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prole art threat
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 Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:23 am Post subject: The day I discovered the horrific truth. |
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It was last Summer and a neighbour of mine handed me a dvd he thought I would be interested in. He said to me" Have a look at this, it's saying there was a missile fired at one of the twin towers".
I basically put it on straight way and within 2 minutes, the revelatory moment shot through my heart and solar plexus at the speed of a missile itself. The dvd was 'Loose Change'. I actually remember making a conscious choice, either 'pretend' it wasnt so, (I was actually concerned how this shocking revelation might change me) or just bite the bullet and go with it. I chose the latter and lay down on my bed for a moment, silently realising this world, or at least my perception of the world, would never ever be the same again.
It is maybe the same choice eveybody has to make and thinking about it, it is the people who have yet to make that leap and have been stalled by the fear of the unknown and the unwillingness to give up the security of their comfort zone.
When and how was the veil lifted for you good people? |
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Andrew Johnson
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| Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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This is a good question!
There are many paths and ways of getting into that "new state of consciousness".
I was basically awoken to a larger reality following research into Dr Steven Greer's disclosure project. This lead me to an article in Nexus magazine which mentioned State-Sponsored Terrorism. Sometime after that, I came across George Humphrey's excellent "9-11: The Great Illusion" which, for the 1st time, showed me clearly how the towers must've been demolished with explosives - because of the Law of Falling Bodies. I then worked out my own version of this analysis ( http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/TwinTowersandGravity.htm ) and began to realise that all the other threads I was following were leading into the "same ball of wool".
One of the key factors seems to be whether people are naturally curious and like to ask questions, or whether they like being spoon fed things. And also, do people feel safe looking at topics outside their own field of work or expertise and analysing them in detail. Are they happy to challenge authority when they have sufficient grounds and evidence for doing so?
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andrewwatson
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How do we feel about people who have heard the 'gospel' but still don't believe?
I'll rephrase that to make it sound less evangelical religious.
There are folk who have sat through Loose Change and seen the WTC7 clips and STILL say ''there's no firm evidence''. I know one very well indeed as I share my life with him. Now if its on the front page of the Guardian - that's different. The magic of print! |
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planetfrog
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| Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| andrewwatson wrote: | How do we feel about people who have heard the 'gospel' but still don't believe?
I'll rephrase that to make it sound less evangelical religious.
There are folk who have sat through Loose Change and seen the WTC7 clips and STILL say ''there's no firm evidence''. I know one very well indeed as I share my life with him. Now if its on the front page of the Guardian - that's different. The magic of print! |
"The hottest fires in hell are reserved for those who remain neutral in a time of moral crisis" E Burke.
A few disjointed thoughts in response....
..Agreed, I think when the "penny drops" it has so much to do with the individual in question being prepared to open themselves up to the horrific possibility of accepting a kind reality they've been specifically conditioned to reject, and fear identifying with. There's something kind of spooky about those who've "heard the gospel but still dont believe". I think there's often a kind of rabbit in the headlights look in their faces. Definitely I'm getting the feeling like I'm witnessing people in a kind of hypnotised state, but I still dont feel like I've fully understood it.
When I think about my own processes from being skeptical to the reverse this is whats true for me. In my gut I've been saying one thing but my head's been living in fear of the consequences of accepting it.
With respect to your Guardian example, equally it's odd how Steven Jones can be completely overlooked, whilst Sheen really will turn heads.
Sometimes I think they are only waiting for everyone else to be in agreement, before they'd dare assert their most honest feelings on 911.
Such is the fear of being "different", and a testament to the level of social control for the times we live in.
Like you Andrew, I live with someone to whom I have been banging on about 911 for almost exactly a year now, and her position has indeed moved very steadily, but from being relatively skeptical to just being "inconclusive". Maybe she feels internally that she couldnt cope going that extra step. People are so conditioned by the system that they actually become part of it and parrot it out to themselves and others. If the "system" were to suffer should the truth of 911 be exposed, somehow deep down they sense they might too - because they identify with the system beyond their ability to even necessarily consciously recognise it. Shifting paradigm means a loss of that ( ultimately illusionary ) sense of identification - a terrifying prospect for many.
Alternatively I bumped into a friend last wednesday, he was a complete novice on the 911 thing, and had a half hour chat with him and went over the basics and he was in total disbelief - thought I was kidding. I caught up last night with him, and the guy has just grabbed the ball and run with it. He's been up for the past 3 days umbilically connected to the net, and he's totally flipping out. He nearly freaked out with a couple of friends last night when he realised they couldnt see what he was seeing ( re controlled demolition) ... leaping off the couch / hands in the air..... it was hilarious. Suddenly my mates had to cope with there being two of me in the room.  Immensely satisfying!
My dad on the other hand, gives me a humouring smile and says he's more interested in 18th Century History...... ( wtf??? )
It amazes me how different people can digest the same information and have such an amazing spectrum of extremes in response to the info, both in the ability to digest it, and the time taken to do so.
In many ways experiencing this kind of social/cognitive dissonance cost me my relationship with my fiance. I guess we have to press on regardless, and not take it personally as I've learned.
I think alot of ( everything ) whats going on here for all concerned has to do with our sense of how we identity with the information we are being presented with.
Infact its got less to do necessarily with even the nature of the information but the nature of the observer themselves.
Sorry for the rant - my 5 pence on thursday night! I'll shut up now 
Peace!
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alwun
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@ xfrog,
Like you I underwent something of a temporary estrangement from my nearest and dearest. The realization of the 911 truth and scale of that crime was tempered however, by a sense of distance and difference between myself and that incredible event of destruction. Not so, though, when London went up. I waited for the video footage from Kx to appear. I even had several people claim to have seen the video footage before even the photoshop shot appeared. I was forced to face the tremendous effect and influence that the blatantly biased msm was able to visit upon the vast majority of the inhabitants of our damp little island. When the photoshop shot appeared, I began then to feel alarmingly isolated, given that I seemed to be the only one who appeared disturbed by the paucity and nonsensical quality of the 'evidence' Plus the embarrasingly striking parallels with 911.
For the best part of the following week I found myself repeatedly doing something I thought I had long since lost the knack for: accosting people politely in the street and so on,and asking them what they thought of it all. I don't recall one reply suggesting doubt about the guilt of the accused, or that a respondent had considered other possibilities outside the media-driven narrative. I could not help but be reminded of the phrase 'lynch-mob mentality', nor that I seemed to be surrounded by a complete population of utterly unlike-me minded souls.
It took a little while for me to regain mundane equilibrium, cleaning the drive here, pruning the trees and getting on with things.
Although I find myself still even now having to frequently readjust my perceptions of our disturbing reality, I feel much less isolated.
good luck!
cheers
Al |
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