Does Alex Jones warp his editorial line to appease Zionists?

[alexsandie]

NEW AUDIO
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1841

Alex Jones & the Temple of Doom

The implosion of the 9/11 Truth Movement continues as Alex Jones
goes totally fruitloop on his radio show. Audio and analysis.

Plus: A claimed survivor of the London 7/7 Bus Bombing is pushing
a wild story on an Alex Jones broadcast a few days ago.

And: Why the 9/11 CoverUp Will Come Apart at the Seams

The 9/11-3i Investigation Resumes
"The Next Level" Internet Radio Show

DSL Mp3 Audio
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/NextLevel070209a.mp3

Dialup Mp3 Audio
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/NextLevel070209.mp3

Links & Discussion at:
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1841

[John White]

"Hello all! I'd like to promote one conspiracy researcher calling another conspiracy researcher a fool! Thanks everyone!"

I'm sure there are some challenged people who worship the ground Alex Jones walks on: just as there are sure to be the same for Fintan Dunne: but I dont see Jones bothering to rubbish anyone else. Advice for Dunne to live up to perhaps

Meanwhile, adults understand that NONE of them are infallably right, and get on with making up their own minds

Links taken under advisment

Thanks

[alexsandie]

[Leiff]

Is it Fintan Dunne who has been phoning in to Genesis this week and saying 'Cuckoo' and 'Fruitloop' repeatedly in a silly voice?!??!?!?!

[John White]

[Fallious]

Oh man, didn't we go over this a few days back? Anyway, I listened to the show that someone posted, where he talks about his COINTEL list... yeesh.

You know the ONE point he lists for Alex Jones is the fact that he picked up the story about the exercises on 7/7 and because Channel 4 made a hit piece on it he supposes that this particular bit of information was planted specifically so the 100 + CIA truth websites would get all excited about it before a smack down... You've got to be kidding me.

Lets see: release proof that there was foreknowledge of the 7/7 targets, in an attempt to discredit the concurrent exercise issue on 9/11, which is not discreditable, its a fact and fully documented.. OR not release proof of foreknowledge on 7/7 don't drop the biggest smoking gun of the operation and don't discredit the untouchable evidence of 9/11 exercises.

Golly. Tricky one, that.

[paul wright]

Fintan first got excited about CIA-controlled sites because they weren't reporting that the court-appearing Saddam was a fake (correct in my opinion). Joe Vialls was the first to report this.
Then he lists the late joe's site as CIA-sponsored
Fintan's got a bit of a problem
Anyway I recognise fruitloop as a derogarotary definition from the likes of the snide aholes in places like Urban 75

[alexsandie]

This is a new Audio Fallious, so no, it hasn't been discussed here before, even if it is part of the CIA Fakes investigation. You obviously didn't bother to check it out. Anyway, it will be very interesting to see how all this plays out. If I was a betting woman, I know where I'd be putting my money

[Jack]

that show was 1000% nuttier than alex jones

it's pretty easy to see that jones is sincere. he is an effective and passionate activist and his ostensibly "nutty" moments represent his attempt to instill some urgency in fellow truthseekers and patriots.

jones is a NWO shill? that is nutty. so what if he expresses his own Christian views? he makes a clear distinction between the facts that come out in the news and his own perception, analysis and personal beliefs.

[telecasterisation]

[Fallious]

[alexsandie]

My money is on sunlight and truth. You haven't even bothered to put your Fintan prejudices on one side and go listen to the Audio. You never know, you might be inspired. Perhaps the doom and gloom of Alan Watt and his ilk is more appealing to you. Lots of sunlight beaming out of Watty (yup, he's a right bright lightbulb )

[Hazzard]

Look guys just ignore this nonsense.

Alex is a good researcher and has done emence work to wake people up and I like the guy, but sometimes he says things that piss me off and get up my nose and to be honest hes only human, he eats sleeps * and pisses just like you and I.

He said one thing that I agree with WHOLE HEARTEDLY!!

WE MUST REMAIN LEADERLESS, ORGANIC!

Only as a fluid, formless, leaderless movement of truth and justice can we accomplish anything.

