Call to arms

[Snowygrouch]

All,
It has become increasingly apparent to me that there are differences of opinion in our movement that are currently impossible to resolve to the satisfaction of all parties.

It has also become apparent to me in the past year especially the magnitude of the task ahead, and indeed the sort of resistance that is aligned against truth.

Thus I am making a plea that we all must align ourselves stictly in the order of battle to dissolve these barriers before its too late. Divisive attitudes must vanish from our thoughts no matter what our own personal feelings may be. This issue is far far too important to allow such things to interfere with it.

Whilst there are cetain issues I cannot at present agree with; I think it better that such differences are considered as they are. Irrelavent to our cause.

In short for me this entails one thing, on this site I will not be engaging in any debate with fellow members on topics such as NPT and Star-wars weapons. I have already posted such information as I deem nessesary to promote my perspective. Further debate is a waste of all our energy. Exactly what the perps would like.

In essence I would like to see a major shift in our efforts on this forum; I would like to see us concentrating on events, talks and 9II promotion. things that we all see sense in. This is why we are here, that is what we MUST ALL do NOW!

This forum is in many ways the UK pivotal point for campaign and thats what we must make it.

I will continue to post my research here as and when it appears, I will comment on threads but will NOT engage in dispute with fellow members on controvertial theories.

In exchange I expect that others check their sources carefully before posting, no more; no less.

Whilst I am not a moderator nor hold any seniority here I hope the views in this post have an effect.

Good luck and lets get these F*******S before its too late.

Calum

[rodin]

You are absolutely right. We cannot afford to waste time. We need to connect the next (larger) layer of the population to the utter deception being played on them by a ruthless elite. If they can be made aware of where they are being herded perhaps they will feel motivated to join the call to arms too.

The Pilot's film is one of many great exposes of the lie. We ourselves are producing (mostly) anti-NWO music and just getting into video production....

http://dissential.com/d-notice/no2id-video

...and so may be able to offer some expertise.

I think that a short list of irrefutible evidence should be drafted for maximum dissemination. The idea is to decide what evidence to include by testing each piece to destruction.

The rules for inclusion would be

1) Absolutely irrefutible (not just very likely)
2) Major piece of evidence (like the free-fall collapses)

This would be backed up by another list of the strongest circumstantial evidence (like the Silverstein/WTC connections)

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=6370

I am pretty sure that the perpetrators of 911 were corrupted US officials and Israelis. Just how far a simple easy-to-understand bullet-point flyer/ad should go in exposing the Israeli connection is a moot point. Cries of 'racist' and 'anti-semite' by our controlled fourth estate will inevitably muddy the waters.

A good video introducing the subject of who is really behind 911 77 and all false flag wars, depressions and terrorism

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=100643

GIM is an excellent forum BTW. And they debate issues that concern you

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=100828

[thought criminal]

This is all well and good but in my experience the majority of the public simply are not ready for this information. Everytime information is presented it to them they simply go into denial mode. Christ, there are enough documentaries out there but no-one wants to look. Please do not think I am being negative but the denial we are dealing with is akin to some universal mental illness and as we have all found this is a tough nut to crack. I am sure we could make another 100 documentaries and still they would take no notice. We need more people in the public eye to take it to the masses. Television and celebrity appear to be God in this day and age and we need more 'stars' to have the guts to stand up and shout to the rooftops. We need more physicists, more scientists. WHERE ARE THEY?

The world is full of liars and cowards. This is what I have learned from all of this.

[Snowygrouch]

TC,
If you really beleive the world is FULL of liars and cowards you had best throw in the towel now.
There are certainly a fair few but bitterness isnt going to get us anywhere even if I do know exactly the feeling.
As for scientists; there are people working on that. ST911 was one before the actiities I mentioned above broke it up. Hence my post.

Nobody said this was going to be easy or fast so all the more reason to not let it get you down. Thats what THEY want.

I intend to put an advert in some local papers this week asking for anyone interested in 9/11 to form a group. We shall see what happens.

C.

[thought criminal]

[Light Infantree]

Nice one Callum. The kind of choice you have made is the same that many others have already made and others will need to make before we all dissappear up our own back sides. Perhaps we all need to 'make the pledge'

Stick to the facts

Keep it simple. The truth will do the talking.

Warriors of truth must avoid getting distracted into matters that are going to hold themselves back in the 'battle'. There comes a time when one just has 'go' with what one has got. That time is now. It no good standing around talking about NPT while the opposition are running toward you. We must symbolically stand and fight. At the current rate we are going to be a facist global state and we will still be arguing the toss about my mate thermite or whoops Mrs Miggens, where the blooming plane?

