Wrong angle. Note the south tower in the foreground. Some research you do!
I'd tell ya to open your eyes, but...
At least, and this is in your favour, unlike CB_Brooklyn, you think that SOMETHING hit the buildings. I'll give you that much anyway.. _________________ Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth.” - George W. Bush
So, a newcomer who has read an article or been to a talk has suspicions about 911 and decides to investigate. Or a mainstream UK journalist displays a spark of intelligence, and decides to investigate the possibility that the official version of 911 is a lie. Or a MP who has received a letter from the campaign. S/he does a search, comes to this forum and sees what?
This.
Come on folks, what are we really trying to achieve? Yes, we want the truth, and therefore we need to keep an open mind about could have happened that day. But remember how you felt when the truth began to sink in. It's a giant leap for people to even think that elements of the US administration might wilfully have murdered thousands of its own citizens for political gain. To descend into acrimonious arguments about the logistics of the day, all of which can at this stage only remain speculative, is not going to help. We need to focus on our primary task - getting as many people as possible to question the official version. _________________ All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing - Edmund Burke.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem Americanam appellant - Tacitus Redactus.
Why didn't the wings explode or break off in that second hit, if you say there was a plane? The NWO are sat pissing themselves at you lot, I swear.
Those wings should have smashed off.
This is typical NPT propaganda using out of context references.
Why are you showing the columns of a standard steel building? Look at how big that steelwork is. The floor spandrels are over 7ft and the columns are about 4ft square. What were the columns in the twin towers again? Oh that's right, just over 1 foot square and the spandrels were 3ft deep. Just look at how small the people are on that picture.
Look at that picture again and imagine the columns being a quarter of the thickness and the spandrels less than half.
I dont care what you say. Those wings should have smashed off in at least one of the so called 'plane' impacts. It's obvious a plane wing would not have had the strength required to break through that. Anyway, Annie has a point, please stop making trouble James, especially not on a Sunday night.
I dont care what you say. Those wings should have smashed off in at least one of the so called 'plane' impacts. It's obvious a plane wing would not have had the strength required to break through that. Anyway, Annie has a point, please stop making trouble James, especially not on a Sunday night.
So you ignore the salient facts and introduce your own. You then hide behind someone else as part of your own defense.
What I've come to realise is that it is the shills who are creating all the trouble on this site. To promote NPT is one thing but when it raises fair criticism, the talons immediately come out and suddenly every non NPT person is labled a fool or idiot.
You poor deluded man. The PTB have really fooled you, haven't they?
Well, I wish more of the people on here would speak up about NPT instead of shutting up and listening to endless, scabrous nonsense from the likes of Rodin.
Do as you like. I'm out of here for good this time. I am finished with this forum. There is a double agent on every corner of this place.
You see, if one is civil, and applies the scientific method, it eventually leads to the truth. Sometimes this is not a problem - if you are trying to work out an exact bond angle by electron diffraction for example. But if it is about figgering out how the criminal system that entraps us with invisible beams of debt and malice works, and especially if one chooses to disseminate that information, then the attacks begin.
Forums are amazing things. You can have discourse across the planet with like-minded people. The neural network of the forum is like a giant board room without the need to please the MD or a valued customer. It is a global think tank.
Therefore it is constantly being attacked by those with vested interest in the truth memes not spreading. Because knowledge is power and lack of knowledge is weakness.
You will also see, if one is civil, and applies the scientific method, it eventually leads to certain posters becoming abusive. They simply cannot help themselves even though by doing so they blow their cover, like those 5 Israelis caught filming and celebrating 911 - 'Our purpose was to document the event' they later blurted out on Israeli TV after the FBI played their get-out-of-jail-free card.
I say again - our number one priority is to get together a HARD CORE of evidence, then place it in a HARD SELL campaign. Not polite. Not in some remote hall preaching to the converted. But in your face. Dangerous. Fast and wide.
