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thought criminal
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| Fallious wrote: | | thought criminal wrote: | One reason why they would never have used real planes was the fact if the plane had bropken up and landed in the street.
1: If it was a 'switched plane' it would have been empty.
2: If it was a real Boeing with passengers and it had crashed open in the street there is a chance that there may have been survivors. |
At 500 miles per hour? You've got to be kidding. Face it, there is no downside to using real planes and countless problems that could (and if we believe you, HAVE) resulted in the discovery of problems.
Face it, you can't argue that NPT was the best choice, because by your own posts you have demonstrated why No Planes is a preposterous tactic which could only result in discovery.
No. The smart money is on using real planes and spreading a lie. |
You can't show me a plane that hit the North Tower. There is no pictorial evidence, so how come you are believing it?? Wtf are you talking about?? |
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Fallious
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| Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Deftly dodged that. A bit of a catch 22 there for you, isn’t it? NPT is the ultimate psy op, but oh wait it's resulted in all this evidence we tout.
It's also my opinion, as someone who works with 3D animation, compositing and encoding on a daily basis that the movies of planes impacting the towers (including the nose-out footage, unfortunately) have not been tinkered with.
So I hate to ruin your one man party but the visual evidence stands, in addition with the vast majority of witness testimony and forensic evidence, firmly against NPT (Sorry).
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thought criminal
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| Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Fallious wrote: | Deftly dodged that. A bit of a catch 22 there for you, isn’t it? NPT is the ultimate psy op, but oh wait it's resulted in all this evidence we tout.
It's also my opinion, as someone who works with 3D animation, compositing and encoding on a daily basis that the movies of planes impacting the towers (including the nose-out footage, unfortunately) have not been tinkered with.
So I hate to ruin your one man party but the visual evidence stands, in addition with the vast majority of witness testimony and forensic evidence, firmly against NPT (Sorry). |
How does that change my story? I have noticed you change your mind like the English weather.
Which firm do you work for? Why do you continue to lie your ass off?? Tell me the name of the firm you work for and where it is based. Give me reason to believe you are a legit 'truther'. Can you do that?? |
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Fallious
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| Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I make no secret of my identity and location to people who I trust. The fact that you have to ask these questions (twice, in two different threads) only highlights your distinct (and growing) lack of credibility.
Now can a moderator deal with this goof ball (removing my posts too if you see fit), he's clearly on a mission to side track this thread. I feel a little dirty to be part of it.
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thought criminal
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| Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Fallious wrote: | I make no secret of my identity and location to people who I trust. The fact that you have to ask these questions (twice, in two different threads) only highlights your distinct (and growing) lack of credibility.
Now can a moderator deal with this goof ball (removing my posts too if you see fit), he's clearly on a mission to side track this thread. I feel a little dirty to be part of it. |
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marky 54
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| Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| thought criminal wrote: | | Fallious wrote: | | thought criminal wrote: | One reason why they would never have used real planes was the fact if the plane had bropken up and landed in the street.
1: If it was a 'switched plane' it would have been empty.
2: If it was a real Boeing with passengers and it had crashed open in the street there is a chance that there may have been survivors. |
At 500 miles per hour? You've got to be kidding. Face it, there is no downside to using real planes and countless problems that could (and if we believe you, HAVE) resulted in the discovery of problems.
Face it, you can't argue that NPT was the best choice, because by your own posts you have demonstrated why No Planes is a preposterous tactic which could only result in discovery.