Are we Warriors or Worriers?

Stay on target

Remain focused

Take some effing responsibilty

.....and remember to have tea at regular intervals

Lets have a truth campaign, hey?
Lets see what we can really achieve.

Thanks Callum, for reminding me how I feel.

Will the hundreth monkey please turn the light on?

[blackcat]

When did you wise up to 9/11 Thought Criminal? It was almost three years after the event that I began to realise that I was being spoonfed nonsense. I consider myself to be sceptical and intelligent and the reason I knew nothing about the reality of 9/11 is because I got no other alternative view until people like Dylan Avery et al came along. People are not so cowardly as you think. They mostly lead busy lives raising kids and working 12 hour days to get by. Our task is to get the alternative view of 9/11 promulgated as widely as possible. I know of three people I have "converted" and there may be many more who have taken the dvds I have distributed and who I do not even know. We are getting there and the dam WILL break. If the draft is raised in the USA or the war escalates to Iran, Syria etc. then it will happen sooner. Bush is finished and his police state will not be able to cope. Keep the faith!

[rodin]

[Snowygrouch]

I firmly belive that our actions thus far have saved people lives.

The profile 9/11 now has is (I believe) enough to have prevented some of the more audacious false flag ops on the table becoming reality and has undoubtedly made more middle-east invasions much harder for them to achieve.

Even that is worth having done even if its all we end up achieving. There are alot of people in high places waiting for the right time before coming forward. It needs a critical mass before people like MPs and others will risk it. But it WILL happen. IF we concentrate.

C

[Patrick Brown]

Yes I've pretty much decided not to engage other member in conversations which just muddy the waters. At least theories that are more controversial have their own section and I hope the mods will move any such threads to said place.

I still think that 911 is intrinsically bound up with other events that are an initiation into a new age. People shouldn't kid themselves as the north and south poles will melt and hundreds of millions will die. So what's this initiation all about then? Well I think it's a bit like packing to go on holiday! We all need to ask ourselves what we're going to put in our “mental suitcase”. It's time for each of us to evaluate what's most important. Perhaps a better name for the new age would be “the crossing”.

Most of us live in a stagnant prison of concrete and brick so all I can say is remember to flow and remember non attachment. For better or worse most of us realise that everything is going to change. Time to let go of that and choose this.

[thought criminal]

[rodin]

[thought criminal]

[rodin]

@ T-C

Maybe it's as well I couldn't find the ignore button because as well as promoting bean weapons I see you also promote 'spirituality'. This provoked the following response

A warning to all about shilling

911 CT debunkers (these shills have no chance anywhere now so are becoming rarer)

'Earth Change' promoters would have you looking at an environmental/supernatural boogayman isread of the very Earthly power poised to strike (also beware New Agers)

Posters who take threads off into new directions so the core theme gets lost. Look how quickly this thread was pounced on after my response to snowy.

'Nothing we can do about it' merchants also spread baloney. We can do somethng about it. At least we should try.

How the internet came about is a moot point - I have a hunch it was a Trojan Horse - sold as a 'secure communication system' to the US government. How many of us would have found out about the matrix without it? The viral internet has the capacity to spread the resistance meme logarithmically.

Our money masters know this.

The object of their disinfo operators is to place obstacles in the way of people trying got get to the bottom of things at every opportunity. It's a pity thread starters can't have 2 versions of their thread visible - the full Monty and one containing only those posts that they consider are relevant to the thread. I have seen many promising threads devolve into name-calling. The shills love it. The more you call them names the more their ploy is working. They probably get a bonus based on the number of expletives they attract.

[rodin]

So back to the subject - a call to arms. I offer my services. Who else is willing to take up the fight?

[rodin]

[ian neal]

So much truth and wise words on this thread. Thanks Callum. It renews my faith that there are many here that share the dream of a united truth and justice movement (not just about 9/11). We are making considerable progress but this is precious hard to see if this forum were the only reference point.

I know this forum needs rethinking and this will happen. A small group will meet in February to finalise these changes. The resulting plan will be run by all key campaigners and there will be an opportunity for everyone to comment.

So rather than carry on here, I will get back to working up on this. Thanks

[thought criminal]

[rodin]

[thought criminal]

I have decided I no longer want anything to do with this board. During my time here I have been constantly verbally abused and treated like an adversary and not a comrade just because I dare speak out about my own theories of what happened on the 11th September, 2001. I have also found myself biting the bait and responding in a likewise immature manner and I apologise for this.

I wish you all the best and I will continue with my rigorous campaigning as I did before, on my own terms.

