Apparently, 2 in kidnap plot released without charge!!!

[scubadiver]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6337335.stm

[jason67]

The only thing that surprises me about this is the fact that the bbc reported it.
I know this has been asked before but does anybody have any figures of people arrested, then let go without charge since 911?

And what about 911 itself? How many people have been charged with that?

[mark_e]

I wonder how long this will stay as the main headline on the bbc site. the 'Brown Calls For Formation of New World Order' was top news for about 45 minutes, before being replaced by something else such as Jade Goody.

Maybe something big is scheduled for today, has that vet got bird flu?

[spiv]

Jason, you were surprised as well, thought it was just me. When I saw the BBC news this morning, my eyebrows touched the ceiling the same time as my jaw touched the floor, as it was the lead item!!

Normally the release of suspects is buried deep within the news, if it is mentioned at all. Very odd.

[Mark Gobell]

[THETRUTHWILLSETU3]

When they were arrested we were told the police and security services had spent several months gathering evidence sufficient to arrest them.

And yet again they are arrested and released without charges which means they have no evidence.

Gareth Pierce was acting for the Mid Atlantic blowing up planes farce - are we to assume he will be representing all future Moslems arrested on terrorist charges ----- Is he a gatekeeper? ----- why is he not saying that this is all fake terror?

[spiv]

Gareth Peirce is a woman, and is one of the finest Human Rights lawyers who has acted on behalf of many persons who have been the subject of police "roundups", such as we have here with this fictional "war on terror".

Although it is dramatised, watch the film "In the Name of the Father", about her successful defence in getting the "Guildford Four" released who had been wrongly imprisoned for fifteen years, when the Police knew they were innocent all along. The Father didn't even know he had been pardoned, as he died whilst in prison.

She speaks at meetings about her outrage at the restrictions of liberties and the encroachment of police and state powers. You ask "why is (s)he not saying that this is all fake terror??". She probably is, but would the media report this?? The last time she spoke about the so called "liquid" bombers, it was reported in some American newspaper's websites, but was censored in the UK, we couldn't even see the web pages, you had to use a proxy to fool the "censor" page from coming up.

I can tell you that if Blair's police thugs ever descended on me and accused me of terrorism, Gareth would be the first lawyer's name to spring to my mind!! Thank God there are lawyers around like her.

[scubadiver]

As far as I know Guiseppe Conlon has never been pardoned although Jerry has tried in the past. I don't know whether he has given up.

[spiv]

Scuba, if you are correct then I apologise for my error in using the word "pardon". However, if the state is refusing to "pardon" him, then that is an indictment on the state and the police who were responsible for the travesty of justice.

I gather that the chief copper involved in the investigation has never faced any charges or disciplinary procedures, and is still drawing his police pension, paid for by you and I, the taxpayers!!!

[Harassed]

[scubadiver]

[PaulStott]

I think what you have to ask yourself in this case is:

1. Are the British police/security services capable of fabricating a plot like this? To which the answer is obviously yes.

2. Are there people in the British Muslim communities capable of committing a crime along the lines of the press reports? To which the answer is obviously yes.

Given that, it is too early to judge if this was a genuine plot that has been thwarted, or more MI5/SB bs.

[Patrick Brown]

[Mark Gobell]

[PaulStott]

You only have to look at the involvement of British Muslims in terrorism (both in the UK and abroad) to see it is entirely possible.

Shoe bomber Richard Reid for example was quite willing to kill hundreds of men, women and children, and would have done so had he not been stopped by other passengers.

On 7/7 Londoners were not so lucky.

[Mark Gobell]

But you didn't mention alleged shoe bombers, you were referring to potential beheadists, so my question is what leads you to the assumption that Muslims or anyone else are capable of such acts.

[Patrick Brown]

[Mark Gobell]

Planet earth calling Mr Brown.

I have never, ever in my life, before today, heard anybody suggest that anyone whatsoever, could go and kidnap somebody, behead them, film it and publish that film on the internet.

You, Mr Brown, are the second person to make such an absurd suggestion in as many minutes.

[Patrick Brown]

[brian]

The hapless would be shoe bomber Richard Reid takes on a different hew when it turns out he was in Israel prior to his "attempt" and reportedly had his shoes taken away for examination. This compounded by his failure to board the first plane at Paris due to security concerns but was then helped by Israeli security - ICTS - to board the plane he was arrested on.

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=300

[blackbear]

Hello Patrick...

Do you have a problem with muslims.?

Concentrate on the present day holocaust against the black moustaches.

I am confident that yourself + PaulStott would be more suited to Harry's Place than searching for the truth on here.

[Patrick Brown]

[blackbear]

Hello Patrick

A 1000 posts later + your conclusion....

But I do have a problem with ..... people who seem obsessed with blaming the Jews and the British and American governments!

We are a 9/11 site....

Perhaps after another 1000 posts the shekel might drop.....

9/11 ......good day for Israel. The dancers knew the time of the show....

....+ the truth shall set you free.....but for some reason Patrick, I don't think you are interested.

Try a balti in Sparkbrook......

[Bongo]

Before the story disappears rapidly from the BBC and for posterity of course...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6340935.stm

[Bongo]

And this from the BBC on Thursday, 1 February 2007, 16:56 GMT...
OH How They Were Right To Be Concerned...

[StopThe9/11CoverUp]

Like my wife said tonight, funny how this whole letter/parcel bombing has come at just the right time to knock the home office disasters of the no.1 news story.

As jimmy greaves said, its a funny old game.

[scubadiver]

JUST IN !!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6343109.stm

[Pincher]

[Mark Gobell]

Mr Pincher.

As I said I do normally enjoy reading your missives.

This is no exception.

I note also that this is the second time you have referred to some deep seated, psychological, familial event that has somehow triggered my liberal leanings.

This last inference is a landmark statement in my life and for that I thank you. It, is, in fact, the first time in my life that anyone has referred to me as a liberal. Quite remarkable.

In addition to the reverence in which I hold your deeply insightful political knowledge I now have to add that I am in awe of your deep insight into my political makeup and the consequential road down which you travel. Mr Pincher.

[Mark Gobell]

While you're assembling your next diatribe Mr Pincher, some homework for you.

Perhaps your deeply insightful mind could explain to the world precisely which acts of terrorism you consider to have actually been committed by your enemy of choice in the UK.

Of course, this comes with a caveat that you no doubt consider to be disengenous, that being the little old nugget of proof.

Just in case you missed my disingenuous thrust against your victim, who self evidently deserves your sympathy, attention and support, Paul Stott, I was questioning his assertion that Muslims in particular or any other group here in the UK are "of course" capable of beheading people.

By the way, does your gallant intervention on behalf of Mr Stott qualify you for some deep seated, familial, psycho trauma Mr Pincher, or is he just one among your deserving intellectual poor ?

I have noted your inferred liberal tendencies too. LOL