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Headhunter Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:12 am Post subject: |
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CB_Brooklyn wrote: | If a plane would make a hole like that, it would have encountered resistance. In that case, the plane wouldn't glide into the building. It would show signs of bending/crushing/twisting etc. Also the fuel-filled wings and engines would have exploded on impact. The aluminum wouldn't meld into steel/concrete. Look into Sir Isaac Newton and his Laws of Motion. It's basic physical laws that cannot be broken. Only in computer animation could something like that happen.
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How convincing. Did you get that from Morgan Reynods "Izzy/malaprop"?
It's amazing how much damage only about 20 of you on the global Internet can wreck, eh?
Keep up the good work.. _________________ Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
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CB_Brooklyn Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Headhunter wrote: |
How convincing. Did you get that from Morgan Reynods "Izzy/malaprop"?
It's amazing how much damage only about 20 of you on the global Internet can wreck, eh?
Keep up the good work.. |
You really are a rude person. I post scientific analysis and you attack with childish nonsense. Typical truthling behavior. And I'm not Izzy/malaprop.
And, yes, it is convincing, for those who have a brain and can apply physics. Are you saying you do not? |
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marky 54 Mega Poster
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:47 am Post subject: |
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right so now you've proved a bird can put a hole in a areoplane and i would consider a bird a lots less toughier than an aircraft, so if it was'nt a plane that coursed that hole in the building what did? |
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CB_Brooklyn Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:10 am Post subject: |
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marky 54 wrote: | right so now you've proved a bird can put a hole in a areoplane and i would consider a bird a lots less toughier than an aircraft, so if it was'nt a plane that coursed that hole in the building what did? |
Some type of explosive. |
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Headhunter Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:09 am Post subject: |
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Didn't you see the closeup of the birds FEET?!! That wasn't just ANY bird! That he was killed in the process is what's truly amazing, since I was under the impression that he's indestructible. _________________ Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
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Fallious Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Headhunter wrote: | Didn't you see the closeup of the birds FEET?!! That wasn't just ANY bird! That he was killed in the process is what's truly amazing, since I was under the impression that he's indestructible. |
CB_Brooklyn, do you see how the stuff you posted above, particularly the roadrunner outline in the twin towers is extremely thoughtless and insulting to those affected by the attacks? _________________ "Thought is faster than arrows, and truth is sharper than blades." - David Gemmell | RealityDown wiki |
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Woodee Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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CB_Brooklyn wrote: | marky 54 wrote: | right so now you've proved a bird can put a hole in a areoplane and i would consider a bird a lots less toughier than an aircraft, so if it was'nt a plane that coursed that hole in the building what did? |
Some type of explosive. |
that made some of the steel/outer coating look inward into the hole? Explosions normally go outwards?
I posed this question to someone else before, without no answer....
Holograms are mear projections right? Based on light correct? So how in the hell can a hologram project into a bright blue sky and still look solid? Is there some alien technology that I am unaware of that make a "light object" look solid? _________________
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Bushwacker Relentless Limpet Shill
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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CB_Brooklyn wrote: |
If a plane would make a hole like that, it would have encountered resistance. In that case, the plane wouldn't glide into the building. It would show signs of bending/crushing/twisting etc. |
Right, you mean like this:
_________________ ".......some partial collapse [of WTC7] would not have been suspicious......." - chek |
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Fallious Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Right. Except I think he means the planes. How exactly he would have any chance to examine twisting and bending in an aircraft travelling at over 130 metres per second I don't know.. but bless him, he wants to try! _________________ "Thought is faster than arrows, and truth is sharper than blades." - David Gemmell | RealityDown wiki |
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CB_Brooklyn Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: |
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Fallious wrote: | Headhunter wrote: | Didn't you see the closeup of the birds FEET?!! That wasn't just ANY bird! That he was killed in the process is what's truly amazing, since I was under the impression that he's indestructible. |
CB_Brooklyn, do you see how the stuff you posted above, particularly the roadrunner outline in the twin towers is extremely thoughtless and insulting to those affected by the attacks? |
I posted that to help explain Physical Laws. No 9/11 newbie would find it any more insulting than anything else being discussed here. The problem is, the truth movement has been brainwashed by the 9/11 perps into finding it insulting themselves. |
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CB_Brooklyn Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Woodee wrote: | CB_Brooklyn wrote: | marky 54 wrote: | right so now you've proved a bird can put a hole in a areoplane and i would consider a bird a lots less toughier than an aircraft, so if it was'nt a plane that coursed that hole in the building what did? |
Some type of explosive. |
that made some of the steel/outer coating look inward into the hole? Explosions normally go outwards?
