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CB_Brooklyn Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: Sophia, 9/11 Mysteries Fabrications and Disinfo |
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http://www.911researchers.com/node/114
Sophia, 9/11 Mysteries Fabrications and Disinfo
Submitted by rick on Sat, 2007-01-27 18:06.
Since I had first seen this DVD I found it disturbing for its’ cover showing a WTC building (not WTC1 2 or 7) completely engulfed in flames, supporting the official story that the hot fires caused the collapse of the towers. The building shown did not collapse and was not "demolished" but the title “Demolition” is featured over this background.
When viewing it at minute 3:22 a man in a Harley hat and t-shirt is portrayed as an eyewitness and featured describing, at the scene for reporters, what would later become the official storyline. "I witnessed both towers collapse, one first and then the second, mostly due to structural failure because the fire was just too intense." Here was an obvious planted disinfo witness used to reinforce the official story. Not identified as such and Sophia glides over it into the film.
But that, at least for me, is not the real problem. The real problem is in what this AKA Monica Smallstorm, AKA Sophia; whose real name is Sofia Shafquat along with Brad Waddell, have done to my 911 Eyewitness footage. The woman has seriously altered and mutilated my original footage and she inappropriately placed parts, edited and mutilated within her disinfo piece without asking permission, paying a royalty or using her normal paperwork she used for rights with other creators. I had no control and she took advantage creating this travesty.
I have not gone through the whole film, as it was not my intention of debunking her work. For that you may go to Screw 9/11 Mysteries
My intention was to see what she had used of my original footage without permission and how it was used. What I found was a nightmare. Following is a list of time codes to find these errors, omissions, distortions, and wideo with altered and overdubbed audio, which twisted the story being told. Instead of telling the truth and let science do the work Sophia has taken my works and twisted them to present a totally different image than what was originally there.
33:50
Shows the first of Rick Siegel’s footage of the North tower
"This video was shot from New Jersey. Smoke rises from the base of the building as an explosion is heard” (Basically this is OK and with original sound from DVD)
34:08
Second time around the same footage but the sound is replaced! Just after the dark filter effect we see the north tower collapse but the sound has been replaced with something completely different. A siren can be heard to distinguish that this is not the original sound. MAJOR DISINFO #1
35:07
Hoboken postage stamp effect "Across the Hudson River Richard Siegel was filming an astonishing day"
35:30
"Here is the south tower record" (shows South tower)
35:33 "Then the building came down" (North tower shown!!!)
This misrepresents the North tower as if it was actually the South tower and the list of pre-collapse explosions caused the building to fall. This clip lists "WTC2 pre-collapse explosions". WTC2
has just previously fallen to the ground and now only WTC1 remains. It will not fall for another 30 minutes, however, the next picture and comment indicate that happened immediately following the pre-collapse explosions listed.
. MAJOR DISINFO #2
35:33 "Then the building came down" the narrator tells us. Meanwhile the North tower segment from a completely different timeframe in the original program, is incorrectly inserted here.
Disinfo:
1. This misrepresents the north tower WTC1, to be the south tower, WTC2.
2. This misrepresents the list of WTC2 pre-collapse explosions as directly responsible for the collapse of WTC1.
3. This misrepresents the time at which the WTC1 collapse occurred because WTC2 time-codes were visible onscreen only seconds earlier.
39:57
US geological survey website Pyroclastic flow segment shows Sophia editing and removed the dissolve between the volcano and the north tower debris chimney, which was designed to emphasize the similarity. Sections were deleted that contained significant evidence.
Thermite section
45:34
"Watch this very bright substance pouring from the south tower" (This is right after the impact occurred not at the time of collapse)
45:39
Filter shot again of smoke between buildings' this time it's used in the thermite section.
"And white smoke appeared at the base of the building. (North tower moments before collapse) Would this be aluminum oxide, the byproduct of a thermite reaction?”
Two problems, she shows the south tower at the 80th floor right after impact and then the north tower right before collapse and edits them back to back with narration that sounds like they are the same building at the same point in time. MAJOR DISINFO #3
1. The south tower's 80th floor impact zone, at approximately 9:00 am, is followed directly by the north tower at approximately 10:30 a.m. showing smoke rising.
2. The narration "and" connects the two with a
continuous line of thought.
3. Continuity with the first time this clip is viewed at 33:50 is destroyed because the rising smoke is attributed to a large explosion in the original content.
4. This creates confusion in the mind of the viewer.
5. The combination of confusion and conflict will make understanding this event very difficult and could be categorized in psychological terms as "disinformation".
6. Usage without approval in a negative way is
unacceptable.
