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ian neal
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iro

where I agree with you is that the public face of this campaign and the nature of this forum needs revisiting and refocusing. These issues are being discussed and will be the focus of a meeting in February. Anyone who wants to feed their ideas into to me (beyond the ideas people have already fed in) feel free to contact me. Apologies to those who i owe a phone call to.

In the meanwhile, apologies to all for the short-comings of the forum. It is not so much that the need for change is not recognised as reaching common ground on how best to rework both the forum and the campaign. What with other things, you know, family, work and the need to take a break every now and again, this is taking longer than I'd hoped but hope all of us who recognise the need for a new inquiry will recognise what we have in common and stay positive.

best wishes to all for 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ian - thankyou for addressing my post. it is constructive pragmatic and non blinkered members of this forum and movement like yourself that will give this whole thing a future

blindly following and ignoring all the 'bad stuff' like pikey does will do nothing. The guy probably thinks i hate him - but i think he's a good guy with a good heart, but he is out of place in the paradigm of cold political reality. That is the arena of this campaign whether you like it or not. Living a utopian lie has so far damaged this 'group' and it needs to sort out its focus badly.

idealism should never be abandoned, but we inhabit a 5 sense paradigm for the most part and live our lives in it for the most part so therefore idealism must be balanced, structured and tempered to accommodate our shared 'reality' despite our private spiritual, idealistic or otherwise tendencies.

i look forward to your progress and value the time you spend on this campaign. All my criticism is constructive and with good intention despite certain readers just seeing the critique without the message. Negativity is not my intention - a massive kick up the arse to put it bluntly is...why...? ...because i care. If that is not a good enough reason for pikey and others to read my criticism with validity then they are deluded.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, my account has been reinstated.

I would just like to offer my thanks to everyone who fought my corner. Even those who blatantly wanted to see the back of me, at least you had an opinion and that is what being here is all about.

Upon reflection, there were occasions where I possibly overstepped the mark without realising the impact my words were having and if I offended anyone, then I sincerely apologise (except to blackcat obviously).

But that is not the point now;

This whole episode has left a nasty taste and consequently this will be my final post here. There was a principle at stake more than anything else and although it was seen that I was 'bleating', it was far more a cry to get a rather ramshackle house in order. Hopefully, with a more structured and understood framework of admin procedures, this will not happen again.

Perhaps other cases of recent bans might be reconsidered, a complete amnesty although major offenders accept one dodgy post and they are gone?

Anyway, thanks again, I really enjoyed my time here.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lack of apology accepted. Bye bye.

Here's something for you to listen to and get a warm glow. Eric Schlosser's view of America via the fast food industry. 15 minute interview on BBC Radio 4 about "Fast Food Nation", his successful book, and now his fictional film about a fast food restaurant in which he claims to show the reality of the industry in present day America.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/mainframe.shtml?http://www.bbc.co.uk/ra dio/aod/radio4_aod.shtml?radio4/youandyours

Navigate in to 25 minutes for interview.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: don't Reply with quote

Oh Tele, don't leave us, you sarcatistic mother******! No need to leave.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick Brown wrote:
Snowygrouch wrote:
What in the name of the beard of belshabarr are the "hidden forums"?

Sounds all sort of cloak'n'dagger n'stuff!

C.

Snowy just PM Andrew and ask him to add you to the “Private Forums” usergroup


Private forums? Hidden areas and agendas?!

Honestly - some of you here have waaay too much time on your hands.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

utopiated wrote:
Patrick Brown wrote:
Snowygrouch wrote:
What in the name of the beard of belshabarr are the "hidden forums"?

Sounds all sort of cloak'n'dagger n'stuff!

C.

Snowy just PM Andrew and ask him to add you to the “Private Forums” usergroup


Private forums? Hidden areas and agendas?!

Honestly - some of you here have waaay too much time on your hands.

Too much time or not enough? Busy people are often seen following a carrot on a stick! What's it this month, new flat screen tv, holiday or a new shinny car?

