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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: For once, George Monbiot gets it right! Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: For once, George Monbiot gets it right! Reply with quote

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If there is one universal American characteristic, it is a confessional culture that permits no one with a good story to keep his mouth shut. People appear on the Jerry Springer Show to admit to carnal relations with their tractors. Yet none of the participants in this monumental crime has sought to blow the whistle - before, during or after the attacks. No one has volunteered to tell the greatest story ever told.

easily the biggest flaw with the whole cospiracy theory, and, totally undeniable
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If there is one universal American characteristic, it is a confessional culture that permits no one with a good story to keep his mouth shut. People appear on the Jerry Springer Show to admit to carnal relations with their tractors. Yet none of the participants in this monumental crime has sought to blow the whistle - before, during or after the attacks. No one has volunteered to tell the greatest story ever told.

easily the biggest flaw with the whole cospiracy theory, and, totally undeniable


the biggest flaw in your post is people all ready contridict the offical story and did do from day one. however they get ignored and are not reported by the mainstream media and was not included in the commission report, they got omitted. since day one people have been coming forward all the time. also ive read many things that suggest people are scared to come forward or been told to shut up. the only way you can claim no body has come forward is if you are dumb or done nothing in terms of researching.

the biggest flaw is those claiming its crazy to believe it was an inside job whilst making it obvious they dont have a clue, especially about the thing they use as points as to why it could'nt be.

i think what you are trying to say is it cannot be true because I have not heard of any witnesses that have come forward?

brillant reasoning by the way of course jerry springer is a good comparison Rolling Eyes , americans tell us they have had a sex change on jerry springer and that they have since been having an afair with a ladyboy from thailand and then the missus reveals shes been having a piece of the same person is obviously nothing to do with witnesses coming forward about 9/11 and not even the same!
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If there is one universal American characteristic, it is a confessional culture that permits no one with a good story to keep his mouth shut. People appear on the Jerry Springer Show to admit to carnal relations with their tractors. Yet none of the participants in this monumental crime has sought to blow the whistle - before, during or after the attacks. No one has volunteered to tell the greatest story ever told.

easily the biggest flaw with the whole cospiracy theory, and, totally undeniable


the biggest flaw in your post is people all ready contridict the offical story and did do from day one. however they get ignored and are not reported by the mainstream media and was not included in the commission report, they got omitted. since day one people have been coming forward all the time. also ive read many things that suggest people are scared to come forward or been told to shut up. the only way you can claim no body has come forward is if you are dumb or done nothing in terms of researching.

the biggest flaw is those claiming its crazy to believe it was an inside job whilst making it obvious they dont have a clue, especially about the thing they use as points as to why it could'nt be.

i think what you are trying to say is it cannot be true because I have not heard of any witnesses that have come forward?

brillant reasoning by the way of course jerry springer is a good comparison Rolling Eyes , americans tell us they have had a sex change on jerry springer and that they have since been having an afair with a ladyboy from thailand and then the missus reveals shes been having a piece of the same person is obviously nothing to do with witnesses coming forward about 9/11 and not even the same!

You are missing the point made, which is that all the great variety of conspiracy theories require the participation of hundreds, if not thousands, of people. Not a single one of these persons have felt the urge to come forward and confess, confession is said to be a great part of American culture, as shown by Jerry Springer etc.

This is quite different to people like William Rodriguez finding he can now make a living "remembering" things he never mentioned at the time.
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DaveyJ wrote:
If there is one universal American characteristic, it is a confessional culture that permits no one with a good story to keep his mouth shut. People appear on the Jerry Springer Show to admit to carnal relations with their tractors. Yet none of the participants in this monumental crime has sought to blow the whistle - before, during or after the attacks. No one has volunteered to tell the greatest story ever told.