50:50
North tower sequence with multi-screen numbering the explosions
Problem, she cuts it out in the middle and doesn't let it run through.
51:30
Rick Siegel’s footage audio from the north collapse is used underneath various montage shots of different pictures but none from 911 Eyewitness.
This gives the validity to other video with the original sound explosions that would be superimposed in a haphazard manner over those other videos. Sophia proceeded with no knowledge of time code or effort at making a legitimate documentation of the explosions; it was done to make a Hollywood effect to further an agenda of more explosions than were.
All in all these 3 major errors with the additional omissions, edits and misrepresentations by Sophia and 911 Mysteries are misinformation at best and are most likely, considering the need for physical editing of the sound over the destruction sequences, on purpose and therefore disinformation. Worse is this is just what I see as I look at what Sophia has done to my original footage. What about the rest of the hour plus of other peoples footage she has done this too?
The reason I want control of my work is to keep such trash from happening. To be placed in this disinformation video in such a way twists the meaning of the original work and now it has been corrupted, changed, and mutilated where it is no longer representative of that day. I can’t imagine what this “fertile mind” in Sophia has done to other evidence as she edits, over dubs and twists the content to as she said on “The Edge AM” radio recently “911 Mysteries takes the myth by its tail and swings it around right next, to make it fit right next to the science". Whatever twists, swings or smashing it needs apparently.
Since October I have told Sophia to cease and desist and she continues to manufacture and sell these distortions of my work. I asked her to stop, pull my stuff and she has hired a lawyer to keep her stolen, mutilated disinfo piece in tact. Money means too much to her even after aledgedly making almost half a million on this mutilation.
The story will continue as will the obvious need for a full debunking of this disinfo piece.
Related Articles:
Sophia 911 Mysteries Hires Lawyers to Steal More From 911eyewitness
http://www.ricksiegel.com/web/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=147
Screw 9/11 Mysteries
http://thedoc911.blogspot.com/
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IronSnot Relentless Limpet Shill
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Although there might be some substance to his accusations it sounds more like sourgrapes somewhat.
911 Mysteries is put out by Sofia Shafquat & Brad Waddell. This info is not hard to find, Rick if you're watching.
(I see from that edit that you are -Mods - maybe there should be a time limit on edits?)
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Fallious Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Yup, sounds like sour grapes. The issues raised with the film, other than the 'stealing' of eyewitness footage is pathetic. If the eyewitness creators feel hard done on the editing of their footage then they should have the sense to keep that debate private as the publicity of this disagreement - specially in such an emotive way, is not going to help anything.
It also doesn't help their case that an exposed shill saw fit to post this article here. _________________ "Thought is faster than arrows, and truth is sharper than blades." - David Gemmell | RealityDown wiki |
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Dogsmilk Mighty Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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I particularly like the way the 'related articles' bit links to the new JREF member produced 'Screw 911 Mysteries' blogspot. The reffers are very rude about Mr Siegel, too. As for what they have to say about NPT... _________________ It's a man's life in MOSSAD |
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Headhunter Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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I think CB_Brooklyn is a goof, for even posting that here. Pathetic. _________________ Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:40 am Post subject: |
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CB
As you well know this discussion is controversial. Therefore it belongs in the 9/11 controversies section. Please respect this. Thanks |
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CB_Brooklyn Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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ian neal wrote: | CB
As you well know this discussion is controversial. Therefore it belongs in the 9/11 controversies section. Please respect this. Thanks |
Sorry but I see no controversy. 9/11 Mysteries contains doctored footage of 9/1 Eyewitness. |
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telecasterisation Banned
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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I would also add that whilst the Harley hat wearer may indeed have been a 'plant' - we must bear in mind that on the day of 9/11, the people present (and to a greater extent, the rest of the world), would have put the collapse firmly at the feet of 'impact + fire' being the cause of said collapse.
If I had been interviewed there on the day and had seen the buildings collapse, I too would undeniably cited structural failure as the reason the lot came down. Perhaps the guy was simply stating his opinion, perhaps otherwise - whichever, in hindsight, yes it looks suspicious, but being that close chronologically to the event, it is a fair and reasonable comment to be made on the day. _________________ I completely challenge the official version of events - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC -I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC |
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CB_Brooklyn Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Rick updated his article.
I replaced the text above with the new article. (See the web link for the original formatting.) |
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Headhunter Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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So now the no planers are wanting to debunk 9/11 Mysteries eh? Figures.
Sophie may have made a couple errors. I don't think there's anything "sinister" about it. _________________ Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
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CB_Brooklyn Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Headhunter wrote: | So now the no planers are wanting to debunk 9/11 Mysteries eh? Figures.