Simple is as simple does. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

utopiated wrote:
Patrick Brown wrote:
Snowygrouch wrote:
What in the name of the beard of belshabarr are the "hidden forums"?

Sounds all sort of cloak'n'dagger n'stuff!

C.

Snowy just PM Andrew and ask him to add you to the “Private Forums” usergroup


Private forums? Hidden areas and agendas?!

Honestly - some of you here have waaay too much time on your hands.


Nothing clandestine about the hidden forums. Hardly any traffic there anyway. It is merely a space to discuss stuff in private for those that feel the need.

IMO (and in the opinion of many others) there is a need to rethink how the campaign presents itself in public.

There is clearly a demand for a public discussion forum to debate 9/11 and the whole war on terror picture but this needs to be separated from the campaign to reopen 9/11. This will be the case I will be putting forward at the meeting February to discuss the future direction of this forum.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

telecasterisation wrote:
Yes, my account has been reinstated.

I would just like to offer my thanks to everyone who fought my corner. Even those who blatantly wanted to see the back of me, at least you had an opinion and that is what being here is all about.

Upon reflection, there were occasions where I possibly overstepped the mark without realising the impact my words were having and if I offended anyone, then I sincerely apologise (except to blackcat obviously).

But that is not the point now;

This whole episode has left a nasty taste and consequently this will be my final post here. There was a principle at stake more than anything else and although it was seen that I was 'bleating', it was far more a cry to get a rather ramshackle house in order. Hopefully, with a more structured and understood framework of admin procedures, this will not happen again.

Perhaps other cases of recent bans might be reconsidered, a complete amnesty although major offenders accept one dodgy post and they are gone?

Anyway, thanks again, I really enjoyed my time here.


Telecasterisation, I'm sorry to see you go.

I took a bashing from you once but you were right and I changed my view accordingly. We need people like you or else we just become prisoners to the people who run this forum who themselves support Alex Jones and his bid to free us from a prison planet. Bizarre!

Good luck for the future.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say this whole debacle has been as confusing as the ST911 split.

Anyroad, sorry to see you go and do consider dropping by informally every now and again.

Cheerio. I`ll miss your Bill Bailey avatar.

C.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect it was the avatar I hated most - such a smug BB face. Same with Patrick - I find that avatar repugnant and creepy I hate him for it
What you think about my rabbit? Should I change it?
The images are for sure a sore bone of contention

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes indeed Bill did have a "smug git" expression in that pic, but on the other hand I love Bill Bailey so there you go.

As for the rabbit, I`ve often wondered where you got the pic from and if the little critter is based on some sort of cartoon character or just a ramdom. He reminds me a little of the freaky rabbit in Donnie Darko.

I think changing your avatar is a personal matter but I wouldnt.....

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick and Fallious avators are really sick
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snowygrouch wrote:
Yes indeed Bill did have a "smug git" expression in that pic, but on the other hand I love Bill Bailey so there you go.

As for the rabbit, I`ve often wondered where you got the pic from and if the little critter is based on some sort of cartoon character or just a ramdom. He reminds me a little of the freaky rabbit in Donnie Darko.

I think changing your avatar is a personal matter but I wouldnt.....

C.

Hmm I'll eventually find the artist source for mine. Yours Snowygrouch is perfect in a way - really low key and unobjectionable

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I think my new avatar is fairly horrible and that pleases me.
If anything, it's not horrible enough

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well we never did find out why Tele was banned. We also never found out why 4U2P wasn't banned!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Release the evidence!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogsmilk wrote:
Well I think my new avatar is fairly horrible and that pleases me.
If anything, it's not horrible enough

Gorgeous. I wonder what I'd think of you if I hadn't met you in real life and I had to accept you as Tony Piranhaeyes and Dogsmilk -lac caninum hmmm very interesting. Probably as a bit of a prat. I think I must be a book-cover judge

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