easily the biggest flaw with the whole cospiracy theory, and, totally undeniable


the biggest flaw in your post is people all ready contridict the offical story and did do from day one. however they get ignored and are not reported by the mainstream media and was not included in the commission report, they got omitted. since day one people have been coming forward all the time. also ive read many things that suggest people are scared to come forward or been told to shut up. the only way you can claim no body has come forward is if you are dumb or done nothing in terms of researching.

the biggest flaw is those claiming its crazy to believe it was an inside job whilst making it obvious they dont have a clue, especially about the thing they use as points as to why it could'nt be.

i think what you are trying to say is it cannot be true because I have not heard of any witnesses that have come forward?

brillant reasoning by the way of course jerry springer is a good comparison Rolling Eyes , americans tell us they have had a sex change on jerry springer and that they have since been having an afair with a ladyboy from thailand and then the missus reveals shes been having a piece of the same person is obviously nothing to do with witnesses coming forward about 9/11 and not even the same!

You are missing the point made, which is that all the great variety of conspiracy theories require the participation of hundreds, if not thousands, of people. Not a single one of these persons have felt the urge to come forward and confess, confession is said to be a great part of American culture, as shown by Jerry Springer etc.

This is quite different to people like William Rodriguez finding he can now make a living "remembering" things he never mentioned at the time.


what rubbish he testified to the 9/11 comission and was omitted since then he has made it his life work to get the truth. he didnt realise his testimony would be omitted before that. he thought they would have the answers obviously, but they didnt. and more people than willie rodriguez have stepped forward, lots more.

his events are free i'd love to know what living you are talking about?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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marky 54 wrote:
DaveyJ wrote:
If there is one universal American characteristic, it is a confessional culture that permits no one with a good story to keep his mouth shut. People appear on the Jerry Springer Show to admit to carnal relations with their tractors. Yet none of the participants in this monumental crime has sought to blow the whistle - before, during or after the attacks. No one has volunteered to tell the greatest story ever told.

easily the biggest flaw with the whole cospiracy theory, and, totally undeniable


the biggest flaw in your post is people all ready contridict the offical story and did do from day one. however they get ignored and are not reported by the mainstream media and was not included in the commission report, they got omitted. since day one people have been coming forward all the time. also ive read many things that suggest people are scared to come forward or been told to shut up. the only way you can claim no body has come forward is if you are dumb or done nothing in terms of researching.

the biggest flaw is those claiming its crazy to believe it was an inside job whilst making it obvious they dont have a clue, especially about the thing they use as points as to why it could'nt be.

i think what you are trying to say is it cannot be true because I have not heard of any witnesses that have come forward?

brillant reasoning by the way of course jerry springer is a good comparison Rolling Eyes , americans tell us they have had a sex change on jerry springer and that they have since been having an afair with a ladyboy from thailand and then the missus reveals shes been having a piece of the same person is obviously nothing to do with witnesses coming forward about 9/11 and not even the same!

You are missing the point made, which is that all the great variety of conspiracy theories require the participation of hundreds, if not thousands, of people. Not a single one of these persons have felt the urge to come forward and confess, confession is said to be a great part of American culture, as shown by Jerry Springer etc.

This is quite different to people like William Rodriguez finding he can now make a living "remembering" things he never mentioned at the time.


what rubbish he testified to the 9/11 comission and was omitted since then he has made it his life work to get the truth. he didnt realise his testimony would be omitted before that. he thought they would have the answers obviously, but they didnt. and more people than willie rodriguez have stepped forward, lots more.

his events are free i'd love to know what living you are talking about?

You look at what he said, not to the 9/11 Commission, but at the time. He flies around with Jimmy Walters, he does a month long UK tour, he is not working, he is living on something, isn't he?