I posed this question to someone else before, without no answer....
Holograms are mear projections right? Based on light correct? So how in the hell can a hologram project into a bright blue sky and still look solid? Is there some alien technology that I am unaware of that make a "light object" look solid? |
It's certainly possible that some photos were manipulated or "corrected" by the perps. I read of evidence for that somewhere but don't remember offhand.
We don't believe anymore that holograms were used. But it's possible that Virtual / Augmented Reality was....
http://911cgiwatch.blogspot.com/2006/07/total-immersions-augmented-rea lity.html
It's also possible a real plane headed for the South Tower and veered off:
http://www.nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=plane_trick_wtc 2
There is evidence of a third plane, which could possible have been the plane in question after veering. See this PDF:
http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Journal_4_Jet.pdf |
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CB_Brooklyn Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Bushwacker wrote: | CB_Brooklyn wrote: |
If a plane would make a hole like that, it would have encountered resistance. In that case, the plane wouldn't glide into the building. It would show signs of bending/crushing/twisting etc. |
Right, you mean like this:
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There's no sign of airplane parts in that hole. |
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Headhunter Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: |
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How do you explain that hole though Mr. no planer? _________________ Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
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Fallious Moderate Poster
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 762
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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CB_Brooklyn wrote: | Fallious wrote: | Headhunter wrote: | Didn't you see the closeup of the birds FEET?!! That wasn't just ANY bird! That he was killed in the process is what's truly amazing, since I was under the impression that he's indestructible. |
CB_Brooklyn, do you see how the stuff you posted above, particularly the roadrunner outline in the twin towers is extremely thoughtless and insulting to those affected by the attacks? |
I posted that to help explain Physical Laws. No 9/11 newbie would find it any more insulting than anything else being discussed here. The problem is, the truth movement has been brainwashed by the 9/11 perps into finding it insulting themselves. |
The only aspect of 9/11 truth that I find insulting, is the foul artwork thats routinely pumped out and posted willy nilly by NPT inc. _________________ "Thought is faster than arrows, and truth is sharper than blades." - David Gemmell | RealityDown wiki |
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CB_Brooklyn Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Headhunter wrote: | How do you explain that hole though Mr. no planer? |
That was explained (by me) at least two times and I'm not gonna repeat. Okay Mr Planehugger? |
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CB_Brooklyn Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:19 am Post subject: |
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Fallious wrote: | CB_Brooklyn wrote: | Fallious wrote: | Headhunter wrote: | Didn't you see the closeup of the birds FEET?!! That wasn't just ANY bird! That he was killed in the process is what's truly amazing, since I was under the impression that he's indestructible. |
CB_Brooklyn, do you see how the stuff you posted above, particularly the roadrunner outline in the twin towers is extremely thoughtless and insulting to those affected by the attacks? |
I posted that to help explain Physical Laws. No 9/11 newbie would find it any more insulting than anything else being discussed here. The problem is, the truth movement has been brainwashed by the 9/11 perps into finding it insulting themselves. |
The only aspect of 9/11 truth that I find insulting, is the foul artwork thats routinely pumped out and posted willy nilly by NPT inc. |
It's too bad (and unfortunate for the Truth) that you consider pictures that help others understand the physics behind 9/11, insulting. |
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Fallious Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: |
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CB_Brooklyn wrote: |
It's too bad (and unfortunate for the Truth) that you consider pictures that help others understand the physics behind 9/11, insulting. |
Remind me how a giant roadrunner shaped hole in the WTC helps explain the physics of aeroplane crash. _________________ "Thought is faster than arrows, and truth is sharper than blades." - David Gemmell | RealityDown wiki |