Sophie may have made a couple errors. I don't think there's anything "sinister" about it. |
you're a brainwashed fool |
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alwun Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: give her some slack? |
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A couple of errors, I hear.
There are errors and also mistakes. The degree to which the footage shot by the author has been tampered with, however, indicates the possibility that the manipulations are deliberate, and therefore must be underpinned by an agenda which concerns something other than the provision of an authentic and truthful record of 911.
Rick Siegel, who is actually doing the complaining above, shot the footage and released it initially in full. It does not require that the soundtrack be adjusted to suit an editor's 'vision'.
How can you do that in error, anyway? I mean -
"Here's the WTC collapse folks, but I've set it to a soundtrack which I'm sure you'll prefer - just like I did. And changed the order of events a little, but only to provide a little drama....."
Or maybe, as you say, Headhunter, just one or a couple of those careless errors which happen by.
Get real.
cheers Al.. |
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Zabooka Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Look, heres whats the problem.
There is a SERIOUS lack of UNITY and communication within the 911 Truth Movement.
There should be a Board of People who certify whether or not any new 911 Documentaries are fit to certified 911 Truth Works. You know, QUALITY CONTROL!
Plus... why do not all these Documentary Makers Work together, or atleast talk to one another. Especially in this case of 911 Mysteries makers talking to 911 Eyewitness Makers? Also was there any communication with makers of Painful Deceptions? |
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StopThe9/11CoverUp Minor Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: The big 4 should complain if they feel compelled to. |
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May I just say that without the following 4 programs:
9/11 Eyewitness
Loose Change
In Plane Site
The Great Deception, the 9/11 News Special you Never Saw
Many of us would not be at this forum today! Apart from a few theories in Loose change these programs introduced us to the main points of the facts, ie: Explosions, WTC7, Government Knowledge prior to the attacks.
Bearing this in mind, if Rick feels as though someone has edited his footage in a way that Rick feels is detrimental to the movement then as far as I am concerned he can air his views about these things and should not be referred to as suffering from sour grapes.
You guys honestly think he has sour grapes that someone has used his footage in what some of you say is a better program than Eyewitness? Give me a break guys, he is one of the pillars of the movement, one of the main alarms that started waking people up to all this.
His program is an extremely important one in the movement, his evidence should remain as it was when WE first viewed it. Now I know a lot of people have made or are making their own program, but please be aware that different people have different overall views about 9/11, and not all along the same lines as rick. If 4 programs show that events happened in a particular order (as all 4 above programs do, and in the same order) then it will definitely NOT be good for the movement if someone is changing the core evidence of the most clearest points that we fight to prove.
9/11 Eyewitness woke me and my wife up to the cover up, and if Rick feels mysteries is not good for the movement then I agree.
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Ade. People should think carefully about the definition of "Eyewitness"
Rick points out that his is one of a small number of films - possibly the only one - which has not been in the hands of mainstream media.
He was there on the day. Most of us weren't. _________________ Andrew
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telecasterisation wrote: | being that close chronologically to the event, it is a fair and reasonable comment to be made on the day. |
That's your funniest one yet tc. I nearly had coffee coming down my nose when I read that!
If I had been asked on the day and at that time I wouldn't just have pointed out the structural failure and intensity of the fire I would have mentioned Osama Bin Laden as the obvious culprit, emphasised the need to give Bush total support for a "war on terror" and urged the country to invade Iraq. |
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telecasterisation Banned
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blackcat wrote: | telecasterisation wrote: | being that close chronologically to the event, it is a fair and reasonable comment to be made on the day. |
That's your funniest one yet tc. I nearly had coffee coming down my nose when I read that!
If I had been asked on the day and at that time I wouldn't just have pointed out the structural failure and intensity of the fire I would have mentioned Osama Bin Laden as the obvious culprit, emphasised the need to give Bush total support for a "war on terror" and urged the country to invade Iraq. |
Can you elaborate on exactly why this wasn't a reasonable comment given what had transpired? Who was in possession of a more positive explanation at that time given what the world had just witnessed?
I don't drink coffee. _________________ I completely challenge the official version of events - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC -I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC |
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Dogsmilk Mighty Poster
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Blackcat has a point, TC; I think If I'd been there on the day I reckon I would have said something like -
"And then the towers came down...I don't know what the f*ck happened..."
The news reports on the day generally expressed shock and bewilderment - unless this guy was some kind of roving know-it-all structural engineer, it's an odd thing for joe public in the face of such calamity to be coming out with.
Mind you, I drink too much coffee. _________________ It's a man's life in MOSSAD |
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telecasterisation Banned
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Actually, Blackcat didn't make a point - I am asking what her point is?