I dont care what you say. Those wings should have smashed off in at least one of the so called 'plane' impacts. It's obvious a plane wing would not have had the strength required to break through that. Anyway, Annie has a point, please stop making trouble James, especially not on a Sunday night.
James problem is that he needs everything to be explained like he's a child, otherwise it's "propaganda". He's not capable of understanding that the size of the steel beams mean absolutely nothing.
I say again - our number one priority is to get together a HARD CORE of evidence, then place it in a HARD SELL campaign. Not polite. Not in some remote hall preaching to the converted. But in your face. Dangerous. Fast and wide.
I agree with the above, and TV-Fakery is the biggest, most simplistic piece of evidence there is. Not only are the south tower "plane strikes" physically impossible, but educating people on this will implicate the corporate media directly as being the orchestraters of the attacks.
There are only two groups of people against TV-Fakery:
1. The 9/11 Perps. They do not want it exposed!
2. Members of the truth movement that have been conditioned by the 9/11 perps into thinking that tv-fakery is crazy, or, to not bother wasting time with it because no one would believe it anyway. This conditioning has been done by design. And any truth movement member who thinks the average person won't understand TV-Fakery doesn't know what the hell their talking about. People in the movement have been purposely conditioned to think tv-fakery is crazy. Yet, tv-fakery is the easiest way to prove inside job AND implicate the corporate media directly as being the actual orchestrators of the attacks.
'Waaaah, planes can glide through steel and concrete like bars of soap through bath water."
Silly, ignorant b-astard.
So prove it, stop posting irrelevant turds and demonstrate the impossibility of planes entering the twin towers with straightforward mathematics.
If you are right then the numbers will reflect that and then everyone, - EVERYONE - in the movement would accept that no planes were there and this whole thing would be done and dusted. But you can't can you?
And it never will be. So it'll remain disinfo, peddled by a vocal minority of abusive half-wits.
Now, you were explaining what relevance holograms have to a 9/11 truth forum?
Where's your "mathematical proof" that the WTC was a controlled demolition and not impact damage / fires ?
There are an abundance of rational arguments which show the NPT to be absurd, but there's nothing that will sway you. Once a no planer, always a no planer. I've seen it time and again. Fortunately, for the movement, there are only about 40 of you people in the world. _________________ Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth.” - George W. Bush
did you read the comments on you tube before posting this?
one says theres nothing holographic about it, they are just 2D images projected onto glass. so unless there was glass in the sky on 9/11 or you can prove wrong the comment on you tube theres nothing more to add.
'Waaaah, planes can glide through steel and concrete like bars of soap through bath water."
Silly, ignorant b-astard.
So prove it, stop posting irrelevant turds and demonstrate the impossibility of planes entering the twin towers with straightforward mathematics.
If you are right then the numbers will reflect that and then everyone, - EVERYONE - in the movement would accept that no planes were there and this whole thing would be done and dusted. But you can't can you?
And it never will be. So it'll remain disinfo, peddled by a vocal minority of abusive half-wits.
Now, you were explaining what relevance holograms have to a 9/11 truth forum?
Where's your "mathematical proof" that the WTC was a controlled demolition and not impact damage / fires ?
'Waaaah, planes can glide through steel and concrete like bars of soap through bath water."
Silly, ignorant b-astard.
So prove it, stop posting irrelevant turds and demonstrate the impossibility of planes entering the twin towers with straightforward mathematics.
If you are right then the numbers will reflect that and then everyone, - EVERYONE - in the movement would accept that no planes were there and this whole thing would be done and dusted. But you can't can you?
And it never will be. So it'll remain disinfo, peddled by a vocal minority of abusive half-wits.
Now, you were explaining what relevance holograms have to a 9/11 truth forum?
Where's your "mathematical proof" that the WTC was a controlled demolition and not impact damage / fires ?
impact damage from what? a hologram?
you're taking what I said out of context and you know it.
Where's your "mathematical proof" that the WTC was a controlled demolition and not impact damage / fires ?
impact damage from what? a hologram?
you're taking what I said out of context and you know it.
