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Ian Editor
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: BBC Palast article from 2005 - pre 9/11 Iraq oil plans |
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anyone know what's going on here? this story is currently the 2nd most emailed story on the BBC news homepage
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4354269.stm
The Bush administration made plans for war and for Iraq's oil before the 9/11 attacks, sparking a policy battle between neo-cons and Big Oil, BBC's Newsnight has revealed.
Two years ago today - when President George Bush announced US, British and Allied forces would begin to bomb Baghdad - protesters claimed the US had a secret plan for Iraq's oil once Saddam had been conquered.
In fact there were two conflicting plans, setting off a hidden policy war between neo-conservatives at the Pentagon, on one side, versus a combination of "Big Oil" executives and US State Department "pragmatists".
"Big Oil" appears to have won. The latest plan, obtained by Newsnight from the US State Department was, we learned, drafted with the help of American oil industry consultants.
Insiders told Newsnight that planning began "within weeks" of Bush's first taking office in 2001, long before the September 11th attack on the US.
continued... _________________ "The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, 'just to keep people frightened'."
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Well let's post the entire text, without a click and see what opinions are.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4354269.stm
Pssst:
Greg says, as does Newsnight with the help of Mr Falah Aljibury - "once Ronald Reagan's "back-channel" to Saddam", an Iraqi born oil consultant, and Robert Ebel, a former Energy and CIA oil analyst, now a fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, all agree, "Big Oil" appears to have won. Philip Carroll, the former CEO of Shell Oil, said "There was to be no privatisation of Iraqi oil resources or facilities while I was involved."
It wasn't the neocons, Straussian, neo-Marxist-Zionist cabal, it was the oilists.
But in this article, they "appear" to be arguing.
Sleep well x
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The Bush administration made plans for war and for Iraq's oil before the 9/11 attacks, sparking a policy battle between neo-cons and Big Oil, BBC's Newsnight has revealed.
Iraqi-born Falah Aljibury says US Neo-Conservatives planned to force a coup d'etat in Iraq
Two years ago today - when President George Bush announced US, British and Allied forces would begin to bomb Baghdad - protesters claimed the US had a secret plan for Iraq's oil once Saddam had been conquered.
In fact there were two conflicting plans, setting off a hidden policy war between neo-conservatives at the Pentagon, on one side, versus a combination of "Big Oil" executives and US State Department "pragmatists".
"Big Oil" appears to have won. The latest plan, obtained by Newsnight from the US State Department was, we learned, drafted with the help of American oil industry consultants.
Insiders told Newsnight that planning began "within weeks" of Bush's first taking office in 2001, long before the September 11th attack on the US.
We saw an increase in the bombing of oil facilities and pipelines [in Iraq] built on the premise that privatisation is coming
Mr Falah Aljibury
An Iraqi-born oil industry consultant, Falah Aljibury, says he took part in the secret meetings in California, Washington and the Middle East. He described a State Department plan for a forced coup d'etat.
Mr Aljibury himself told Newsnight that he interviewed potential successors to Saddam Hussein on behalf of the Bush administration.
Secret sell-off plan
The industry-favoured plan was pushed aside by a secret plan, drafted just before the invasion in 2003, which called for the sell-off of all of Iraq's oil fields. The new plan was crafted by neo-conservatives intent on using Iraq's oil to destroy the Opec cartel through massive increases in production above Opec quotas.
Former Shell Oil USA chief stalled plans to privatise Iraq's oil industry
The sell-off was given the green light in a secret meeting in London headed by Fadhil Chalabi shortly after the US entered Baghdad, according to Robert Ebel.
Mr Ebel, a former Energy and CIA oil analyst, now a fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, told Newsnight he flew to the London meeting at the request of the State Department.
Mr Aljibury, once Ronald Reagan's "back-channel" to Saddam, claims that plans to sell off Iraq's oil, pushed by the US-installed Governing Council in 2003, helped instigate the insurgency and attacks on US and British occupying forces.
