blown up is very relevant. It was a plane crash, at high speed, at a steep angle. A totally catastrophic event, for which there are few precedents.
That's what I'm asking you to explain. Why do you care about the detail? |
because it justified 2 wars and thats just so far, its striped away our freedoms and will be used to strip away more, because there are reports that contridict the offical storey, because hundreds of thousands of people have died and theres a suggestion its all on a lie. was it shot down? did it happen how the goverment said or how you suggest? was the site faked?
there are many reasons why. so if the plane buried itself they would of photographed the wreckage they dug up so where is the evidence that the plane buried itself other than a small piece of metal?
i dont see how agreeing people died at shanksville automatically makes what you said happened true, when theres no evidence that it is true so far. |
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| marky 54 wrote: | | Ignatz wrote: | | That's what I'm asking you to explain. Why do you care about the detail? |
because it justified 2 wars and thats just so far, its striped away our freedoms and will be used to strip away more, because there are reports that contridict the offical storey, because hundreds of thousands of people have died and theres a suggestion its all on a lie. was it shot down? did it happen how the goverment said or how you suggest? was the site faked?
there are many reasons why. so if the plane buried itself they would of photographed the wreckage they dug up so where is the evidence that the plane buried itself other than a small piece of metal?
i dont see how agreeing people died at shanksville automatically makes what you said happened true, when theres no evidence that it is true so far. |
You believe the crash site might have been faked, yet you accept the plane crashed there and killed all on board.
That doesn't make a grain of sense. Surely you can see that?
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ok mr, your leading me on a pointless argument to avoid the fact you have NO evidence that the plane buried itself, yet if it had the evidence would be there for it. end of discussion, as i thought your guessing or lieing about the plane burying itself. one piece of small metal did however, but how you can state that is a plane has to make one wonder why your lieing instead of being honest. you said the plane buried itself prove it.
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people died at shanksville that dosnt mean in the tiny crater dimwit.
i state over and over reports conflict and you carnt show the proof to support your conspiracy theory and you carnt grasp why evidence is important. |
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| Ignatz wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | | Ignatz wrote: | | That's what I'm asking you to explain. Why do you care about the detail? |
because it justified 2 wars and thats just so far, its striped away our freedoms and will be used to strip away more, because there are reports that contridict the offical storey, because hundreds of thousands of people have died and theres a suggestion its all on a lie. was it shot down? did it happen how the goverment said or how you suggest? was the site faked?
there are many reasons why. so if the plane buried itself they would of photographed the wreckage they dug up so where is the evidence that the plane buried itself other than a small piece of metal?
i dont see how agreeing people died at shanksville automatically makes what you said happened true, when theres no evidence that it is true so far. |
You believe the crash site might have been faked, yet you accept the plane crashed there and killed all on board.
That doesn't make a grain of sense. Surely you can see that?
See ya. |
lier! why lie?
i said people died at shankville, i didnt say the plane crashed where the crater is. why do you have to twist or add or make up what people say?
the plane may of crashed there but im trying to prove wrong or eliminate sources of information, ie: the claims the site were faked but again you had to lie and say i said it was faked when its obvious im refering to the reports/sites that say that. how simple is it? prove the plane buried itself and voila most of what other peoples claims are challenged at the very least the faked crashsite claims are out the window, but it carnt just be excepted on your say so you need proof. |
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Ignatz
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| marky 54 wrote: |
lier! why lie?
i said people died at shankville, i didnt say the plane crashed where the crater is. why do you have to twist or add or make up what people say?
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One last attempt to introduce you a bit of reasoning :
You believe the Flight 93 victims died in the Shanksville crash.
You believe the crater may have been faked.
If the crater was faked, where then did the plane actually crash?
And why was the crater faked?
That was a site miles down a lot of winding country lanes. A remote country location. Where's the evidence that a secret cleanup team removed the *real* crash debris? Any evidence or testimony of unexplained men,lorries,diggers etc somewhere other than the official crash site?
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marky 54 wrote;
| Quote: | people died at shanksville that dosnt mean in the tiny crater dimwit.
i state over and over reports conflict and you carnt show the proof to support your conspiracy theory and you carnt grasp why evidence is important. |
Without wishing to appear in any way derogatory marky, WE are the conspiracy theorists and Iggy isn't. He is saying there is no conspiracy, it happened as we are told.
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marky 54
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| telecasterisation wrote: | marky 54 wrote;
| Quote: | people died at shanksville that dosnt mean in the tiny crater dimwit.
i state over and over reports conflict and you carnt show the proof to support your conspiracy theory and you carnt grasp why evidence is important. |
Without wishing to appear in any way derogatory marky, WE are the conspiracy theorists and Iggy isn't. He is saying there is no conspiracy, it happened as we are told. |
the hijackers conspired to crash planes into buildings ect iggy has a thoery but as yet no proof. |
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