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spiv Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:35 am Post subject: William Rodriguez's tour number one on David Cameron's site |
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Just to let you know that as of today, the question I posed David Cameron following William's talk at Totnes on Sunday evening is number one on David Cameron's website.
You may like to take a look and help keep it at the top spot.
http://www.webcameron.org.uk/ask-david
The question is entitled "Why do you consider the 911 report accurate??" |
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flamesong Major Poster
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 1305 Location: okulo news
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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For some reason I cannot fathom, the webcameron link doesn't work (at least on my browsers) without the last '/' unlike most web addresses with default pages, i.e.
http://www.webcameron.org.uk/ask-david/ |
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scubadiver Validated Poster
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 1850 Location: Currently Andover
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Koz wrote the following on the first page
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"And the lobby was blown out by a fireball coming down the elevator shaft when the jet fuel exploded. Even the firemen on site say that this is what caused lobby fires. Do some research " |
yet noone has commented on it. We know (I think) that the only elevator shaft to go from top to bottom was the freight shaft (or is Koz going to debunk it?)
I remember seeing a diagram of the elevators somewhere but can't find it. |
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spiv Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: I thought I had.. |
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Scuba, I thought I had commented on it. In fact, William Rodriguez on Sunday evening referred to it, he said that (and it is a quite obvious point were Kos and co to just stop and think) the lifts were jammed and he felt powerless because he could hear the trapped people screaming in them. So the lift shafts were not empty, they had (believe it or not) lifts in them!!
He made no mention of any fireballs, although perhaps someone who hears William's excellent talk this week could ask him that direct question??
I'm hoping that we can get William to contribute to the thread on David Cameron's website this week. I've PM'd Annie, although I'm not sure when she will be next logging on to this site. It will be gone by next Sunday evening, unless it is in the top five. |
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scubadiver Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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I saw that bit.
Its just that the chance of fuel getting down to the lobby is zero even if the shafts weren't sealed purely because of the design.
Just an added point. |
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spiv Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:26 pm Post subject: I agree.. |
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Scuba, one thing which did come over to me, and I have no idea why I had personally not fully comprehended before, was my impression of the size of these buildings. Now I've never been to New York so have only ever just seen pictures of these things. William Rodriguez told us these buildings were like 'cities within the city', absolutely immense. So in comparison, the fuel contained within the wings of the aircraft, which were themselves dwarfed by the buildings, would have amounted to a relative few drops!!!
I actually asked him just how could explosives have been placed within the buildings without people seeing it. He told me that this could have been easily done, there were maintenance trucks and people accessing the buildings all the time, and no-one would have taken much notice. For example, whenever a tenant left, whole floor interiors would have just been stripped out, waiting for new tenants, and then these whole floors would have been rebuilt to the new tenant's design.
It really was an incredible talk, and I would encourage everyone to get to hear him near you during this month. An amazing bloke, and I felt full of admiration for him. He is not fearful or intimidated, he is strong and fighting for the victims of 911, and makes it quite clear that 911 needs a full, independent, thorough inquiry to ascertain the real perpetrators.
His emotions bubble to the surface when he talks about the victims, those screaming souls trapped in the lifts, those bodies on the pavement who jumped or fell, even one woman who he helped get out of the building, and who he subsequently found sliced in half by a falling pane of glass. One cannot help but be so moved and so angered that there is no way we can let these criminals get away with this atrocity. |
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scubadiver Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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WTC employed 20,000 people or some such thing and they were BIG.
Because of the surrounding buildings it is difficult to get an accurate impression of how big they really were.
I went to see WR in London in December so I know what to expect. |
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Ichabod Crane Minor Poster
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Good work Spivvers. And yes, the man has a beautiful heart. I shall be catching him when he comes to Plymouth. I was going to see him at Exeter, but things came up, and Plymouth is closer to me... |
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