Anyway, he is not the issue here. The issue is that there has not been a single whistle-blower from the imaginary conspiracies.
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Bushwacker wrote:
marky 54 wrote:
DaveyJ wrote:
If there is one universal American characteristic, it is a confessional culture that permits no one with a good story to keep his mouth shut. People appear on the Jerry Springer Show to admit to carnal relations with their tractors. Yet none of the participants in this monumental crime has sought to blow the whistle - before, during or after the attacks. No one has volunteered to tell the greatest story ever told.

easily the biggest flaw with the whole cospiracy theory, and, totally undeniable


the biggest flaw in your post is people all ready contridict the offical story and did do from day one. however they get ignored and are not reported by the mainstream media and was not included in the commission report, they got omitted. since day one people have been coming forward all the time. also ive read many things that suggest people are scared to come forward or been told to shut up. the only way you can claim no body has come forward is if you are dumb or done nothing in terms of researching.

the biggest flaw is those claiming its crazy to believe it was an inside job whilst making it obvious they dont have a clue, especially about the thing they use as points as to why it could'nt be.

i think what you are trying to say is it cannot be true because I have not heard of any witnesses that have come forward?

brillant reasoning by the way of course jerry springer is a good comparison Rolling Eyes , americans tell us they have had a sex change on jerry springer and that they have since been having an afair with a ladyboy from thailand and then the missus reveals shes been having a piece of the same person is obviously nothing to do with witnesses coming forward about 9/11 and not even the same!

You are missing the point made, which is that all the great variety of conspiracy theories require the participation of hundreds, if not thousands, of people. Not a single one of these persons have felt the urge to come forward and confess, confession is said to be a great part of American culture, as shown by Jerry Springer etc.

This is quite different to people like William Rodriguez finding he can now make a living "remembering" things he never mentioned at the time.


what rubbish he testified to the 9/11 comission and was omitted since then he has made it his life work to get the truth. he didnt realise his testimony would be omitted before that. he thought they would have the answers obviously, but they didnt. and more people than willie rodriguez have stepped forward, lots more.

his events are free i'd love to know what living you are talking about?

You look at what he said, not to the 9/11 Commission, but at the time. He flies around with Jimmy Walters, he does a month long UK tour, he is not working, he is living on something, isn't he?

Anyway, he is not the issue here. The issue is that there has not been a single whistle-blower from the imaginary conspiracies.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/pages/230904_whistleblowers.html

not one?

how else can willie rodriguez tell his story if he is expected to not live of somebody or be helped out? the fact is he is not making a any significant profits or getting rich out of this no charges are made to the general public that are not voluntary or out of good will.

its the same with those who write books you go on as though thats the only reason they say anything. if media is not reporting the truth so what else do you expect? how else do you give people a chance to judge for themselves? you carnt do talks or write books and the media isnt reporting the truth, how else do you suggest these people get there message across?
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the link dosnt work but i dare you to type in 9/11 whistleblowers to your websearch.
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I would define whistleblower as someone who was in on the plot or has some inside knowledge, not some clueless git in a basement than said he heard a boom which may or may not have been from the airplane striking the tower.

And when you say "ignored by the mainstream media", why doesn't national television and mainstream newspapers and magazines count?

All you've got is Alex Jones links which have been quietly removed.
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I would define whistleblower as someone who was in on the plot or has some inside knowledge, not some clueless git in a basement than said he heard a boom which may or may not have been from the airplane striking the tower.

And when you say "ignored by the mainstream media", why doesn't national television and mainstream newspapers and magazines count?

All you've got is Alex Jones links which have been quietly removed.


did you do a 9/11 whistleblower search? no dont wont your view shattered?

ill do it for you then

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=59872

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0904/091304c1.htm

if these links dont work just do the search i suggested in the first place and you'll find links to goverment and fbi and department of defense ect ect whistleblowers. do these people just sit in there basements and not clued up on how things work?
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even those that try to prove wrong 9/11 inside job have lie or admit a few things!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7180303712325092501

if it dosnt work check under the general section under nist engineer squims.
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These people are not claiming to have inside knowledge of a government plot, they are saying that not enough heads rolled for the failures on 9/11. You are completely misrepresenting them. Edmonds is all over the place, widely reported, has won awards, and has her own website. I don't see anything about controlled demolition, she mostly seems bothered about Turkey.