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Fallious Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Fallious wrote: | CB_Brooklyn wrote: |
It's too bad (and unfortunate for the Truth) that you consider pictures that help others understand the physics behind 9/11, insulting. |
Remind me how a giant roadrunner shaped hole in the WTC helps explain the physics of aeroplane crash. |
One week later, still waiting for an answer, CB Brooklyn. _________________ "Thought is faster than arrows, and truth is sharper than blades." - David Gemmell | RealityDown wiki |
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Headhunter Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: |
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I think he point is that the impact holes are a "cartoon cutout" shaped like a plane, in order to trick us into thinking that a plane impacted there, when, according to him, and a mere handful of other deluded no planers, the plane SHOULD have hit up against the side of the building, and been smashed into a million pieces, to fall down the side of the building, with the area of impact remaining largely intact. That's about it, as far as I understand it.. _________________ Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
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telecasterisation Banned
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:22 am Post subject: |
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The question of whether or not either of the WTC aircraft could physically enter the buildings as suggested by the video footage has long since been debated. Challenges are laid down, supply the physics, supply supporting figures, which is then done. This 'evidence' is then sneered at and in response we are fed images of a splattered roadrunner.
One very interesting occasional inclusion in these debates are the photographs of aircraft damage caused by birds. If you actually stop for just a moment and think what this represents - a fragile organic structure tears a nasty gash in the outer structure (mostly the wings) of an aircraft simply by hitting it when the plane is airborne.
This raises a very difficult aspect to deal with for those who claim that the 9/11 aircraft did not have the ability to 'glide into the buildings'. If the simple, compartively weak structure of a bird can rip open the tough outer skin of an aircraft, then what can a 100+ tons travelling at great speed do when it hits something?
You will also notice the way we manipulate and alter our terminology to suit a particular argument. The word 'glide' is often added to describe the way the planes 'entered', but of course there was no 'gliding' taking place at all. To suggest the aircraft 'glided in' adds a very smooth and comfortable element to the entire process when in fact, the aircraft were being driven by powerful jet engines, moving them along at in excess of 500mph, they then literally smashed their way through all exterior building resistence, getting ripped to countless shards in the process.
The point here is this;
Consider a bird hitting the wing of an aircraft. Does it hit and bounce off? Does it hit and get pulverized? We have countless photos to say otherwise - it hits and a large hole is left, the wing nearly torn from its mounting. This is undeniable, yet when solid and researched figures are provided to support the facts on the day that large jet airliners did what they did (enter as shown, not bring down the buildings), this is poo-pooed.
We accept a lil' bird can virtually tear wings off, yet a boeing passenger jet has zero chance of punching through the side of a building? I find this all highly contradictory. _________________ I completely challenge the official version of events - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC -I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC |
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Headhunter Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Good point.
Looked like he was trying to show, with the close-up of the birds feet hanging down, that the bird in question was in fact, the Roadrunner!
When one also looks at light debris impacts from Tornado winds (not as fast as the S Tower plane), you can see that the amount of intertia involved would be sufficient to penetrate the building. Somewhere out there is an image of a piece of straw having impaled a telephone poll, and I offered that one of the shard of wood sticking into a granite wall. What is the windspeed in a tornado btw? Compare that to a Boeing 767 moving at 575MPH. Frame by frame analysis has also shown decelleration through impact. Prof Jones did some work on this when debunking Reynolds on the NPT. _________________ Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
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