I clearly remember on the day of 9/11, the people watching the events with me talked about what had happened after the first tower collapsed. One of the questions was why it came down? The general thought being a combination of the fire and the impact of the plane.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with knowledge of structural engineering, the towers collapsed post-trauma - it was the most logical assumption at that time.
To reiterate, if I was quizzed on the most likely reason the towers collapsed on the day, it is exactly what I would have said.
There was no Truth Movement, people weren't researching the ability of said towers to withstand impacts from jet airliners - the towers appeared to be on fire so can anyone elaborate on why - on the day itself - this wasn't a reasonable view given what we knew at that time, which was nothing other than planes hit the towers?? _________________ I completely challenge the official version of events - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC -I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC |
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marky 54 Mega Poster
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on the day itself i did question how the towers fell due to fire and impacts, but only because a large portion below was unaffected and it collapsed to ground level. its was unexplainable which left me open to properganda being spilled out of each tv around the world.
i felt there was something wrong but agree after it being suggested on the air waves that it could of been fire and impact damage it was logical to believe at the time, but only because inside job wasnt a thought entering 99% of peoples minds at the time. |
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IronSnot Relentless Limpet Shill
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telecasterisation wrote: | To reiterate, if I was quizzed on the most likely reason the towers collapsed on the day, it is exactly what I would have said.
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Just as well you wern't then. |
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thought criminal Moderate Poster
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Yep, it appears that 9/11 Mysteries is blatant disinformation. I have also noticed that Brad Waddell has had numerous on-line conversations with 'The Doc' who is the creator of 'Screw 9/11 Mysteries'. This is evident from the 'Screw 9/11 Mysteries' thread at JREF. This was a documentary that was made to hurt the Truth Movement badly by initially drumming up support by producing manipulated 'evidence' and consciously leaving it wide open for later condemnation.
The Truth Movement needs to distance itself from this 'well poisoining' artefact by supporting Rick Siegel wholeheartedly in his very valid claims and concerns. |
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IronSnot wrote: | telecasterisation wrote: | To reiterate, if I was quizzed on the most likely reason the towers collapsed on the day, it is exactly what I would have said.
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Just as well you wern't then. |
No-one has supplied any pertinent counter to say why stating the buildings collapsed due to structural failure was inappropriate, just ongoing rhetoric and dissention.
As far as the world was concerned, both WTC towers collapsed, their structures failed = structural failure. They had been hit by jet airliners and bathed in burning aviation fuel - perfectly reasonable asumption at that time, on the day in question. _________________ I completely challenge the official version of events - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC -I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC |
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thought criminal Moderate Poster
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telecasterisation wrote: | IronSnot wrote: | telecasterisation wrote: | To reiterate, if I was quizzed on the most likely reason the towers collapsed on the day, it is exactly what I would have said.
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Just as well you wern't then. |
No-one has supplied any pertinent counter to say why stating the buildings collapsed due to structural failure was inappropriate, just ongoing rhetoric and dissention.
As far as the world was concerned, both WTC towers collapsed, their structures failed = structural failure. They had been hit by jet airliners and bathed in burning aviation fuel - perfectly reasonable asumption at that time, on the day in question. |
The vocal delivery of that 'plant' in 9/11 Mysteries is completely rehearsed. The fact that it is included in the documentery in the first place without comment points to disinfo tactics of the film's producers. |
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Fallious Moderate Poster
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thought criminal wrote: | telecasterisation wrote: | IronSnot wrote: | telecasterisation wrote: | To reiterate, if I was quizzed on the most likely reason the towers collapsed on the day, it is exactly what I would have said.
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Just as well you wern't then. |
No-one has supplied any pertinent counter to say why stating the buildings collapsed due to structural failure was inappropriate, just ongoing rhetoric and dissention.
As far as the world was concerned, both WTC towers collapsed, their structures failed = structural failure. They had been hit by jet airliners and bathed in burning aviation fuel - perfectly reasonable asumption at that time, on the day in question. |
The vocal delivery of that 'plant' in 9/11 Mysteries is completely rehearsed. The fact that it is included in the documentery in the first place without comment points to disinfo tactics of the film's producers. |
I agree, this guy smells a lot of one of those agents, placed to watch over public and steer the general reaction after the event. However to say hes "included without comment" is absurd - I remember his appearance is proceeded by the qualifier (i paraphrase) "the official story of 9/11 was soon born" cut to this guy sounding extremely rehersed and odd.
It's clearly the intention of the film to highlight this characters strange reaction and seeming clairvoyance. To get people thinking about HOW that official story became the general consensus so quickly. _________________ "Thought is faster than arrows, and truth is sharper than blades." - David Gemmell | RealityDown wiki |
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