You haven't shattered my view, you have only proved that when you reveal your "shocking evidence" it is usually something unsubstantiated, misrepresented, and irrelevant.

Again, how is getting CNN and Fox News coverage equivalent to being "ignored by the media"? Or is that something you just repeat even though it isn't true, because the point is mumble mumble blah blah change the subject.... its a conspiracy!
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These people are not claiming to have inside knowledge of a government plot, they are saying that not enough heads rolled for the failures on 9/11. You are completely misrepresenting them. Edmonds is all over the place, widely reported, has won awards, and has her own website. I don't see anything about controlled demolition, she mostly seems bothered about Turkey.

You haven't shattered my view, you have only proved that when you reveal your "shocking evidence" it is usually something unsubstantiated, misrepresented, and irrelevant.

Again, how is getting CNN and Fox News coverage equivalent to being "ignored by the media"? Or is that something you just repeat even though it isn't true, because the point is mumble mumble blah blah change the subject.... its a conspiracy!


i take it you still couldnt bring yourself to do a 9/11 whistleblower search?

did you watch the nist engineer admit the collapse of the towers shows no resistance ie:pancake theory is not possible.

so what your saying about witnesses is unless they know the whole plot they cannot be taken seriously? why would people step forward and incriminate themselves for taking part in a cover-up and helping it happen on the day?

the news channels have not reported very much about other 9/11 views without ridicule(a tatic you even use) a balanced view and fairness.

they report it in a way that makes sure they have put across that this is all the stuff of nutjobs then pass over to a man who gets 30 seconds to explain whilst being called nutjob all the way through.
you call that coverage?
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i take it you still couldnt bring yourself to do a 9/11 whistleblower search?
I read the links you provided, and they didn't support your claims. Sounds to me like you're the one who needs to do a google search.
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did you watch the nist engineer admit the collapse of the towers shows no resistance ie:pancake theory is not possible.
The pancake theory is not the official theory, conspiracy websites tell you that it is. Please read both sides of the story, not what one side tells you the other side is saying. You'll get conned less often that way.
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so what your saying about witnesses is unless they know the whole plot they cannot be taken seriously?
I said a whistleblower is someone with inside information, not just anyone. Are you a whistleblower?
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why would people step forward and incriminate themselves for taking part in a cover-up and helping it happen on the day?
So you are admitting there are no whistleblowers, just "I was in the basement and heard a big boom" type people. And yes, people spill the beans on all kinds of nefarious activities all the time. You cannot make the case that nobody ever reveals evil plots because history contradicts you more times than you can count.
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the news channels have not reported very much about other 9/11 views without ridicule(a tatic you even use) a balanced view and fairness.
You said ignore, now you are complaining that they aren't nice enough. Well too bad. CNN and Fox News coverage is national coverage. The problem is that despite the coverage, 911 truth is a fringe cult going nowhere.
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i take it you still couldnt bring yourself to do a 9/11 whistleblower search?
I read the links you provided, and they didn't support your claims. Sounds to me like you're the one who needs to do a google search.
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did you watch the nist engineer admit the collapse of the towers shows no resistance ie:pancake theory is not possible.
The pancake theory is not the official theory, conspiracy websites tell you that it is. Please read both sides of the story, not what one side tells you the other side is saying. You'll get conned less often that way.
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so what your saying about witnesses is unless they know the whole plot they cannot be taken seriously?
I said a whistleblower is someone with inside information, not just anyone. Are you a whistleblower?
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why would people step forward and incriminate themselves for taking part in a cover-up and helping it happen on the day?
So you are admitting there are no whistleblowers, just "I was in the basement and heard a big boom" type people. And yes, people spill the beans on all kinds of nefarious activities all the time. You cannot make the case that nobody ever reveals evil plots because history contradicts you more times than you can count.
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the news channels have not reported very much about other 9/11 views without ridicule(a tatic you even use) a balanced view and fairness.
You said ignore, now you are complaining that they aren't nice enough. Well too bad. CNN and Fox News coverage is national coverage. The problem is that despite the coverage, 911 truth is a fringe cult going nowhere.


