Archbishop's could add weight to the "Truth"

[AllThatWeSeeOrSeem]

The Archbishop of York has criticised Britains creeping police state laws (as reported on the ITV news approx 10.35pm earlier this evening) - there's not much I can find on the web yet, except...

Cleric airs 'police state' fears

Dr Sentamu questioned efforts to extend detentions without charge
The Archbishop of York has warned that the government's anti-terror measures are in danger of moving Britain "close to a police state".
Dr John Sentamu, who fled Uganda in the 1970s, criticised 90-day detention, and compared it to his home country under Idi Amin's dictatorial regime.

The archbishop said: "If you detain people, you must have good enough reason for detaining them."

The home secretary moved recently to extend custody limits for suspects.

The limit is currently 28 days for those suspected of terrorism, but yet to be charged.

John Reid told fellow ministers he wanted to try to find cross-party consensus on the controversial issue, at the request of police chiefs.

Government attempts to extend the limit to 90 days failed in 2005, opposed by Tories, Lib Dems and some Labour MPs.

Birmingham suspects

In an interview with ITV's Evening News, Britain's second most senior cleric said: "[The home secretary] has not produced the evidence that shows that in 90 days you're capable of getting somebody prosecuted.

"Why does he want these days, so the police do what? Gather more evidence?

"To me that becomes, if you're not very careful, very close to a police state in which they pick you up and then they say later on 'we'll find evidence against you'. That's what happened in Uganda with Idi Amin."

Meanwhile, West Midlands Police are continuing to question nine people arrested in Birmingham over an alleged plot to kidnap and murder a Muslim soldier.

The archbishop also urged people coming to live in the UK to adopt and "cherish" British values.

"If you are in Britain and you're British, you should really cherish the traditions that are here," he said.

"If you don't actually subscribe to the things that make Britain, you're going to be in trouble."

which was from
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6329815.stm


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Britain 'at risk of police state'
THE Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, today issued a warning that Britain was in danger of "coming close to a police state" in the wake of the arrest of suspected terrorists in Birmingham.

Dr Sentamu, who fled Uganda in the 1970s, criticised 90-day detention, likening it to his home country under the tyrannical rule of Idi Amin.

He said: "If you detain people, you must have good enough reason for detaining them."

which was from

http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=190592007

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Also Check out:

http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/news_syndication/article_060223senta mu.shtml

I noticed that a Google search for "Archbishop" and "police state" throws up a few high profile spokespeople who may yet assist the cause...

I don't know how well the Church of England has been "canvassed" ?

Keep on keepin on


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[uselesseater]

Well said Dr Sentamu!

This illustrates what criminal traitors we have in public life when it is left to a Ugandan to defend British values.

[Mark Gobell]

Come a long way haven't we.

I remember the first influx of Ugandan Asians into this country in the 1970s, fleeing from the mad, bad dictator Idi Amin.

We now have a senior C of E cleric from Uganda, lecturing our executive on human rights issues.

[PaulStott]

Given the Church of England has a whiff of death about it as an organised religious presence in this country, I can't take seriously what they say on any issue to be honest.

[Bongo]

[wickywoowoo]

[Mark Gobell]

[PaulStott]

[PaulStott]

[Snowygrouch]

God its like a bloody record player with fluff on the stylus isnt it?

WTC7 ? Errrrr...Errr..... YOUR ANTI SEMITES!!!!

ISI Funding Errr........YOUR ANTI SEMITES!!!

Hijackers trained on US military bases?......Errr Anti SEMITES!!!

Damn your so BORING.....cant you come up with some alternative idiotic reasoning just to make your posts more interesting to read?

*yawn*

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Ooooo wonder whats next in this intellectual 'tour de force'.

"the story about all the debris being swiftly taken away is *"

Hmmmmm FEMA state that around 350,000tons of steel was recovered in total. Well over one third of that was gone within 18 days.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2001%2F09%2F2 9%2Fwnyc29.xml

"fire experts told Congress that about 80% of the steel was scrapped without being examined because investigators did not have the authority to preserve the wreckage" N.Y. Daily News, 4/16/02

Oh dear. You`ve been a silly boy.

Of course there was still wreckage there months later there was about two million tonnes of all sorts of stuff from the wtc complex as a whole. Nobody could ship out 2 million tonnes of stuff through NY in an evening!!

The point is they started immidiately (a criminal offence under federal terrorism legislation) and refused access to the vast majority of it.

Jeesus

[Thermate]

[PaulStott]

[Thermate]

[Mark Gobell]

Mr Stott - I take it your question was intended to be rhetorical.

I know nothing of you or your past.

And yes my post was aimed directly in response to yours.

[wickywoowoo]

I wasn't calling anyone an anti semite, lol.

I was just trying to point out your comment on the Church of England may easily be taken in a context you didn't mean it to be taken in and people on this site really should be a bit more careful about comments like that.

[Bongo]

wickywoowoo, I second the comment... and I hope it is taken in the context you feel is not acceptable. I hope the day comes sooner rather than later when organised religion is dead. It is already a primitive ideology and when the whole world become Humanists then the world will be a better place.

Ps. When you die... it will be exactly the same as before you were born... that is just life. I cannot be threatened by the fear mongering of the organised religions... The same fear mongering tactics used by the Neo-Cons. I do not see any difference between the two.

[TonyGosling]

The Illuminati's stated aim was to undermine all religion and government. Which they appear to have almost achieved. There's nothing wrong with reading the Bible and nothing wrong with believing it.

They want all those with beliefs and loyalyies incompatible with the New World Order to be persuaded to drop those ideas which freemasonic infiltration of the Church of England has achieved reasonably successfully. They will be replaced with a humanistic philosophy/religion.

What so many people miss is that wanting to ban organised religion is a belief-system in itself!

'They' want the great religions of the world: Judaism, Christianity and Islam to be in disarray so they can't organise against the NWO. Just look what they did to the Rabbis in WWII! An organised church would be a formidable anti NWO force. Especially if priests went on about microchipping being 'the mark of the beast' in Revelation 13 (which some are beginning to do at last) - ordinary people would start to listen and wake up to the battle for hearts and minds which is now being waged for our souls by the spiritual forces of good and evil.

Of course if you don't believe in God then you're probably one of those people that believe people of faith have been responsible for all the wars... blah... blah... blah... How wrong can you be?

[The Watcher]

Paul Stott wrote:

[Hazzard]

Look dont worry guys, every single REAL christian in this island will be persecuted soon enough, just be patient.

All the other anti-relegious liberal global brotherhood numbskulls will be kicking their heals in approximately 30 years time when relegion is outlawed and the world is one big happy family for all of about 10 years and the cracks start to show and the lie that is the new world order is clear for all to see.

Christians will be rounded up and killed im sure about that. And im sure a percentage of society is just that fvcked up enough to support it. Not to mention they will have to meet in secret just to do what they do every sunday that doesnt hurt anyone.

[wickywoowoo]