Vapour trails, contrails or chemtrails? Fact or fiction?

[Patrick Brown]

I can remember seeing trails behind airliners back in the seventies. Remember those hot summer days of 76 didn't you used to lay there sunbathing and watch the trails?

I figure chemtrails are balls. Isn't this Boyle chap the guy that channels aliens?

[Ignatz]

[London Mick]

This is my first post on this board. I see you have attracted a couple of paid shills already!

Vapour trails are not chemtrails. As has been said we have always had vapour trails in the sky and that is what you see coming off the WW2 bombers and any pictures of Spitfires and Hurricanes in the Battle of Britain.
These chemtrails are being deliberately laid down, often in a crisscross pattern. I'm really surprised that so few of you know about them. Are you not investigating the truth behind 9/11 etc? Don't you know what Google is? Just type in "chemtrails", for crying out loud! Spend half an hour reading the tons of stuff you will find.
Next time you have a clear sunny day in your area, go outside and look at the sky. Pretty soon high flying white unmarked jets will appear flying higher than normal passenger jets and twice as fast. They do not stick to the usual flight paths. You will see them hundreds of miles away from any civilian airports. I watched them crisscrossing Dartmoor one day until the whole sky was covered.
The gunk that they spew out has been analysed and it contains barium and aluminium particles. Some say it is weather modification and some say it is increasing the conductivity of the atmosphere making it easier to use HAARP. Sinister, what?

Please, we are well beyond discussing whether these things exist and we know they are not vapour trails from parrafin. Enough, already!

Expect to be hearing a lot more from me!

[Newspeak International]

Welcome London Mick and thanks for that,your first contribution to these boards.

West Yorks Truth forum is pretty good too eh?

[Ignatz]

[paul wright]

Ignore the nonsense Mick is my advice
Dont get involved in Critics Corner is my second
Nice to see you here

[Ignatz]

[paul wright]

[paul wright]

[Ignatz]

[Sherlock]

Hi,

I think that unless you see these trails above you nearly everyday you can't actually appreciate what an awful mess they make of our skies.

I really do wish people wouldn't dismiss this, maybe you should just take time to look and learn a little more instead of saying so quickly .. either conspiracy or they are Contrails!!!

As for looking up when I was a child.... Yes I did and all I remember seeing is fluffy clouds, cloudy skies but NEVER Trails like there are over us. I have asked several older people about he skies of today and they also agree that it was never like this.

I have looked in many various old books and I don't see skies with trails like today..

The new books dated from around 2000 have the skies of today in them, probably getting our children used to it been like it is now.. hope as time goes by they get to see it like I remember it... Blue Sky and white clouds, NOT a White Milky Haze with these trails that turns into whisps.

I have seen the picture of the war planes many times, IMO this doesn't prove that the trails of today are the same as them... it's a picture many peeps use to say there has always been trails like today,,,

I really wish I could see other pics from years ago with skies like today but so far I have not...




Care to you all

Di

PS a link to You Tube Jarvis Cocker song to a Sky /sea Video!! (some bad language in it, thought I'd mention it for those of a nervous disposition)

Some will apreciate it, some won't.. I personally thought it about summed it up well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_M22STINYw


The picture below has 4 planes in it (2 of them are fainter than the others)
shame the chimney was in the shot... as you can see two of them look like they have been shot out of the same cannon.. if you notice they start quite close together from the left of the pic and they appear to come from exactly the same direction / position. (just click on pic to make it bigger)

[SilkSpinner]

[London Mick]

The Discovery channel is putting out a programme on Chemtrails soon. Check it out.