if the pancake theory is not the offical theory maybe you would like to elaborate on what the offical theory is for the speed of the collapses?

witnesses speak out, people in top postions get suspious we are being lied to you say you looked at my links but my links were not the only ones there when i search for them, it dosnt seem to matter how many people raise doubts over the offical version you'll just keep on playing a silly game of that person cannot be trusted or dosnt know enough to play it all down. however i think i have proved no matter how credible you think they are that there are WHISTLEBLOWERS, its a wild conspiracy theory to claim there are not yet i see it being claimed above.
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if the pancake theory is not the offical theory maybe you would like to elaborate on what the offical theory is for the speed of the collapses?
You are saying you've never read the official report? You are saying you don't actually know what the official theory is?

So I was right, the official theory (in your mind) is what conspiracy websites tell you it is.

How is it that several years later you still haven't got around to actually reading the report you spend so much of your life denouncing? Is it just me or does that seem a bit odd?

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however i think i have proved no matter how credible you think they are that there are WHISTLEBLOWERS, its a wild conspiracy theory to claim there are not yet i see it being claimed above.
Yes you seem absolutely convinced they exist yet you can't actually name any, despite all the research you have done into 9/11 conspiracy theories. There are so many that you have to give me bad links and tell me to do a google search.
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if the pancake theory is not the offical theory maybe you would like to elaborate on what the offical theory is for the speed of the collapses?
You are saying you've never read the official report? You are saying you don't actually know what the official theory is?

So I was right, the official theory (in your mind) is what conspiracy websites tell you it is.

How is it that several years later you still haven't got around to actually reading the report you spend so much of your life denouncing? Is it just me or does that seem a bit odd?

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however i think i have proved no matter how credible you think they are that there are WHISTLEBLOWERS, its a wild conspiracy theory to claim there are not yet i see it being claimed above.
Yes you seem absolutely convinced they exist yet you can't actually name any, despite all the research you have done into 9/11 conspiracy theories. There are so many that you have to give me bad links and tell me to do a google search.


the nist engineer admits in the clip above that they only calculated upto the point of collpase they did not account for what was happening after that. the only other explaination as to why the whole building collapsed to ground level was a report prior to nists which says pancake theory was the reason. notice how the story changed?

if the offical version is not a lie or wrong why would they say it was a pancake theory and now your suggesting they never said any such thing.
mmm i wonder who is lieing here. no other explaination has been given for total collapse. apart from speculation(nothing that has been proven or seemily been prove). maybe you would like to point me to the explaination of the reasons for collapse to ground level you know something that goes ferther than upto the point of collapse.
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I can see I have entered the infinite loop of conspiracy theories, in which you explain why your huge list of whistleblowers has suddenly disappeared into thin air, replaced by a theory that nobody would blow the whistle, quickly moving on to complaining about the pancake theory, which you call the official theory and then one post later are complaining isn't the official theory. The same logic as "ignored by the media" means broadcast on CNN, but not with a friendly enough interview.

Just remember, I don't really care whether you'll admit your theories are half baked. You're the one that needs to convince people, not me.
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You're the one that needs to convince people, not me.

And the list of convinced people is ever expanding and growing at an accelerating rate. Pretty soon it is people like you who will be in the minority with your half-baked official conspiracy theory about 19 Arab Hijackers and the coincidental stand-down of the entire North American defence system to facilitate the attack. That and the suspension of the laws of physics on September 11th 2001.
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well there was a poll suggesting 2/3 americans believed they were being lied to about 9/11, no i dont remeber of hand where from and i dont have a link but i suggest hes already in a minority of those who believe there was nothing strange about 9/11.
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well there was a poll suggesting 2/3 americans believed they were being lied to about 9/11, no i dont remeber of hand where from and i dont have a link but i suggest hes already in a minority of those who believe there was nothing strange about 9/11.
You write the poll vaguely enough, and you'll get people to say they don't think the government told the whole story about 911, which is a far cry from believing Mossad agents snuck into WTC7 and planted hundreds of explosives based on secret thermate forumula. I don't believe the government told the whole story about 9.11. If you polled people and asked "Do you trust the government", what % would say yes? I wouldn't.

