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Snowygrouch Validated Poster
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Fallious Moderate Poster
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Wowsa, fantastic work. Just out of intrest how did you get at and display the data?
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Snowygrouch Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Ahhhh......(he says with a wistful expression).....
THAT would be telling now wouldn't it??
Actually you`ll have to ask our computer bod that one, and I`m not telling you who it is.
Basically its just a matter of converting binary to ASCII. That is a bit like the following
001100111001001 <then becomes> WORD1=345
This is bloody useless as you get about half a million lines like that, but with the data frames it tells you what each number actually IS. So for example WORD1 could be groundspeed in MPH. So without the data frame its effectively completely useless.
Something like that anyway. I`m the intel gatherer not the number cruncher......
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Fallious Moderate Poster
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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I wasn't so interested in the people, (marvellous as you are) rather the actual data processing. I've done some reverse engineering in my time (just tinkering, mind) so I know where they'd have started. I was more interested if there was publicly available commercial software to interpret the data, which I'm guessing is a solid 'no'. Anyhow, best of luck with the BBC.
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Snowygrouch Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Yes there is commercially available software for decoding black box data files. If you dont mind paying £10,000 a go!
Avionica and Flightscape make the packages.
If you meant decompilers in general I`m sure you can "get hold" of one on www.katz.ws
Anyway...
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ComfortablyNumb Minor Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:05 am Post subject: |
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This is excellent news. it great to actually read that some real research is being done rather than just trawling YouTube.
Cant wait to hear the results
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: |
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01000110010 0010101 0101010010101 101 1010011 101010 01101
So yeah good luck .
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:42 am Post subject: |
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I wish you success in your efforts Calum.
All we can each do is expose the lies and inconsistencies in the official story. Analysis Flight recorder data is yet another aspect of that.
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wickywoowoo Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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On a similar note to this, has anyone ordered some DVD's from the Pilots for 9/11 website?
They are selling some DVD's centered about Black Box information, aren't they? At least that is what I thought it was when I ordered it, lol.
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Stefan Banned
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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You mean the pilots for 9/11 who are basically selling Calum's work without crediting him, and claiming to have made the FIA request themselves in interviews?
Some good stuff on their site, but they're scum bags. I wouldn't give them money.
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wickywoowoo Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Stefan wrote: | You mean the pilots for 9/11 who are basically selling Calum's work without crediting him, and claiming to have made the FIA request themselves in interviews?
Some good stuff on their site, but they're scum bags. I wouldn't give them money. |
Well, don't I get good about purchasing from them now....
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Snowygrouch Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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I`d like to make a VERY important clarification here.
1: Pilots for truth DID get the raw black box data file from FOIA request
2: I got the NTSB Animation which shows the flightpath
3: I got the data frame layouts which enable the raw file to be decoded
Pilots for truth ARE the people I work with (and have been on the sly for months and months).
I ENCOURAGE WITH UTMOST URGENCY that everyone DOES BUY from Pilots for Truth. Although I personally do not gain financially from their sales and have no particular need to do so.
Go to their website and buy all you want, its top quality and has my full endorsement.
The only prerequsite I gave PFT is that I am credited fully in any documentaries they make.
There are some really really good people there who I know (over the net at least) very well. They are good as gold and deserve your support for putting this all together.
There is absooultey NO WAY we would have got to this stage with the Flight Data Recorders without alot of help from both sides of the Atlantic!
Calum
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Stefan Banned
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Fair enough Snowygrouch,
I've never seen any credit to you in any of their interviews or webpages, and depsite your recommendation, I still wont buy one of their DVDS. I appreciate the clarification on the FIA request though.
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Pikey Banned
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Snowygrouch Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Pikey,
Really sorry but I`m starting Uni term again on the Monday so I really cant spare a weekend!
I`d love to have come up though. Perhaps another time?
C.
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