"Insurgents used this, saying, 'Look, you're losing your country, you're losing your resources to a bunch of wealthy billionaires who want to take you over and make your life miserable,'" said Mr Aljibury from his home near San Francisco.
"We saw an increase in the bombing of oil facilities, pipelines, built on the premise that privatisation is coming."
Privatisation blocked by industry
Philip Carroll, the former CEO of Shell Oil USA who took control of Iraq's oil production for the US Government a month after the invasion, stalled the sell-off scheme.
Mr Carroll told us he made it clear to Paul Bremer, the US occupation chief who arrived in Iraq in May 2003, that: "There was to be no privatisation of Iraqi oil resources or facilities while I was involved."
Amy Jaffee says oil companies fear a privatisation would exclude foreign firms Ariel Cohen, of the neo-conservative Heritage Foundation, told Newsnight that an opportunity had been missed to privatise Iraq's oil fields.
He advocated the plan as a means to help the US defeat Opec, and said America should have gone ahead with what he called a "no-brainer" decision.
Mr Carroll hit back, telling Newsnight, "I would agree with that statement. To privatize would be a no-brainer. It would only be thought about by someone with no brain."
New plans, obtained from the State Department by Newsnight and Harper's Magazine under the US Freedom of Information Act, called for creation of a state-owned oil company favoured by the US oil industry. It was completed in January 2004 under the guidance of Amy Jaffe of the James Baker Institute in Texas.
Formerly US Secretary of State, Baker is now an attorney representing Exxon-Mobil and the Saudi Arabian government.
View segments of Iraq oil plans at www.GregPalast.com
Questioned by Newsnight, Ms Jaffe said the oil industry prefers state control of Iraq's oil over a sell-off because it fears a repeat of Russia's energy privatisation. In the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union, US oil companies were barred from bidding for the reserves.
Ms Jaffe says US oil companies are not warm to any plan that would undermine Opec and the current high oil price: "I'm not sure that if I'm the chair of an American company, and you put me on a lie detector test, I would say high oil prices are bad for me or my company."
The former Shell oil boss agrees. In Houston, he told Newsnight: "Many neo conservatives are people who have certain ideological beliefs about markets, about democracy, about this, that and the other. International oil companies, without exception, are very pragmatic commercial organizations. They don't have a theology."
A State Department spokesman told Newsnight they intended "to provide all possibilities to the Oil Ministry of Iraq and advocate none".
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Greg Palast's film - the result of a joint investigation by Newsnight and Harper's Magazine - will be broadcast on Thursday, 17 March, 2005. _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan. |
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Ian Editor
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: clarification |
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Hi Mark
Thanks for posting the entire article. Rather than the detail of the article itself, my main point was that how come it was number 2 on today's BBC most emailed list, nearly 2 years after it was last updated? The article is dated Thursday, 17 March, 2005.
I checked later and it had slipped down to number 4 - at the moment it is number 1.
For those who aren't familiar with what I'm talking about, go to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
and see the MOST POPULAR STORIES NOW section in the right hand column.
I just can't understand how a two year old story could be the most emailed. Perhaps somone has set up a programme to continually email it to bump it up the stats?
Anyhow, something is going on. Also, it doesn't appear in the Most Read section either, and often the two sections correspond quite closely. _________________ "The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, 'just to keep people frightened'."
1984, George Orwell. |
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Ian.
Good question you raise.
I'm familiar with the BBC most emailed, most popular sections so it's a bit of a mystery how a two year old story is suddenly elevated to the front page, especially when there is no main asoosciated story in the headlines.
Maybe there is a concerted effort to get this story to the top, manually or otherwise.
Since the thrust of the article seems to be finger pointing at the oil lobby rather than anyone else, who's interest would promoting this idea serve ? _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan. |
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Greg Palast is a personal hero of mine. One of the last investigative journalists not working to an agenda. |
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The world according Greg, truthseeker.s friend
by The_Skunk _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com |
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