And if you have such a large majority, where is everyone? Why can't you elect anyone? Raise funds? Hire an engineer to do ACTUAL RESEARCH rather than passing around google video clips?

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And the list of convinced people is ever expanding and growing at an accelerating rate.
Please provide statistics showing the 9.11 conspiracy movement is expanding at an accelerating rate (just kidding, I know you made that up from thin air, which is a handy skill to have if you're a conspiracy theorist). Reminds me of a Simpsons episode where a Disco record lable executive showed disco single sales rising all though the 1970s. He explained how "If these trends continue..."
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the coincidental stand-down of the entire North American defence system
Jets are scrambled during a stand down? I thought stand down means standing down.
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That and the suspension of the laws of physics on September 11th 2001.
I think the only thing that got suspended in the physics world was Steve "madness" Jones.
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well there was a poll suggesting 2/3 americans believed they were being lied to about 9/11, no i dont remeber of hand where from and i dont have a link but i suggest hes already in a minority of those who believe there was nothing strange about 9/11.
You write the poll vaguely enough, and you'll get people to say they don't think the government told the whole story about 911, which is a far cry from believing Mossad agents snuck into WTC7 and planted hundreds of explosives based on secret thermate forumula. I don't believe the government told the whole story about 9.11. If you polled people and asked "Do you trust the government", what % would say yes? I wouldn't.

And if you have such a large majority, where is everyone? Why can't you elect anyone? Raise funds? Hire an engineer to do ACTUAL RESEARCH rather than passing around google video clips?

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And the list of convinced people is ever expanding and growing at an accelerating rate.
Please provide statistics showing the 9.11 conspiracy movement is expanding at an accelerating rate (just kidding, I know you made that up from thin air, which is a handy skill to have if you're a conspiracy theorist). Reminds me of a Simpsons episode where a Disco record lable executive showed disco single sales rising all though the 1970s. He explained how "If these trends continue..."
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the coincidental stand-down of the entire North American defence system
Jets are scrambled during a stand down? I thought stand down means standing down.
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That and the suspension of the laws of physics on September 11th 2001.
I think the only thing that got suspended in the physics world was Steve "madness" Jones.


which part of this post is not a pure conspiracy theory in itself? you presume then presume and presume some more and try to promote it as fact then accuse others as doing the same.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if you have such a large majority, where is everyone?

People are hosting radio shows, making movies, publishing books, creating websites, writing blogs, holding tours and organising conferences, forming groups, demonstrating... there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of risk in coming out of the 911 conspiracy closet. Yet it all adds up to nothing. This movement is a tiny fringe cult which cannot get anyone elected, cannot get any real research done, cannot convince any professional body relevant to their theories to support them anywhere in the world. You have nothing. Why? Why is the movement "ever growing" yet never getting anywhere?

Could it be that it is a lot smaller than you like to think, despite what Alex Jones tells you the polls say?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepik wrote:
And if you have such a large majority, where is everyone?

People are hosting radio shows, making movies, publishing books, creating websites, writing blogs, holding tours and organising conferences, forming groups, demonstrating... there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of risk in coming out of the 911 conspiracy closet. Yet it all adds up to nothing. This movement is a tiny fringe cult which cannot get anyone elected, cannot get any real research done, cannot convince any professional body relevant to their theories to support them anywhere in the world. You have nothing. Why? Why is the movement "ever growing" yet never getting anywhere?

Could it be that it is a lot smaller than you like to think, despite what Alex Jones tells you the polls say?


if you think its small then thats your opinon
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