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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: Internet Used to Plan 7/7 Attack Reply with quote

Leak reveals official story of London bombings

· Al-Qaeda not linked, says government


Mark Townsend, crime correspondent
Sunday April 9, 2006
The Observer

The official inquiry into the 7 July London bombings will say the attack was planned on a shoestring budget from information on the internet, that there was no 'fifth-bomber' and no direct support from al-Qaeda, although two of the bombers had visited Pakistan.
The first forensic account of the atrocity that claimed the lives of 52 people, which will be published in the next few weeks, will say that attacks were the product of a 'simple and inexpensive' plot hatched by four British suicide bombers bent on martyrdom.

Far from being the work of an international terror network, as originally suspected, the attack was carried out by four men who had scoured terror sites on the internet. Their knapsack bombs cost only a few hundred pounds, according to the first completed draft of the government's definitive report into the blasts.

The Home Office account, compiled by a senior civil servant at the behest of Home Secretary Charles Clarke, also discounts the existence of a fifth bomber. After the bombings, police found an unused rucksack of explosives in the bombers' abandoned car at Luton station, which led to a manhunt for a missing suspect. Similarly, it found nothing to support the theory that an al-Qaeda fixer, presumed to be from Pakistan, was instrumental in planning the attacks.

A Whitehall source said: 'The London attacks were a modest, simple affair by four seemingly normal men using the internet.'

Confirmation of the nature of the attacks will raise fresh concerns over the vulnerability of Britain to an attack by small, unsophisticated groups. A fortnight after 7 July, an unconnected group of four tried to duplicate the attack, but their devices failed to detonate.

However, the findings will draw criticism for failing to address concerns as to why no action was taken against the bombers despite the fact that one of them, Mohammed Siddique Khan, was identified by intelligence officers months before the attack. A report into the attack by the Commons intelligence and security committee, which could be published alongside the official narrative, will question why MI5 called off surveillance of the ringleader of the 7 July bombings.

Patrick Mercer, shadow homeland security spokesman, said the official narrative's findings would only lead to calls for an independent inquiry to answer further questions surrounding 7 July.

He said: 'A series of reports such as this narrative simply does not answer questions such as the reduced terror alert before the attack, the apparent involvement of al-Qaeda and links to earlier or later terrorist plots.'

The official Home Office report into the attacks does, however, decide that the four suicide bombers - Siddique Khan, Hasib Hussain, Shehzad Tanweer and Jermaine Lindsay - were partly inspired by Khan's trips to Pakistan, though the meeting between the four men and known militants in Pakistan is seen as ideological, rather than fact-finding.

A videotape of Mohammed Siddique Khan released after the attacks also featured footage of Osama bin Laden's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri. The Home Office believes the tape was edited after the suicide attacks and dismisses it as evidence of al-Qaeda's involvement in the attack.

Khan is confirmed as ringleader of the attacks, though the Yorkshire-born bomber's apparent links to other suspected terrorists are not discussed for legal reasons.

The report also investigates the psychological make-up and behaviour of the four bombers during the run-up to the attack. Using intelligence compiled in the nine months since, the account paints a portrait of four British men who in effect led double lives.

It exposes how the quartet adopted an extreme interpretation of Islam, juxtaposed with a willingness to enjoy a 'western' lifestyle - in particular Jermaine Lindsay, the bomber from Berkshire.

According to the report, the attacks were largely motivated by concerns over foreign policy and the perception that it was deliberately anti-Muslim, although the four men were also driven by the promise of immortality.


Or, if you wish:

The policeman said "Mind that hole, that's where the bomb was!'
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A videotape of Mohammed Siddique Khan released after the attacks also featured footage of Osama bin Laden's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri. The Home Office believes the tape was edited after the suicide attacks and dismisses it as evidence of al-Qaeda's involvement in the attack.

I'm looking forward to reading who why and what edited the tape!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thinking aloud:

First we have Cheney's extraordinary 'slip of the tongue' about OBL not being involved with 911. I believe many psychologists would agree that apparent verbal slips reveal the true mind of the speaker.

Now the Observer prints a leak that appears to be undoing any link between 911 and 7/7. If Al-Quaeda were not behind the London bombings, why should we believe 'they' were the guiding hand of 911?

Are we being prepared for a surpise new explanation to both events to sidestep the avalanche that is waiting to slide on to the US and UK governments? Or is Blair planning a bold but risky strategy - to push the blame for 7/7 on to the US military/FBI working in conjunction with home-grown terrorist patsies? . I just wonder if Tony Blair realises the inevitability of 911 Truth coming out, as I fervently believe it will, and is getting ready to play Geoffrey Howe to Bush's Margaret Thatcher.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: whodunnit Reply with quote

well, looks like it was the internet wot dunnit. That pc Blair (speaker of untruths and other dangerous nonsense) is already on record as having voiced his views about "controlling" the internet. Watch this space......
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very strange. It seems like they want to whisk away all the dubious and well-analysed tie-ins to international terrorism and the likes of MI asset Haroon Aswat, and place the blame on independent internet-learning crazed muslims who could be making a bomb factory very near you
Could they really be proposing to release such obvious drivel in a bound volume?
Of course they could
And will people buy it?
Of course they will
However, I agree there are some other agenda items at the end of this trail, as Andrew suggests
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From today's Sunday Times:
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AT LEAST 400 Al-Qaeda terrorist suspects — double the previous estimates — are at large in Britain, according to police and MI5.

Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, director-general of MI5, has said the figure could be as high as 600 if all those thought to have returned from combat training in camps in Pakistan, Afghanistan and elsewhere are included.

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In addition, MI5 has drawn up a “thermal map” of terror hotspots across Britain. The threat is said to be particularly acute in the Manchester area, where police have disclosed that several suspected would-be suicide bombers have been stopped at the airport en route for Iraq.

MI5 has received funds to open offices in Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, Birmingham and Glasgow with others planned for Wales and the southwest.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2125413.html

Seems like some kind of struggle going on between Mi5 and the Home Office.
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Leak reveals official story of London bombings
· Al-Qaeda not linked, says government

or even shades of Meacher's warning:
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Whether the hunt for those behind the London bombers can prevail against these powerful political forces remains to be seen. Indeed it may depend on whether Scotland Yard, in its attempts to uncover the truth, can prevail over MI6, which is trying to cover its tracks and in practice has every opportunity to operate beyond the law under the cover of national security.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AT LEAST 400 Al-Qaeda terrorist suspects — double the previous estimates — are at large in Britain, according to police and MI5.

Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, director-general of MI5, has said the figure could be as high as 600 if all those thought to have returned from combat training in camps in Pakistan, Afghanistan and elsewhere are included.


Well we should obviously send them all back to the States...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps the forthcoming narrative will throw some light on the role of Martin 'Abdullah' McDaid:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/archive/archive/tm_objectid=15752761&method=fu ll&siteid=94762-name_page.html

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Anti-terror squad detectives hunting the leaders behind the London bombs are to examine some of the store's computer files. But our investigation reveals other facts.

The men who ran Iqra - Mohammad Tafazal, army-trained Martin Abdullah McDaid and Naveed Fiaz - allegedly funded the store through grants to the Hamara Youth Centre, which received £589,000 in taxpayers' money made up of a £200,000 capital grant, a £200,000 neighbourhood renewal grant and a £189,000 EU building grant.

The insider, who asked not to be named for fear of reprisals, also says McDaid asked for high-security encryption for their computer systems so it would be hard even for Government agencies to access e-mails.


McDaid was an anti-terrorist trained ex-SBS operative and 'convert' to Islam.

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