If he's taking it out of context, then explain what you meant by impact damage, Freud. _________________ "Thought is faster than arrows, and truth is sharper than blades." - David Gemmell | RealityDown wiki
I dont care what you say. Those wings should have smashed off in at least one of the so called 'plane' impacts. It's obvious a plane wing would not have had the strength required to break through that. Anyway, Annie has a point, please stop making trouble James, especially not on a Sunday night.
James problem is that he needs everything to be explained like he's a child, otherwise it's "propaganda". He's not capable of understanding that the size of the steel beams mean absolutely nothing.
And what were the sizes of the steel beams again? Oh, and while we're at it, how were those beams connected together?
Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 595 Location: Australia
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:40 am Post subject:
this is what I've sent to 3 moderators - Andrew Johnson, Ian Neal & John White;
Hi,
there's at least two new posters on this board - thought criminal and CB_Brooklyn coming to mind - who continually insult other posters without any attempts by moderators to censure them.
Considering your 'advice' to me to treat webfairy with respect or not at all on the basis of some very mild sarcasm, I find this current stance exceptionally hypocritical.
Another amateur piece of footage of the North Tower impact and, yes, you guessed it, no plane in plain sight!
This clip has already been well picked over. The same is equally true this time around;
Poor quality, taken at this distance, with a moving camera, the aircraft just a tiny blemish, a fraction of a selective enlargement way off in the corner - will not be in plain sight. Of course it is difficult to see.
To hold it up as proof of anything just will not work either way when you can't even read the number plate of the car in front just a few yards away, let alone a miniscule dot over a mile away. _________________ I completely challenge the official version of events - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC -I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC
Where's your "mathematical proof" that the WTC was a controlled demolition and not impact damage / fires ?
impact damage from what? a hologram?
you're taking what I said out of context and you know it.
If he's taking it out of context, then explain what you meant by impact damage, Freud.
Impact damage from "planes" that boxcutter believers and 9/11 Truthlings believe hit the towers. Now... did I really need to explain that to you? You're making a total idiot out of yourself
I dont care what you say. Those wings should have smashed off in at least one of the so called 'plane' impacts. It's obvious a plane wing would not have had the strength required to break through that. Anyway, Annie has a point, please stop making trouble James, especially not on a Sunday night.
James problem is that he needs everything to be explained like he's a child, otherwise it's "propaganda". He's not capable of understanding that the size of the steel beams mean absolutely nothing.
And what were the sizes of the steel beams again? Oh, and while we're at it, how were those beams connected together?
You seem to think the size of beams or how they're connected has relevance, when it does not. Planes don't smoothly glide into steel/concrete buildings.
this is what I've sent to 3 moderators - Andrew Johnson, Ian Neal & John White;
Hi,
there's at least two new posters on this board - thought criminal and CB_Brooklyn coming to mind - who continually insult other posters without any attempts by moderators to censure them.
Considering your 'advice' to me to treat webfairy with respect or not at all on the basis of some very mild sarcasm, I find this current stance exceptionally hypocritical.
Snot
The insults were started by the immature planehuggers, not me. An eye for an eye. You must be sick in the head if you think I started them.
this is what I've sent to 3 moderators - Andrew Johnson, Ian Neal & John White;
Hi,
there's at least two new posters on this board - thought criminal and CB_Brooklyn coming to mind - who continually insult other posters without any attempts by moderators to censure them.
Considering your 'advice' to me to treat webfairy with respect or not at all on the basis of some very mild sarcasm, I find this current stance exceptionally hypocritical.
Snot
The insults were started by the immature planehuggers, not me. An eye for an eye. You must be sick in the head if you think I started them.
Lets finish the Ghandi quote shall we, "An eye for an eye, and the whole world is blind". I can see how you would subscribe to that.
Regardless your first post when you entered this thread was rude, and it went down hill from there. _________________ "Thought is faster than arrows, and truth is sharper than blades." - David Gemmell | RealityDown wiki
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