The moment we start getting bogged down with this puny rediculous nonsense about what one guy said to another guy, thats when the COINTELPRO starts to work wonders for the NWO.

I continually get skeptical over the people who post this nonsense on these forums.

[Skeptic]

Is this a joke?

You've edited together various clips of Alex Jones to make him look crazy.

and this proves?

[Snowygrouch]

Mods what are you up to??

Why are you letting these people post *****g S*** all over the forum?

Alexandie get your negative, S**T stirring worthless junk off this site. You are NOT welcome here.

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[FintanDunne]

I am contributing here because it's hardly fair that alexsandie is subjected
to abuse, merely for posting information to the forum. If you wish to
disagree that's fair enough. Debate is good. But schoolyard bullying is not.

Alex Jones, Obachike and Peter Power

by Fintan Dunne, BreakForNews.com, 12th Feb 2007.

Let's get to the facts. There were two substantial aspects to my latest
broadcasts. First in relation to Daniel Obachike's claims to be a survivor of
the London 7/7 bus bombings and his appearance on the Alex Jones show
within 48 hrs. of my publishing an article critical of his story. Second as to
the role of Alex Jones as a purveyor of deliberately lame conspiracy
stories to spoil the pot for legitimate 9/11 truth seekers.

There is no proof that Daniel Obachike was aboard that bus. No photos of
him as the scene. No contemporaneous interviews with media -just one
many months later. And no substantiation from the fact that he supposedly
gave a statement seven months later to police --as we do not not the
detail of that statement.

His own account of events attempts to explain his absence from the
scene of the bus blast, by saying he jumped off the bus within seconds of
the bomb explosion and ran away Then he says he went to some hotel
with some lady to help get her some medical assistance. All conveniently
taking him away from the scene and explaining his absence from photos.

He says he saw a man with a camcorder filming the scene and was
suspicious. This in one of the most popular tourist destinations in the
world. He claims that police stood around doing nothing in the immediate
aftermath of the bomb blast. I don't believe him. He says a Mercedes and
a BMW blocked the bus earlier, with an impliciation this caused it's
diversion. Though he admits the diversion came five minutes later. He
says one of the drivers waved what may have been identification at a
police motorcyclist. Though he admits he did not see any identification. He
claims an injured man at the scene had fake injuries because he saw the
man at a point too far away to have been affected by the blast. Though
he himself admits he was not at the scene in the aftermath, so how would
he know where the man was originally.

Lacking any substantial merit to those claims, his website is padded out
with video of his apartment concierge, he claims. Audio of a police call to
him, he claims. And tales of harassment which extended to the security
services blocking him from getting employment and the police in the
street on point duty jeering him as he passed them. Amazing. Even the
bobbies in the street are in on the conspiracy, it seems.

It would be tempting to conclude that all this is merely some opportunist
cashing in on the bombings with a book. But I believe it's far worse. I
believe this is yet another deliberately 'flaky' conspiracy tale to smear
those with legitimate concerns about the genesis of the 7/7 attacks.

The Obachike story is on the Internet since last autumn, but it was within
48hrs. of my article pointing out some of the holes in the story that he
quickly appeared on the Alex Jones show. This would not be the first time
Jones has been involved in 'flaky' 7/7 conspiracy theory. There's a good
reason why.

The establishment had fears that journalists might suspect that all was not
right with the official 7/7 account. Even regardless of what reporters put
in print, what they talk about in private among themselves could be very
damaging. Especially as the security services in the U.K. hardly have a
pristine record on the issue of terrorism attacks. (See Guilford Four,
Birmingham Six)

So it would be especially worthwhile for whomever carried out the
bombings to plant a spoiler story to put the media off the track and help
ridicule 'conspiracy theorists'. That is where Alex Jones and the issue of a
'terror drill' on the morning of 7/7 comes in. I believe this issue was
deliberately constructed as a booby-trap --well in advance.

The involvement of Peter Power is hardly coincidental. Indeed coincidence
and Peter Power seem to go hand in hand.

[Snowygrouch]

You think that posting comments like

"The implosion of the 9/11 Truth Movement continues"

Constitutes useful INFORMATION?????

Whatever

[Dr. Zoidberg]

[Hazzard]

Who cares what Alex Jones or this Fintane fellow says?