Kind Regards,

TC

[Patrick Brown]

I was beginning to think that this thread was turning into yet another farce. But at least something good has come out of it!

[Pikey]

Thanx for creating this thread Snowy. Such wise words from someone so young and intelligent.

[rodin]

Re T-C

I bet it comes back under another name, another avatar. No wonder people with posts in single figures get attacked...

Anyway, a call to arms it is. I have offered some suggestions to help.

to wit

1) some media production expertise

2) the idea of producing a simple list of evidence that can never be subjected to the straw man treatment. Good, irrefutible evidence will stand firm. (We must ruthlessly test such evidence for weakness because the opposition certainly will. Even if we present 10 points and one fails they will use this to mount a campagin against the credibility of the other 9.)

2) Is something we can get underway right now. It does not require taking to the streets etc just getting a list up of indestructible evidence. Either we develop http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=6370 or if someone has a better way of distilling the essence of a hard case against first our governments please go ahead. The posts on the hard evidence thread are a start. I would put forward the divergent Pentagon flight paths between NIST & NTSB as another piece of hard evidence perhaps? At least of a cover-up.

The internet/externet campaign to disseminate information that proves 911 was not a random Arab hijacking event but part of a profiteering and enslavement program is seriously threatening the self-styled elite. Awareness of a deception is a one-way conversion. Nobody ever goes the other way. Plus the elite (who control money supply - very important) are well aware of the importance of 'compound interest' which is a logarithmic progression (like gravity - a point missed by some so-called scientific 911 researchers). They are also aware that the internet tide running against them is logarithmic. I wake up 2 people. They each wake up 2 people and so on.

So largely via the internet we have a logarithmic and irreverrsible conversion from illusion to at least partial awareness. An analogue of this is the idea of nuclear 'critical mass' - once enough people get miffed something might happen.

No wonder the effort to 'shill it up' is in full force and getting more sophistacted all the time

To catalyse this 'critical' mass event it might be good to develop a blueprint of how to survive and manage the transition from what we have now - despotic rule from above - towards 'something else'.

[rodin]

Pikey

Sorry to rain on yr parade but the starfish story reeks of control freakery

Control over nature

The boy & prof on the beach throwing starfish into the sea - they were helping individual starfish - yes. They were helping themselves - yes (exercise, fresh air, feel-good factor)

But were they helping nature?

The starfish on the beach were maybe the dumb ones that hadn't figgered out how to avoid being stranded. Now they get a second chance.

Reeks of the 'no child left behind' meme

I remember when having a decent degree was an honour

Now not having one is a disgrace.

Sorta goes hand in hand with the house price inflation engineered by the monopoly men...

We are fighting for FREEDOM not EQUALITY

[kinjack]

Just for the record me and a mate at work who believe 911 is an inside job are nicked name "dr doom and Junior dr doom"... I thought that was like Sonics evil enemy... I mean its funny but those guys are just missing the point...

Then again they like their flat screen tele's, big brother, designer nonsense and all the things that we don't need....

If only people could really look at themselves and say I'm going to work to have the things i need and not what i want... Then maybe they would think twice about 911.

Willy Mason lyric " We can be stronger than industry if we can understand the things that we need" or somthing like that...

Anyway I'm ready for the fight and will be posting on this forum more frequently.

[uselesseater]

^ Lol your workmates sound very funny. Surely dr doom and Junior dr doom work for the establishment? Remember the 2 billion suicide bombers in the UK that we keep hearing about.

It's not WWII anymore it's now the cold war according to that piece of filth, John 'Goebbels' Reid.


Still being called anything by a couple of Gravity denying, thumb suckers is not too much of a hardship. I was called a conspiracy theorist by a creationist the other day, most ammusing.



Great sentiments by those on this thread. I think there is a lot of truth in the following statement : 'Once you free your mind, defeating the Globalists will be easy'
I'm still working on it.

[anna123]

"Survival of the fittest" Roden?...I hope I misunderstood your post,..if not I find it chilling.. If I did,apologies.

[rodin]

[Bongo]

Snowy... you know you are correct... I know you are correct. In fact... everyone on these boards knows your correct (well accept for a couple of webfairies who just enjoy the wind up... see critics corner *;o).

That is why I had to leave for a few months... I had to re-assess what the point was? but i still come to the same conclusion... And that is...

All that it takes is for one person to keep the truth alive... as long as one person does not betray the victims of 9/11 and keeps asking the tough questions... as long as one person keeps spreading the truth in the name of the thousands of war victims in Afghanistan and Iraq... as long as one person speaks out against the lies... and when the truth is on your side... losing is not an issue!

We can only play our little part... but winning is inevitable!!!

[marky 54]