[Patrick Brown]

[SilkSpinner]

I've also seen lots of optical weirdness going on up there if you look enough,, this site http://www.atoptics.co.uk/
You'll see plenty on there, explaining the lot (I'm NOT convinced), web site started in 98.
Just look about the site, most of the pictures you will see Persistent CON-trails all over the place, not many old pictures up there, hmmm.
Just keep a open mind folks but that’s why MOST of us are here already because we have one.
Most TV ((Programs)) have them in,, I watched Top Gear last week and the sky was full of them, they even darkened the top of the screen(might* have been for that reason)

First Picture 28-04-06 at 15.54 Second one is 46 minutes later at 16.40

That’s what the trails do to our sky,, DON'T listen to anyone on here dismissing it as nonsense or balls, just do you're own research, there’s oodles of things on Google Video and You tube plus many websites.

Try finding pictures/skies before 95 like this.



Belief is the Enemy of TRUTH

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[Andrew Johnson]

[Patrick Brown]

Andrew it's such a shame that you didn't vid this with a time/date stamp as some of us may think you're trying to pull the wool over our eyes!

And yes those trails look just like the ones I remember seeing back in the summer of 1976. I also remember that I would often look up and see triangular criss cross patterns caused by the vapor trails of the aircraft.

Are you on some kind of power trip Andrew where you get kicks out of fouling simple minded people? Or is it simply that you're the one being fouled!

[Sherlock]

Patrick,
What difference does it make if Andrew had the time/date on camera? It is blatantly obvious that whatever is going on up there it is making a mess of our skies.

You have a closed mind on this subject IMO, you seem unable to look at all these pictures and actually have a rational/logical thought on this.

Whatever it is that they are pumping out on us can’t be good for our health, there are just so many of these trails.

Like I have said many times before to people, if you don’t see them over you nearly everyday I really don’t think you can appreciate the fact how bad this abuse of our sky.

Whatever pictures/films/documents/people talking about this you see and hear, I don’t think will change your opinion, but I’m not on this thread to do that, I just think some people might be interested in the pics been put up and may have seen them over their town…
So if your not interested in this, why keep coming back to this thread?

As for you seeing this in 1976, you may well have but people who I have spoken to on this subject say they have never seen skies like this until a few years ago.

As for simple minded people, I don’t see where you get off on this comment, it is insulting to say the least..

My definition of a Simple Minded Person is .. one who has an UNinformed opinion on something, but still insists on trying to debunk what is clearly visible to the eyes. In this instant THE TRAILS LEFT BY AIRCRAFT DO EXSIST AND NOT AS BEFORE, NOT IN NORFOLK ANYWAY!!!

Please tell me a book that was published before 1998 that has the skies looking as they do now.

[marky 54]

[marky 54]

just to add there have been loads of planes flying over my house today and the sky is the clearest blue you could imagine. not one lingering trail that hangs there for half a day/all day turning into long fluffy clouds.

chemicals? i dont know but nothing ive heard try to explain does explain them. i get told all sorts and nothing matches. when i do see a plane usually leave a long trail the trail dissapears at the same rate it appears but is slightly longer than usual these are normal, long continous trails that only target a specific area and linger all day is not. number one tell tale sign that seems to be there when this is going of is the large X in the sky. X marks the spot?

[Abandoned Ego]

[marky 54]

in a way it a bit like 9/11 in terms of awareness, no one believes it to start with then some people wake up whilst being ridiculed by those that dont believe it. yet if they kept an eye on the sky watched and took note of any plane trail to see how they behave it becomes obvious which are chemtrail and witch are not. basically if it aint a chemtrail it will disapear as the plane is moving, not stay there long after the plane has long gone.

i saw one that wasnt even leaving a trail then started to leave one, then didnt, then did again, then didnt again ect, untill it became a continous line untill it got right across the sky then it stopped leaving a trail at all. so the trail looked like: nothing, dash, dash, dash, dash, continous line, stop. contrail? i carnt see it.

[Patrick Brown]

[marky 54]

[Andrew Johnson]

[Patrick Brown]

Andrew what has any of this got to do with 911?

And please don't say aircraft!

[Mark Gobell]

What was so special about the summer of 76 then Patrick ?

[Patrick Brown]

[Andrew Johnson]