What does it have to do with gouging the truth out of the real perps?

Why are we even on this issue day in day out.

[paul wright]

Hi Fintan. Of course nice to see all great campaigners here
Did you include this site as CIA-controlled?
There were so many, I can't remember

[Snowygrouch]

This is all rubbish as far as I`m concerened. I havnt seen anyone "hitting an iceberg". I certainly havn`t and the huge sucess of the WR tour would also seem to back that up.

I really dont see where this "implosion" actually IS!

The issues of disinfo and infiltration have been here since day 1....I really dont see what cause there is for fuss (other than to say its pointless posting threads about this stuff).

It just seems strange to me as I`m on regular contact with several pivotal truth people on BOTH sides of the pond and I never hear of anything but progress and sucess.

Where you lot are finding hopelessness and self-pity from is quite beyond me. Then again I dont go out in active search of dissapointment so perhaps thats the answer isnt it?

C.

[Leiff]

Fintan

Please can you post the evidence that you have on the CIA controlled sites? I downloaded your show that relates to them but it is corrupted.
Also, who is Alex Jones in direct and proximate contact with?

[alkmyst]

Fintan Dunne wrote:

[London Mick]

What flimsy evidence Dunne provides. So Alex Jones makes a mistake over the numbers involved in Powers drill? So what? The drills happened and the drill were going on on 9/11 too. There is also an ongoing drill about the bird flu in turkey nonsense too. I believe there was a drill going on in France or Bulgaria at the same time as their outbreaks.

The Dunne talks about the implosion of the movement and all the damage that has been done. What damage?ore and more people are hearing the truth and coming round to our way of thinking. Even the yellow press is putting in place damage limitation stories to cover themselves for not printing the truth originally. They know they are being found out.

Who is funding this unlikely looking Irishman anyway? Where has he come from? He tells us nothing about his background in his blog. Not even where he comes from in Ireland or what he used to do before he suddenly appeared on the airwaves of the internet. What Irish movements was he involved in? Ireland is a small place. He must be well known among the anti-war movement there, or is he?

[kbo234]

[alexsandie]

This is a more accurate Subject heading for this thread, instead of "Is Alex Jones losing the plot?" He was always going to. That was part of the plan.

[rodin]

Previously on nineeleven I posted that this Obachike story is likely our version of 'the conversation in Hebrew'. I also posted (though no one seems to have noticed) an important point about Peter Power's comments on 7/7. In a nutshell..

I knew 7/7 was staged immediately of course. I heard Peter Power on 5-live and could not believe my ears - in fact we rushed a DnB tune out using the 5-live interview as audio sample, so striking was the content.

At the time I thought Power had blundered onto the radio to plug how good his company was at reacting to the event. Provoked into re-examining Power's comments, I realised that the 'over a thousand people' comment, forcefully added to both the radio and TV interviews he did (in which he said the same things), was significant. I just checked - Verint had 1200 employees in 2005. He also said we moved from slow time to quick time when we realised it was the real thing. The only company in a position to do this was Verint. So were Verint the company running simulated exercises that turned into the real thing?

Looks like Power was deliberately trying to tell us something. Ask yourself - why did he quickly go on the radio and TV on the day to spill the beans about the exercise? Before he could he told to shut up?

Precisely

[FintanDunne]

Peter Power is hardcore UK-ATB: Anti-terrorism branch.

I agree Power was trying to tell us something.
Or rather trying to sell us something.

A herring. Red in color: 'terror drill'

Peter Power is not dumb.

I should clear up this issue of the the 9/11 Truth implosion mentioned in
the intro text for the latest audio. The intro was meant for regular readers
and listeners to BreakForNews. It's a shorthand for the longer expression
coined on the fourm there:

"The Controled Demolition of the 9/11 Truth Movement"

That's a term with special significance to US listeners and readers who
are well aware what it means. So I appreciate folks in the UK did not
get the reference.

The 9/11 perps gameplan all along has been to implode the major US
websites and personalities cheerleading the 9/11 Truth issue --exactly
around the time that the GOP and GWB sufffered their electoral
defeat at the hands of the Democrats. Their plan is that the 'Oomph'
will go out of US resistance and activism because they no longer feel
they have to fight tooth and nail to defeat Bush and the Neocons.