No. The smart money is on using real planes and spreading a lie. |
You can't show me a plane that hit the North Tower. There is no pictorial evidence, so how come you are believing it?? Wtf are you talking about?? |
the plane hole. |
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THETRUTHWILLSETU3
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Why did no amateur videographer record the audio of either jet striking the World Trade Center? |
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marky 54
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote: | | Why did no amateur videographer record the audio of either jet striking the World Trade Center? |
that would depend on if you take ALL youtube vids as fact. make sure your volume is on this listen to this clip. i hear planes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcaiM7D33lE
also take note of the man in the red top who says he clearly saw a plane. |
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marky 54
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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could the whole basis behind NPT be that certain people have their volume set to 0?
hence no plane noise and no witnesses saying they saw a plane with their own two eyes. |
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THETRUTHWILLSETU3
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| marky 54 wrote: | | THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote: | | Why did no amateur videographer record the audio of either jet striking the World Trade Center? |
that would depend on if you take ALL youtube vids as fact. make sure your volume is on this listen to this clip. i hear planes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcaiM7D33lE
also take note of the man in the red top who says he clearly saw a plane. |
Marky ---- do you know what the word AMATEUR means? |
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marky 54
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | | THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote: | | Why did no amateur videographer record the audio of either jet striking the World Trade Center? |
that would depend on if you take ALL youtube vids as fact. make sure your volume is on this listen to this clip. i hear planes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcaiM7D33lE
also take note of the man in the red top who says he clearly saw a plane. |
Marky ---- do you know what the word AMATEUR means? |
naudet brothers clip is the only clips of the first plane near enough to hear the first plane. the second clip of the second plane was from amauter footage. regardless planes can be heard in both, why does it matter if they are amatuer and why are you denying the clips in this footage prove anything? |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Did the firemen being filmed when the first plane went over make no statements about what they saw? You see one fireman on the film look straight up and seemingly look right at it.
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THETRUTHWILLSETU3
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| marky 54 wrote: | | THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | | THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote: | | Why did no amateur videographer record the audio of either jet striking the World Trade Center? |
that would depend on if you take ALL youtube vids as fact. make sure your volume is on this listen to this clip. i hear planes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcaiM7D33lE
also take note of the man in the red top who says he clearly saw a plane. |
Marky ---- do you know what the word AMATEUR means? |
naudet brothers clip is the only clips of the first plane near enough to hear the first plane. the second clip of the second plane was from amauter footage. regardless planes can be heard in both, why does it matter if they are amatuer and why are you denying the clips in this footage prove anything? |
So where is the second clip of the second plane that is Amateur footage, please post the link. |
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marky 54
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ok i believe it was taken by an amatuer and then shown on the news, but i get your point and i will see if i can find the second plane impact with noise from a amatuer. |
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marky 54
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1rsfXeyH2Y
2nd impact with sound not from a news clips.
bit strange this second clip, can anyone make out what the people behind the camera are saying? sounds like two or three people speaking a differant launage. |
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THETRUTHWILLSETU3
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| marky 54 wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1rsfXeyH2Y
2nd impact with sound not from a news clips.
bit strange this second clip, can anyone make out what the people behind the camera are saying? sounds like two or three people speaking a differant launage. |
Apparantly the language is German.
Can you prove this is original footage taken by an Amateur? |
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THETRUTHWILLSETU3
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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New evidence below
the domain name for flight93crash.com was set up just 6 days after 911 and has been traced back to a government department.
It would appear that the main purpose of this site is to make people believe flight 93 was shot down (did it exist at all)
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/02/is-flight93crashcom-spook-site.ht ml |
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marky 54
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1rsfXeyH2Y
2nd impact with sound not from a news clips.
bit strange this second clip, can anyone make out what the people behind the camera are saying? sounds like two or three people speaking a differant launage. |
Apparantly the language is German.
Can you prove this is original footage taken by an Amateur? |
there is no way of proving any youtube video is geniune, you ask for clips of plane noises so i provided them its your choice if you accept them. |
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MadgeB
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| Well you would think that if the perps were going to fly a real plane into WTC2, knowing that all those cameras were there already after the attack on WTC1, they would have set up a live shot of it to broadcast around the world. I wonder why they missed that opportunity, and only showed live the 2nd plane disappearing behind WTC1 and then the explosion? |
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