And with that dynamic in play, they are dismantling these fake 9/11
websites and personalities coincident with that electoral defeat.

In recent months we have seen the departure of leading CIA Fakes, as I
have termed them. First Mike Ruppert of From the Wilderness, who is ill
allegedly/apparently; then Lisa Guiliani and Victor Thorn of Wing TV threw
in the towel; then the big falling out in the ST911 Scholars for 9/11 Truth;
then in recent weeks Republic Broadcasting Network collapsed.

To US 9/11 Truth followers these were significant players on the 9/11
issue. All of this has been staged in the hope of disillusioning those who
want the truth to come out. And, as I say, the perps hope is that the
whole drive for truth will implode.

The long term gameplan is to have the 9/11 issue fade away, with the
lingering suspicion that Bush, the hardcore US Military Industrial Complex
and the Neocons were responsible for 9/11. With them gone from the
scene, then the perps figure nobody would care enough any more.

Of course, these suspects are the prearranged hate figures for 9/11.

In truth it was a G8 operation, and is being covered up by the combined
intelligence services of the G8 nations. As you well know, the London 7/7
bombings took place right in the middle of the G8 Summit --giving the
G8 leaders the perfect platform to denounce the very terrorism they are
orchestrating. All part of the G8 New World Order ---a thinly disguised
attack on civil liberties in the G8 nations themselves and part of a plan
to dominate the emerging global economy.

The US powerbroker in all this is George Bush Senior. Junior is merely
his idiot son whose job it is to take the heat. Thus the relentless focus
on GWB and hence his planned defeat at the hands of the Democrats.
The Democratic elite (Clintons and Kerry et. al.) are working with Bush
Snr. and so the G8 could care less whether the Dems or GOP are in
power. The end result is always the same.

The current profile of the 9/11 issue in the UK is only to reinforce the
vague suspicion that Bush Jr. and the Neocons might have done it. That's
what the G8 want the sheeple to think. After a few more weeks of this the
isssue will be dropped entirely and you won't hear another word about
the whole thing from the controlled media. Period.

The 9/11 issue is to be a footnote in history.

That's their plan anyway, so it's up to ordinary activists to make sure
this does not succeed. Especially in the next few months. However, the
perps have a big Bird Flu thing in mind to keep the people otherwise
occupied - so watch out for that one.

In reply to posts above:

Background on me is at http://FintanDunne.com

The evidence about the CIA Fakes is here:
http://www.breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm

and most recently here:

Uncovered: The Rat's Nest of 9/11
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26

There's a lot of it. About three or fours years of in depth investigation.
But you could summarize it like this: The 9/11 perps came up with
a better idea than trying to fight the 9/11 Movement. Long before
they pulled off the Op they determined that they would not fight
the 9/11 Truth Movement.

They would ensure success by BEING the 9/11 Truth Movement.

Think about it. Then act to defeat them. I am.

[rodin]

It has been obvious for sometime that the 911 truth movement was in place in time for 911. Making predictions is difficult - especially about the future, yet Alex Jones 'knew' that 911 was coming.

Maybe a lucky guess, but how can we know?

To defuse this 'who's a truther and who's a shill' meme that is using up valuable time and energy I suggest we unite behind evidence that no-one can deny and form a mutually agreed case. No thermite. No beam weapons. Nothing open to debate, only facts, starting with a short list of irrefutible single events, moving on to scientific proofs and statistical analysis of 'coincidences'.

Examples of things we know (or at least I THINK we know)

Bush said he saw the first plane hit the tower (Twice -I have audio of this)

3 of the 5 dancing Israelis appeared on TV and admitted they were there on 911 to document the event. They were arrested with Arab clothing in their van. (Video evidence plus NYT report.)

Our Gov produced false witnesses testimony to the Luton train journey (train they were supposedly on was delayed/cancelled)

Not included would be unproven hypotheses.

We have a global problem here, not just G8. The scope of the control stems from whoever controls the supply (printing or counterfieting) of money.

Now - has anyone got a better idea?

[rodin]